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debaser
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   Posted 3/17/2007 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I've probably asked this a hundred times, but is it possible for nausea and bloating to be the only symptom present at the onset of a panic attack???

I AM SICK OF THIS.

A very close friend of mine is in town for the weekend and I still haven't even seen him. I miss that guy, man. We went to college together and I've known him for about 10 years. Sort of like a brother.

But I just feel like crap. It's not fair for me to go out and just be a drag, you know?

I've got this sore throat, too. I think it's just post nasal drip as I forgot to turn on my heat last night and it got pretty cold, but of course it could be the FLU. Oh, no...NOT THE FLU!!!! Seriously, I've had very little human contact during the past week. I don't even know how I would've gotten exposed to influenza but I'm still scared to death of it.

It's ridiculous. I hate to be negative but I'm pretty down right now. There's just so much uncertainty about my stomach.

I know anxiety is a big part of the problem, but I don't know for sure whether it's what is causing me to get sick to my stomach. I always feel it first, and then panic attack symptoms. I don't know whether the stomach is part of the panic attack or is the trigger for it. They've found no other explanation for it, but have they really performed all the tests? I know I've had a lot, but there are some they never ran. I'm not a doctor...I don't know whether I need to have them or not. Maybe if I took my medication I'd know something...but oh God it might make me puke so, no, I can't do that.

I'm tired of not knowing anything for sure. I'm tired of feeling the way I do. Tired of everything. This week I thought if I just went onto forums and tried to help people, I'd feel better. I don't.

Bah. I suppose it'll get better someday.

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   Posted 3/17/2007 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Debaser,

I'm sorry you have had such a bad time.
I get the same problem as you and nausea is a BIG problem with me when I am anxious. Most of the time, I get the nausea first and it is truly horrible. I try ginger tablets for this which sometimes work. Also breathing exercises and relaxation helps me. If I worry and get stressed about it, it just gets worse. I had a look on the internet for some information on anxiety related nausea and found some sites for you, I hope they help you a little.

Take care

http://www.livingwithanxiety.com/anxiety-physical-symptoms.htm

http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/anxietymoreinfo/a/nauseaanxiety.htm

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debaser
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   Posted 3/17/2007 2:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks. Do you think it's anxiety that's causing your stomach problem, though? Or is the stomach problem causing the anxiety?

It seems counterintuitive to me that the stomach would be the first thing to present with symptoms during a panic attack. Maybe it's not the first thing and I'm just not noticing whatever's coming before. I don't know. It's easy to see where anxiety can cause nausea and vice-versa. But what if you don't feel anxious and then you're suddenly sick? Could anxiety cause that? I find no definitive answers.

Either way, I need to treat the anxiety. Hopefully the nausea will go away then, and if it doesn't, maybe it'll be a little easier to tolerate.

I just went to air up the tires on my car and also to the drugstore to pick up some dramamine and cough drops. I feel better now. Getting out for a few minutes helped a good deal. I was dizzy and anxious while out, but after coming home I'm finding it easier to relax. It's a gorgeous day here in Texas. Wish I could enjoy more of it.

Junebug05
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   Posted 3/17/2007 7:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Debaser,
 
I know that you have replied to my topics on this same subject, so now it's my turn... :-)    I have a similar situation as yours.  Sometimes my stomach gets bloated and I get nauseous then start to feel panicky, other times it's the opposite with anxiety/panic starting and then the stomach problems.  Since I posted about this the last time, I've been trying to just accept that it is just anxiety and not let myself get worked up over it...for the most part, my stomach has been better, a couple of days when I let it bother me and it got much worse.  With the symptoms I have, bloating, slight nausea and sometimes the feeling like my stomach is in a vise, and nothing else, I'm starting to worry a little (stress little) less.  I figure if it was something serious that it would have gotten worse by now or I'd have other symptoms showing up, and it wouldn't come and go the way it does.  Mine will be gone for weeks and then when something stressful happens, it's back.  This has been going on for over 6 months now, so if something were really wrong, I think I'd know by now.  I've been told that the stomach is very sensitive to stress, so it makes sense that it would respond to our getting anxious. 
 
I understand your frustration over this, I'm right there with you...there are days that these stomach issues drive me crazy.  Even though I can, at times, be very rational about it, it can still cause me major anxiety.  Hang in there, and I really hope you'll feel better very soon!

debaser
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   Posted 3/17/2007 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   
My stomach has gotten so bad that it seldom goes away for a day, much less a few weeks. Most often it's hitting me every few hours. Except for a couple of bright spots today, I've been absolutely miserable pretty much the entire day. To varying degrees this has been going on for over two years.

These days, knowing that it is probably panic usually helps me to keep it from getting really, really super bad, but it seems like there's nothing I can do to stop it or get it under control. I'm nowhere near comfortable. I can't eat, I can't not eat. Can't sleep. I have a stupid fear of taking medication. I've even stopped my Prevacid so my acid reflux is acting up, too. Although I will say that I think stopping the Prevacid has helped in some ways (I'll get into that later).

