DH's Doc Sez Panic Attack... I'm Not Convinced & Neither Is He But These Symptoms Are WEIRD

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gcvmom
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   Posted 3/16/2007 12:11 AM (GMT -6)   
DH's GP thinks he might be suffering from panic attacks.  I'd like to know what the collective wisdom here thinks.  It's a bit of a mini-novel, so if you've got the time, thanks in advance for hearing me out.
 
Here's a bit of history: 
 
DH dx'd ADHD in 2001.  Takes Adderall XR for two years -- great improvement of symptoms, yahoo, life is good again.  Suddenly, husband starts having "dizzy spells" that are accompanied by nausea, a feeling that he's going to lose his bowels, and breaking out in a cold sweat.  These come and go, with no apparent pattern for several months, and finally after my urging he goes to see the GP.  They tell him it's allergy related, rx Flonase and send him on his merry way.
 
The episodes subside for a while with the Flonase, but not completely.  Then one day while driving to work, he gets that funny feeling again and wakes up on the other side of the boulevard with his bumper entangled in a chain link fence.  PTL he is not injured and neither is anyone else for that matter.  The angels were definitely watching over him that day.  He waits to tell me about the little mishap until 9pm that NIGHT!!!  I call the GP the next morning, he says to take him to the ER.  So we go.  He gets the once over, everything looks o.k. (labs, bp, EKG, etc.) and is referred to a neuro with instructions for no driving until cleared by that doc.  Temporarily loses license to drive (nightmare in and of itself).
 
Neuro sends him for brain MRI and EEG.  All normal.  Refers him to cardio.
 
Cardio does EKG, 24-hr Holter monitor, treadmill stress test.  All normal.  Refers him to cardio-electrophysiologist.
 
Cardio specialist  does tilt-table test.  He FAILS faster than anyone they've ever seen.  Doc asks about meds he's on.  Tells him about the Adderall XR and he has to quit the med for a few days, then return for another tilt-table test.  This time he passes the test.  The chalk it up to the medication, tell him to discontinue it, clear him to drive, life goes back to the chaos it was before meds and he's happy.
 
So that was 2004.  In 2005, he has another big episode in the airport while on our way to Hawaii with our 3 kids.  He's tense, uptight and stressed -- snapping at the kids, confused about where to go with the luggage, nervous about going through the whole security screening circus.  He starts to feel dizzy and nauseous and actually has to lie down on the floor next to the security line (neuro told him he'd better do that unless he wants to faceplant on the floor).  You can imagine the attention that got us!  Security was very helpful, but what a scene it caused!
 
Jump to late 2006 and he's still been having these dizzy spells, only more frequently now.  Hmmm, can't really blame the Adderall XR now, can we?  He isn't real good about taking the Flonase but religiously takes Claritin for nasal allergies.  I drag him to the GP to rehash the symptoms and get another crack at the problem, this time I sit in on the appointment to make sure he doesn't forget to tell him anything.
 
We find out that the spells happen several times a week, and in a variety of settings:  (not in his car, yet, thank G*d!), sitting at his desk reading a magazine, playing basketball, walking across a room, in meetings, working outside in the yard.  No pattern.
 
Now I CAN tell you that DH is one who tends to ruminate over things.  A LOT.  His old pdoc once remarked that when DH comes in the room sometimes he looks like he's ready to explode -- you can just see how tight he's wound from his expression and body language.  So I do think he has anxiety issues.  When he went off the Adderall XR, the pdoc wanted to prescribe Pamelor -- I actually filled it, but DH was so paranoid about taking ANYTHING that might cause him to lose his license again, he refused it.
 
The GP wanted to rx another med (I think it was an SSRI, but my brain's a bit foggy right now) but DH felt it was allergy related, like the GP had told him way back when.  GP agreed to just rx Allegra-D, with the understanding that DH would come back if the spells kept happening.  Which they are.  He had one tonight while I was sitting talking with him.  He didn't get dizzy this time, but nauseous, pale, cold sweat, passed a lot of gas (feeling of bowels moving, I guess).  And he's been taking the Allegra-D twice a day as instructed.
 
So what is going on here? 
 
Thanks for your patient reading, and for any thoughts you have on our little mystery.
gcvmom
12yo son w/Crohn's, dx'd 5/06, currently in remission; also ADHD and mild asthma
Imuran 50mg/75mg am/pm; Daytrana patch; Fisol, Viactive chews, children's multi
Resection planned in 6/07 to remove fibrotic stricture in TI
 
10yo son ADHD & ?, Daytrana patch 30mg, Abilify 20mg


harry4
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   Posted 3/16/2007 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   

I dont know whats happening but you can get panic attacks from allergies but I think he would have figured out by now what he was allergic to but an elimination diet could be tried

some people are very tense and anxious, due to fearing their next panic attack, they stay tensed up in order to fight back against it

if they are panic attacks, a large dose of valium the tablet disolved under the tongue will help a lot, also an antidepressant, if one can be found that has bearable side effects and works for him will help a lot

but basicly the best and most reliabkle panic attack med is valium or similar

its almost unheard of to crash the car from a painic attack, this suggests its something else, although some panic attacks cause severe depersonalisation and derealisation which may contribute. read up about these on the net and see if it sounds familiar to him, can cause a trance like state

try a doc who specialises in allergies

its a good idea to take a list of problems and history to doc and give him a copy


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debaser
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   Posted 3/16/2007 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with just about everything Harry said, only I have come very close to losing consciousness recently, in part because of panic (other factors were at work, too). If I had been driving I would have crashed, no doubt. So it could be that, or it could be other things.

