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Posted By : Bewolf - 9/7/2017 11:56 AM
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I am 25 years old and i feel deeply depressed at the afternoon especially after lunch forward until late in the afternoon. Also feel bad in quiet deserted places, i hate the country side abandoned places or industrial zones. love the cities the noise and the disarray . I feel fine at morning and at night, but after lunch i started to feel sick and distressed. the worst hours are 2 3 4 and 5 pm and then it gets better.
I have a background of bullying and psychological abuse, dysfunctional family. Recently i have searched help with a psychologist(Therapist) and i have been diagnosed with high anxiety very low self esteem and moderate depression. Never tried but thought about suicide many times. Does any one feel the same? Does any one know what is this

Posted By : Tim Tam - 9/7/2017 1:20 PM
As a bipolar, I would say 25 is about the age that some of this can break out.

When I was about 28, I lost my job, was out of social contact, alone in my apartment, and within a day or two, I was getting depressed.

I wasn't used to taking care of myself, and was negative, so I didn't know what to do. That state went on for about 3 or 4 weeks, and the depression became so heavy on the top of my head, it just crushed me and I had a nervous breakdown.

I got to a psychiatrist, thank goodness, and got on medication. I wish I had gone before the nervous breakdown.

So if you're getting depressed at a particular time of the day, and in certain places such as the country, it still says you're getting depressed. So you might want to go to a psychiatrist and at least get their take on that. You don't have to take any medicine, you can just find out what they think.

Plus, if it gets worse, right, you'll have a psychiatrist, how easy is that? If you don't get worse, you won't need the psychiatrist. If you do, you'll have him or her. You can't lose.

Do you have anybody in your family who is has emotional problems, such as a parent or grandparent, for it can skip a generation from your grandparent down to you?

You say, "I have a background of bullying and psychological abuse, dysfunctional family."

Well that sounds like me. I came from such a family. I also came from a family that had mental illness, my mother's mother was bipolar, and it skipped a generation down to me.

My older brother was sexually abused by our mother, and he used to verbally, emotionally and physically abuse me on a regular basis. And I inherited bipolar, so yeah, it's been kinda rough.

How I got through all of that, I don't know, I would just go from day to day, and somehow I got through it. I still catch heck from all kind of people, it never has slowed up.

You say, "love the cities the noise and the disarray."

This extreme love on one side, and then depression on the other, could show signs of bipolar, or mania and depression. Have you considered that you might be bipolar? Is that why you choose this forum of bipolar?

I'm on meds now, lithium for mania and Mirtazapine for depression, so I wouldn't 5 minutes without that, and it does help with the difficult times.

Posted By : Bewolf - 9/8/2017 1:08 PM
Thank you for reply Tim Tam

As i said above i am currently having sessions with a psychologist ( which is different from a Psychiatrist) for one month and he has not determined any major disease . i have been diagnosed with high anxiety very low self esteem and moderate depression. I am not taking any drugs currently.

I live in Portugal and we don't have the custom of going to psychiatrist but i suspect that my mother is obessesive compulsive and my grandmother takes xanax for sleeping.

I remenber when I went to school when I was 5 years old i felt the same. The school was out of town the classes were in the afternoon and i felt deeply depressed. I had to move to a school in the city center the classes were in the morning and i felt better.

I do not feel at any time euphoric which is a feature of someone with bipolar disorder so i suspect that i amay not be Bipolar but i canot explain this feelings.

Posted By : Tim Tam - 9/8/2017 2:46 PM
Thank you for your reply.

In your first post, you said, “i feel deeply depressed at the afternoon especially after lunch forward until late in the afternoon. Also feel bad in quiet deserted places, i hate the country side abandoned places or industrial zones”

So, there you are showing a lot of depression. For whatever reason, for whatever the location, you are “deeply depressed.”

The you say you “love the cities the noise and the disarray.”

Then after lunch, “I start to feel sick and distressed.” And “the worst hours are 2, 3, 4, and 5 p.m.”

You are going way up, with your “love of the cities and the noise and the disarray.

”And way down, with “I feel deeply depressed at the afternoon.” And “I hate the country.”

But you “love” the cities.

As a bipolar myself, you seem to be getting very excited over some things (the cities) and “very depressed” at others (afternoons).

As I said in my first post, during the 2 years I was working in an office with other people, I was very excited with all the talk and activity.

When I lost my job, about the 2nd or 3rd day I was starting to get depressed, and then went into a full depression by the 3rd or 4th day probably.

That to me is very similar to your “loving” the cities and “very depressed” over the countryside.

In a way, it’s not so much what’s going on outside (country or city, working or not working), it’s our inside condition of bipolar.

The outside condition is merely exposing that.

This is all my opinion as a bipolar.

1. Most people don’t get overly excited by being in a city (or working a job) and very depressed in the country (or being out of a job.). They can handle it either way without going overboard. So something is going on inside of us (bipolar?).

2. You are 25, maybe approaching the age when bipolar can start to show. So maybe you are not full blown bipolar yet, but inching towards that. In another year or two or three, you may lose a job or lose a girlfriend, and you could get really down or very excited over something good.

3. You say you have relatives who have emotional problems, saying, “i suspect that my mother is obessesive compulsive and my grandmother takes xanax for sleeping.”

So, you’re 25, have emotional problems in the family, and feel very depressed when you drive out into the country, and “love” the city.

It looks to me, as a bipolar, as though you have some “factors.”

I think it’s good to know things like this in advance of any potential trouble, rather than be wondering what’s going on if trouble starts to brew, as was in my case.

You say, “I live in Portugal and we don't have the custom of going to psychiatrist”

I’m not sure I quite understand that. Even if you’re like, really, really sick, what do you do?

Just go to a general medicine doctor and he gives you some tranquilizers?