I know that whatever it is won't kill me, but after a few solid weeks of misery that doesn't exactly help.

I have a headache right now that could probably kill a small mammal. I think it's the Claritin I took for this sore throat/drainage. I should've taken a different sinus type pill or maybe nothing at all.

I do have some positive news, however:

After looking for what seems like forever, tonight I have finally found someone on the internet who used to have the exact same symptoms I do. In the same order, too. He was diagnosed with panic/anxiety and Klonopin was the drug that helped him. He's doing much better these days.

So there's finally hope. I'm still not taking the Klonopin tonight, because there's that .025 percent chance I could have an adverse reaction. I don't want that going on in the middle of the night. Tomorrow I WILL take it. Nothing's going to stop me. Maybe it's the answer. I don't like to ask, but please pray for me because I've gone about as far as I can go with this.

Junebug05
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   Posted 3/18/2007 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   

Debaser,

I will absolutely pray for you, don't hesitate to ask for that!!!!!  I do hope that you will find the courage to take your klonopin today, I have an extreme fear of medications too, which is why I have never taken anything for my stomach problems, it actually took me many years to start taking a simple tylenol for headaches, so I understand that fear! 

When my stomach problems started, I didn't get any relief either, it was a constant in my life with some days being absolutely dreadful and others just bothersome.  It's only been in the last couple of months that I've had some days without any problems, like I said in my other post, once I decided to accept that it's anxiety causing it, it started to go away at times.  So, hang in there and try to accept that it's just anxiety messing with you.  You are obsessed with your stomach right now, which I think makes it so in the front of your mind all the time that the tiniest thought makes it go crazy.  I was at that point recently and just had to let it go. 

I pray that you will feel better, and that you'll get that klonopin down and that it will help you!  Let me know how you do today!


debaser
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   Posted 3/18/2007 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
You're totally right that I'm obsessed.

The thing is, right after the docs told me it was panic it took a week or so to sink in. I needed time to believe it. Then I DID start feeling a bit better. Quite a bit better, actually. And now this.

Me and medicine...it's kind of a weird story. I used to never have trouble taking drugs. Pills were never my thing in that I never really relied on them a whole lot. I wouldn't hesitate to take ibuprofren or antibiotics or whatever, though. It never scared me. In eighth grade I had this cough syrup with codeine in it, and I took a huge swig to see if it would be any fun. It wasn't. I was sicker that day than I'd ever been in my life. Still, it did not cause a "medicine phobia".

These days I don't LIKE to take over the counter pills at all. I will, though, if I feel like I have to. Advil,,most OTC sinus/cold pills...I may not like it but I'm not scared of them. But prescriptions...well, that's a different story. I'm absolutely terrified of them. I've been prescribed at least two bottles of medicine that I filled with the intention to take them, but never did. After surgery I refused to take my pain medicines, and my stomach was so messed up then I wouldn't even dare to take advil. I just suffered.

I'm paranoid about almost everything. I mentioned the sore throat I woke up with yesterday. It's better today and is pretty much only a dry throat. Logically, I know it's allergies. On this morning's newscast the anchor even mentioned her allergies were acting up. I'm paranoid about flu, though. I've been taking my temperature constantly, looking for fever. At one point I did have a fever of .1 degrees farenheit, and boy, did that freak me out! But it went away. My throat's dry and I smoke, so naturally I'll cough a little now and then. Everytime I do I'm afraid I'll throw up. My sinuses are clear but very achy for some reason. Two advil would probably work wonders, but I won't take them as panicked as I have been.

I'm just sick of paying so much attention to my body. I legitimately don't feel well, and I can't get it off my mind. I've had two VERY intense panic attacks today: one at the convenience store and one here at home. Three times I've come very close to taking the Klonopin but haven't been able to make that final step.

Thanks so much for your thoughts. I don't know why I'm having such a hard time, but I sure am.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 3/18/2007 11:32 AM (GMT -7)   
IMO you are way over analysing and obsessing about your health you need to stop checking the temp we all have low grade temps at least once a day ..........
I was like you and I had to stop before the stress of constantly thinking i had everything finally did kill me
The tummy I get too but I have crons so I chalk it up to that irriable Bowel can cause some of your problems but I think you said already been tested for that ..............
I honestly would try not to obsess over all this to mch at all and try thinking along otheer lines or something else you can do .....
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PainNdaGut
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   Posted 3/18/2007 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
debaser, I know what you mean about taking meds. I have a lot going on medically so I have no choice, but I just recently got my klonopin filled and looked at it for a week. I finally got up the nerve to take it. It is .05mg. So first I cut it in half. Took it, had a bit of panic for about an hour, watching to make sure no side effects. This is my 4th day, I have noticed a difference in several areas...no more nausea, not having the panic attacks like i was, and I am sleeping better. A whole 8 hrs sleep!! I can't remember the last time I had that much sleep in 3 consecutive days! As far as the stomach problems, I have crohns so I can only take tylnol(sp) Advil and any ibuprofin will cause a lot of problems for me. I smoke & have the dry mouth myself....make sure you drink lots of water. I keep a full 32 oz glass next to the bed so if i wake up-i can take a big swig. The sinus ache could be from them drying out to much causing headache and pain. I have allergies too. I can relate to having meds filled & never taking - I have several that I just cant seem to be ok with taking. Mostly pain meds. Anyhow, don't be afraid of the klonopin...just cut into half or a 1/4 to start. then you can work up to a normal dose. just my thoughts anyway.
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   Posted 3/18/2007 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Glad to here that Paininthegut
It does help to share so thanks for sharing that with us
I am really pleased it has helped or is helping you as well I take alot of meds for Crohns and other stuff to so I hear ya ...be well
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debaser
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   Posted 3/18/2007 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, thanks for sharing that. Anytime I hear a story about someone with a sensitive stomach who's taken it and got BETTER, I get closer and closer to taking it myself. I'll probably do so this afternoon. That was a very good story, and I'm really glad you found something that helps you.