I definitely agree that he should go to an allergy clinic. They eliminate guesswork at these places. When I was a little kid I went to one and they shot me up with everything under the sun until they found what I was allergic to.

And I also think it's a good idea to take the list to the doctor. In fact, what you wrote in that post would be fine. It gives a good sense about the timing of everything, and you can fill in any blanks by talking to the doctor.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 3/16/2007 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Totally agree with Harry and Deb here Please get him to an allergist asap with ALL that has and is going on
He has been ( and you) thru Hades and back and it is time SOMEONE took the proper time and did total tests on him not letting him fall thru the cracks anymore you went before so I would suggest you go again and fill in any blank spots
TOO much flonase is not a good thing either.........
PLease let us know what is going on okay
Thought and prayers are with you and Hubby
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gcvmom
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   Posted 3/16/2007 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks to all for your comments. He emailed me today to let me know it happened again at 3:30am and 7am today. Then again twice at work this morning. He was not standing up or exercising, just sitting or lying prone.

And he's still taking Allegra-D twice a day (hasn't done the Flonase in a while).

Since we've done the GP route, maybe I'll just phone up the allergist and book him for next week...
gcvmom
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Imuran 50mg/75mg am/pm; Daytrana patch; Fisol, Viactive chews, children's multi
Resection planned in 6/07 to remove fibrotic stricture in TI
 
10yo son ADHD & ?, Daytrana patch 30mg, Abilify 20mg


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   Posted 3/16/2007 5:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like a great idea this has to be really scary for both and could be dangerous not trying to scare you more hun but this has to be taken care of
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gcvmom
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   Posted 3/16/2007 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   
GP gave him a referral to an ENT doc. But also wants me to come in to discuss the reasons why I and pdoc beleive there are anxiety, mood, and impulse control issues with DH -- said he could see from my demeanor when I was at DH's appointment that there was more to the story than DH was telling -- the guy's more perceptive than I gave him credit for!

Hoping it's as simple as an inner ear problem... but it would also be great if we get some resolution to his psych issues along the way!
gcvmom
12yo son w/Crohn's, dx'd 5/06, currently in remission; also ADHD and mild asthma
Imuran 50mg/75mg am/pm; Daytrana patch; Fisol, Viactive chews, children's multi
Resection planned in 6/07 to remove fibrotic stricture in TI
 
10yo son ADHD & ?, Daytrana patch 30mg, Abilify 20mg


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   Posted 3/17/2007 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   

It may be a lasting effect from the Adderall...My son was on it for about a year, then I took him off all medications...He was having dizzy spells as well, feelings of throwing up, nausea all that jazz...He has been off that med for a long time, about 7 years...he still from time to time has these symptoms...

I saw a few years back on 20/20 that Adderall causes strange symptoms, including hearing voices....My son has even experienced this and from time to time still does...All these symptoms seem to be very very very slowly disappearing...I don't know what Adderall changes in the brain, but I believe it is a medicine that they need to pull and do more long term studies on...

If it's the meds, even though he is off them, next in line will be his self esteem...Watch to see if his self esteem begins to fall or change...

 

 


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   Posted 3/17/2007 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your input SS I am sure now the ball is rolling and seems like the Doc knows whats up SOMETHING will be done for him and thus you
Wishing you all the best
Let us know as soon as you find out anything this has to be hard on both of you's
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gcvmom
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   Posted 3/17/2007 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Shortstop,

The Adderall connection is very interesting. I've never had anyone report that to me, but I'm curious if others out there have had similar experience. I went back to my records from when the spells started and I noted that he'd been on the Adderall 14mos prior to the symptoms starting. It's also interesting that his job stress had increased significantly just two months prior to the symptoms beginning (big promotion, more responsibilities, etc.). That's part of the reason I thought it might be anxiety-related.

Hopefully we'll get more answers in the coming weeks.

Thanks again!

PS  His self-esteem has always been shaky.  He's a very insecure person, despite the outward appearances.


gcvmom
12yo son w/Crohn's, dx'd 5/06, currently in remission; also ADHD and mild asthma
Imuran 50mg/75mg am/pm; Daytrana patch; Fisol, Viactive chews, children's multi
Resection planned in 6/07 to remove fibrotic stricture in TI
 
10yo son ADHD & ?, Daytrana patch 30mg, Abilify 20mg

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