Yet, they don’t really treat you for specific things like bipolar, with a mood stabilizer like Lithium (which is what I take) and an anti-depressant (I take Mirtazapine)?

As far as your grandmother taking Xanax for sleep, has she ever taken a health food suppiment for that?

I take Melatonin health food supplement for sleep. You should check with your doctor or druggist about health food suppliments, for they may not go good with the meds you are taking, or, they may be just plain bad for you by themselves.

My psychiatrist says Melatonin from the health food store is OK, because it has been around for a long time.

One person on this site said they took for awhile, “Knock-out” from the health food store, which has Melatonin and Valerian Root combined, and he said it worked very well.

He also recommended "Chamomile" calmative from the health food store.

You can order these items on the net if there is no health food store near you. You‘ll have to decided what you think is best.

Posted By : Bewolf - 9/14/2017 12:16 PM
Dear friend Tim Tam
As i said above it started when i went to school when I was 5 years old i felt the same. The school was out of town the classes were in the afternoon and i felt deeply depressed. I had to move to a school in the city center the classes were in the morning and i felt better.
Could i be bipolar at 5 years old? I honestly doubt it

Posted By : UserANONYMOUS - 9/18/2017 8:01 AM
Hi Bewolf,

Welcome to the forum smile!

I am sorry or how you have been feeling. Seeking help is the first step which you took for yourself. I am glad you are seeing a psychologist. Talking can be helpful, and you can learn lots of coping methods to help you cope with your feelings.

Are you still in therapy? Sometimes it takes sometime before you feel better. I hope you keep at it.

Moderator - Bipolar

Posted By : Bewolf - 10/3/2017 12:09 PM

I am sorry but i have been with problems with my lap top
I started therapy in late September with psychotherapy not taking any drugs
My therapist belives that i am not bipolar or any other major disease
For being honest i am not feeling better
let´s hope for better days


Posted By : UserANONYMOUS - 10/3/2017 5:29 PM
Hi Bewolf,

Computer issues can be a hassle. My laptop recently crashed and it was a headache.

I am sorry you are not feeling any better. Do you feel any better at all with your present therapist?
Sometimes it takes some time before we get comfortable with a therapist.

Try using coping techniques as well. Journaling, distractions such as music, reading, watching movies helps me.

Know that we are here for you.

Moderator - Bipolar

Posted By : Tim Tam - 10/3/2017 7:05 PM
I went to and it listed some of the symptoms of bipolar.

It noted:

Mania and hypomania

Mania and hypomania are two distinct types of episodes, but they have the same symptoms. Mania is more severe than hypomania and causes more noticeable problems at work, school and social activities, as well as relationship difficulties. Mania may also trigger a break from reality (psychosis) and require hospitalization.

Both a manic and a hypomanic episode include three or more of these symptoms:

•Abnormally upbeat, jumpy or wired
•Increased activity, energy or agitation
•Exaggerated sense of well-being and self-confidence (euphoria)
•Decreased need for sleep

•Unusual talkativeness
•Racing thoughts

•Poor decision-making — for example, going on buying sprees, taking sexual risks or making foolish investments

Major depressive episode

A major depressive episode includes symptoms that are severe enough to cause noticeable difficulty in day-to-day activities, such as work, school, social activities or relationships. An episode includes five or more of these symptoms:

•Depressed mood, such as feeling sad, empty, hopeless or tearful (in children and teens, depressed mood can appear as irritability)
•Marked loss of interest or feeling no pleasure in all — or almost all — activities

•Significant weight loss when not dieting, weight gain, or decrease or increase in appetite (in children, failure to gain weight as expected can be a sign of depression)
•Either insomnia or sleeping too much

•Either restlessness or slowed behavior
•Fatigue or loss of energy
•Feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt

•Decreased ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness
•Thinking about, planning or attempting suicide

Other features of bipolar disorder

Signs and symptoms of bipolar I and bipolar II disorders may include other features, such as anxious distress, melancholy, psychosis or others. The timing of symptoms may include diagnostic labels such as mixed or rapid cycling. In addition, bipolar symptoms may occur during pregnancy or change with the seasons.

Symptoms in children and teens

Symptoms of bipolar disorder can be difficult to identify in children and teens. It's often hard to tell whether these are normal ups and downs, the results of stress or trauma, or signs of a mental health problem other than bipolar disorder.

Children and teens may have distinct major depressive or manic or hypomanic episodes, but the pattern can vary from that of adults with bipolar disorder. And moods can rapidly shift during episodes. Some children may have periods without mood symptoms between episodes.

The most prominent signs of bipolar disorder in children and teenagers may include severe mood swings that are different from their usual mood swings.

When to see a doctor

Despite the mood extremes, people with bipolar disorder often don't recognize how much their emotional instability disrupts their lives and the lives of their loved ones and don't get the treatment they need.

And if you're like some people with bipolar disorder, you may enjoy the feelings of euphoria and cycles of being more productive. However, this euphoria is always followed by an emotional crash that can leave you depressed, worn out — and perhaps in financial, legal or relationship trouble.

If you have any symptoms of depression or mania, see your doctor or mental health professional. Bipolar disorder doesn't get better on its own. Getting treatment from a mental health professional with experience in bipolar disorder can help you get your symptoms under control.

The exact cause of bipolar disorder is unknown, but several factors may be involved, such as:

•Genetics. Bipolar disorder is more common in people who have a first-degree relative, such as a sibling or parent, with the condition. Researchers are trying to find genes that may be involved in causing bipolar disorder.

Factors that may increase the risk of developing bipolar disorder or act as a trigger for the first episode include:
•Having a first-degree relative, such as a parent or sibling, with bipolar disorder
•Periods of high stress, such as the death of a loved one or other traumatic event
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