for those having 'out of the blue' panic attacks

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harry4
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   Posted 5/29/2007 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
for those who are having panic attacks, it helps a lot to always carry a few valium type tablets with you when out, some keep them in a small container, panic attacks are of course unpredictable and fear of the next one can be quite disabling and limit your activities
 
if a panic attack starts, place 1 under the tongue and let it disolve there, this is called sublingually, and is the fastest way to get the med into your system, much faster than swallowing it
type    'sublingually'  into a search engine and read up all about it
sadly some docs and psychs never think to mention this to panic attack sufferers. klonapin wafers are actually designed for this, they say to disolve on the tongue, I prefer under the tongue, these arent available everywhere
 
this treatment works like magic, these meds are first choice when someone with a panic attack is taken to hospital, (sometimes by ambulance if its the first one)
a very severe panic attack is treated with an injection of valium
 
if a difficult event is being faced, you can take an insurance dose by swallowing a benzo earlier, but a second sublingual dose will help much more if a panic attack strikes
 
you can say its for a migrane, or mutter something about an allergy if anyone asks


recovered former longtime anxiety and panic attack sufferer and helper of other sufferers  but no training or  qualifications in medicine or psychology, any remarks that may be taken as advice must be confirmed with doctor or other health professional
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resting
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   Posted 5/29/2007 3:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I carry Lorazepam with me at all times just in case. It really does come in handy with things go wrong.

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stkitt
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   Posted 5/29/2007 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Harry 4

This is Kitt  and I find no evidence that a sublingual Valium is on the market. I would not want members deviating from the directions on their medications as this could be dangerous to the member.

I did find the Klonopin wafers and would suggest to members to ask their physician for an RX for this drug if they would like to try it SL.
 
I thank you in advance for your understanding of my concerns.  yeah   



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Kitt
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Post Edited (stkitt) : 5/29/2007 7:41:53 PM (GMT-6)


stkitt
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   Posted 5/29/2007 8:50 PM (GMT -7)   

Dear Mystruggles,

Thank you for your input. I value everyones opinion and it is good to know what others are doing. 

As I took 4mg of Ativan I know the benzos well...................Now I am weaning off of the Ativan using Valium....................4mg of Ativan = 40 mg of Valium.  I took the 4 mg  for sleep otherwise I had severe anxiety and would be awake and crying at 0200.  Now the physician wants me off them.  I am down to 10 mg Valium and I try not to worry what happens when they are gone.

I am walking in your footsteps. I appreciate your info.

Keep on posting.  yeah


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Kitt
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 5/30/2007 9:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I have to give some input here
THERE are benzo's specifically for " sublingual " use such as ativan and wafers
I do take me valium that are not sublingual at times when really needed and let it melt in mouth
BUTY there not RX nor made as sublingual pills
Yes they do work faster I totally agree however still not as fast as the Actual "sublingual " meds ....IMHO

I am also on 4 mgs of ativan daily if needed for the pg and to keep blood and stree from going sky high as it makes sores worse as I have posted many times

I have spoken with my doc and he is aware that "sometimes" I will let valium melt under tongue .......

My ativan are sublingual and work like Nitro does for Heart problems fast and right to the problem.......

Meds have to or should be taken as RX .....
If you are letting them mely under you r tongue than pleaase do tell doc he will no doubt change you toa sublingual form of med IF it is made that way .......

I have been on ativan since they first came out were supposed to take the palce of Valium and were tooted back then as "NON addictive and non Habit forming>>..
YOu can bet they do help me but I am learnng great coping skills to go along with meds in my case

I know this post was directed to Kitt but I wanted to add my input as well

Stay strong MS an be well

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stkitt
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   Posted 5/30/2007 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi MS,

I know what you are saying in your question and I have shed some tears over this weaning.  I have taken a benzo for 25 years as prescribed by my physician. I also have a hand tremor that gets worse with anxiety.

When I had my major meltdown in 2005 they started me on the Ativan.  Then sent me off to Psychiatric MD. She made the decision that I needed to get off the benzos as they were not good for me LOL..........after 25 years they now figure out there not good for me..........ouch. She felt they were a depressant and could be aggravating my depression. She stated  benzodiazepines are only recommended for short-term use. I guess 25 years was considered short term tongue

My hubby is not happy about this as he to felt if I had been on a benzo for so long to wean it now was going to be very rough on me. As you know the Dr. writes your Rx and if they won't let you have them................well I will try my best to beat the benzos.

You may always ask me questions and I will try to answer honestly and with an open mind and heart.

Thank you.


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Kitt
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Dx: Anxiety/Panic, Depression 
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"If you doubt you can accomplish something, then you can’t accomplish it. You have to have confidence in your ability, and then be tough enough to follow through.” 
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