I do suffer with allergies quite a bit and always have. I don't worry about them much unless they get really bad. My anxiety's weird like that. Allergies are enough to make a person feel horrible, yet I don't obsess on them. If ANYTHING odd happens with my stomach, I start freaking out.

Lyn,

I know I've been obsessing a lot. It stinks. I think I do have a fever today, though, because I feel "feverish" and that's not normally an anxiety symptom for me (in spite of the constant temp taking). You're an RN, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the body's temp typically lower in the morning and gets warmer throughout the day?. I was essentially normal when I woke up, which I assume to mean fever. I tried not to think about it in that way, but I thought it necessary to take the temperature to see if it ever shot up rapidly, which is a sign of influenza. It hasn't really done that and it's been 24 hours since I started feeling bad, so I think I'm in the clear now. I do believe a slight fever is normal during a bad allergy day...but I'm NOT looking that up on the internet to see. I'm just interested in the flu b/c I don't want to start a micro-epidemic in my office tomorrow.

See? I can rationalize anything! haha. Seriously, though, for some reason when I'm in a panic attack taking my temp calms me. I realize it's not ideal, but there's something about standing or sitting there perfectly still and concentrating to keep it under the tongue. It's just an easy task or whatever. I should find something else, I know. I actually got a lot better about it for a while. I guess the good thing about it, if there is one, is that I know what my body temp normally is...usually it in the high 97's or low 98's. Today I've been in the high 98's and low 99's all day...which is definitely a little high but nothing that even I'd worry much about.

I'm basically writing just to pass time. I'm not nearly as obsessed with it as I probably seem.

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   Posted 3/18/2007 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   
debaser said...
Thanks. Do you think it's anxiety that's causing your stomach problem, though? Or is the stomach problem causing the anxiety?

It seems counterintuitive to me that the stomach would be the first thing to present with symptoms during a panic attack. Maybe it's not the first thing and I'm just not noticing whatever's coming before. I don't know. It's easy to see where anxiety can cause nausea and vice-versa. But what if you don't feel anxious and then you're suddenly sick? Could anxiety cause that? I find no definitive answers.

Either way, I need to treat the anxiety. Hopefully the nausea will go away then, and if it doesn't, maybe it'll be a little easier to tolerate.

I just went to air up the tires on my car and also to the drugstore to pick up some dramamine and cough drops. I feel better now. Getting out for a few minutes helped a good deal. I was dizzy and anxious while out, but after coming home I'm finding it easier to relax. It's a gorgeous day here in Texas. Wish I could enjoy more of it.
I don't know which causes which really - it just happens.  I think the nausea is from the anxiety if I think about it but I really do try not to overthink it.  If I do, it just makes it worse!!

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debaser
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   Posted 3/18/2007 1:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I finally took the Klonopin. I'm a total basketcase, but I guess that'll pass. It was only a few minutes ago.

debaser
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   Posted 3/18/2007 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Update:

I took the pill 3.5 hours ago and still don't feel anything. Well, I'm a little nauseated and I don't feel calm at all.

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   Posted 3/19/2007 1:46 PM (GMT -7)   
i have a feeling you're just still worked up about taking the pill. why not try some positive thinking about it? remind yourself how it has helped so many people, that it can help you too and you just have to let it. its not like its a narcotic med - you're not going to all of the sudden just feel an effect, its purpose is just to take the edge off. what was your recommended dose? my doctor prescribed it to me to take anywhere from .25 to 1 mg. if one pill doesn't help you, try a pill and a half. give it a chance :)
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debaser
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   Posted 3/19/2007 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, I was trying to think positively. I was just surprised I didn't feel calmer. Maybe I didn't take enough. Recommended dose was .5 mg. The nausea could've been post-nasal drip related. Sinuses/allergies were kicking my butt all weekend. Some of the nervousness could've been from that, too.

I've moved the Klonopin discussion to the "meds thread" because I thought it would fit better there. I'm trying to edit posts instead of making new ones so as not to monopolize it.
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