Substituting Bendadryl for Klono?

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SarahP
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   Posted 8/29/2007 8:43 AM (GMT -6)   
I usually take Klonopin .5mg at night to help me sleep. It's mainly for the muscle twitches from fibro, but it also stops that horrible "jerk" that I get sometimes when drifting off. The doc said that's the anxiety, the *loss of control* while going to sleep, so my brain gives my body a "kick" and I jerk awake. Really, really annoying. I've tried speaking to my brain, but it just won't stop doing it..LOL.
 
Anyway, as usual, I have run out of the Klono. My copays for doc visits have gotten astronomical lately, and I just have not had it. So... my pharmacist told me once that he suggested Benadryl over the script for Ambien that I had at the time.. so I figured it would help me out last night, since I was out of Klono. I take such a low dosage that I don't ever seem to get withdrawal when I run out.
 
It worked.. knocked me for a loop after it kicked in and I had real trouble keeping eyes open on the show I was watching. As I was falling asleep, I would have this cold numbness start at my head and flash through my body. Not quite a "jerk" thing, but disconcerting. I figured it was just the anxiety manifesting itself differently and breaking through the "Benadryl coma" my brain was in.
 
Anyone ever used Benadryl as a sub for anti anxiety meds? I had one nurse tell me this a long time ago when I was deathly afraid of taking a Benzo. Then the pharmacist tells me Benadryl can be used as a sleep aid. It IS very sedating for me, any antihistimine is... I absolutely can not drive on anything like it.
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   Posted 8/29/2007 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   

There was a member back awhile ago that was looking at using it. It will cause drowsiness, you are right about that. 

You might ask your physician about Vistaril (Atarax).  This is not a benzo and is used to decrease anxiety and the cost is very low compared to many of the newer meds.

Just a thought.

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DrivingFear
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   Posted 8/29/2007 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I had a doc suggest Benadryl instead of Xanax when I was having panic attacks and I never visited him again :)
I guess if it works for you, it's a good idea. For me, no way.

Rich

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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 8/29/2007 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Benadryl was orginally developed for psych problems (i.e. shell shock the precusor to PTSD, mainly to help people sleep, because of left over combat stress symptoms) but the effects on the sinises was noted and developed much more. Hence why is it now a household name.
 
Here is some more info about the history of the drug: "While conducting research at UC, he developed a number of potential antispasmodic compounds. Benadryl, one of these compounds, showed promise as an anti-allergy drug"


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Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/30/2007 7:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Sarah
How are ya doing besides this ......
I know I cannot take antihistamines and especially Benadryl makes my ticker race .....

I have used Gravol or (Dimenihydrate) and that will put me out ....

Atarax is a good one too I have taken that many many yrs ago ......

I wish you all the best can you not call your doc and see what he says
I live in a place where we are totally covered for all medical issues ....
Doc visits ,procedures, rx's all of it and I have to say I feel bad for the ppl that are so far into debt in there young lives because of needing medical attention....

Anyways back to you
If it works I guess you could use it but does it not have alcohol in it ?? I know the Stuff here does as does most cough syrups which will be changing quite shortly ....prolly not large amount but still if you are on any other meds ??
I guess I am trying to say I think if it works for you and it wont interfere with the way you are able to function in the am's then do use it .....

Keep us posted hun and take care k

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SarahP
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   Posted 8/30/2007 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, everyone. Last night convinced me this was NOT a good idea. I had mini panic attacks all night. Really weird. I'd be drifting off and then BAM felt like someone was grabbing me around the ribs and compressing my chest. Totally stopped when I sat up and shook off the grogginess a little. Only happened as I was zoning and about to fall asleep. I also woke up with one heck of a hangover, Benadryl doesn't have alcohol in it, but you would think so by the way I feel this morning. Ugh. Plus, my sinuses are messed up big time now.

So, my conclusion... it works to put you out. BUT, it makes it hard to "rationalize" the mini panic attacks. Usually, if I get one I can think it away. They were just one after another last night...almost like it made me vulnerable to them. I think my hubby's arm must be sore as many times as I reached over and grabbed it..LOL. So I will have to search for another short term solution.

My doc's office has a policy that they do not give out narcotics or benzos unless you make an appt., come in get your vitals done, etc. They are very liberal with what they give you.. my primary doc said he is NOT scared of the DEA, he treats his patients as he sees fit. But they still want you in the office.

After I swill down enough coffee to bust me out of this Benadryl fog, I'm going to research alternatives. Or go back to bed..lol. Whatever this panic deal is, it doesn't affect my sleep during the day.. only at night. Weird, huh?
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/30/2007 11:28 AM (GMT -6)   
nope not at all
I lay in bed and stinking thinking comes to play and I cant shut brain off ...........until I was RX Trazadone and it has been a gift for my nighttime panic and sleeplessness......plus I sleep a good solid 4 6 hrs w/o waking .....wake w/o a feeling like hungover and it feels so dang good
I also have a HOT milk at night with some cinnamon in it to calm me down has a natural ingredient in it to soothe ..........when heated ............
I am able to stay awake more during the day now that I sleep better.......

Hope you get some relief soon hun and hubby's arm too lol
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