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Posted By : Sherrine - 11/12/2015 10:01 AM
Ahhh...a nice new fresh thread!

Here are the links to Part 1 and Part 2 if anyone wants to read through them.

Part 1

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=2898598

Part 2

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=3274470

Sherrine
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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 11/14/2015 4:42:47 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : almost medfree - 11/13/2015 3:48 AM
Thanks, Sherrine.

Sorry I didn't get back to you, Grammy. It's been very busy around here. My husband and I are moving to another part of town soon. We found a healthier location. The move will be good for both of us.

I know what you mean about being on your feet for too long and your muscles starting to burn. I have to remind myself to breathe at that point and I sometimes use what I've learned in the book, The Healing Code.

Interesting thing I've discovered about my feeling tight at night and experiencing more difficulty in trying to go to sleep, if I eat a gassy food that day, this affects my ability to sleep. Strange...
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Posted By : woinarow - 11/14/2015 12:42 AM
Almost medfree, I read the article you posted, and I decided to start a food diary. Thanks for the nudge!
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Posted By : almost medfree - 11/14/2015 5:24 AM
You're welcome, woinarrow.

What started my journey in paying attention to what I eat was years ago I watched a public TV program featuring a speaker named JJ Virgin. She is a certified nutritionist. JJ worked with doctors to come up with the following program to help people deal with their arthritic pain and to help them lose weight.

She strongly suggests that a person stay away from the following seven foods for three weeks, see how you feel, then reintroduce one at a time and see how it affects you. I lost 7 lbs during those 3 weeks and yes my pain level improved somewhat…

The seven foods are: eggs, peanuts, corn, sugars including artificial, soy, dairy products, and gluten products.

It was as if restraining myself from these foods started to give me the ability to recognize which foods affected me. I discovered I also have to avoid acidic and spicy foods too. If my stomach bothers me--this tends to give me more pain and tightness.

Posted By : Sherrine - 11/14/2015 5:46 AM
By the way, I added the links to Part 1 and Part 2 of the Diet and Food Discussions threads...just in case anyone wants to go back and check them out...in the first post on this thread. I forgot to do that the other day.

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Posted By : GrammyG - 11/23/2015 11:04 PM
Thanks, MedFree. I need to read that book. I sure hope you have help with your move and don't overdo. Such a lot of work to move.

I'm pretty happy that my Sleep Apnea test came back normal. I have used a CPAP for 15 years but lost 45 pounds about 4 years ago. I retested and it was normal. This has encouraged me so much. Now if I could just lose 30 more pounds! I am stuck and can't seem to get it to budge. I know if I go lower carb that I would lose more BUT I am nervous about going lower carb because I started passing kidney stones.

Do you crave sugar, MedFree? It causes me so many problems with my diet. I will do well and then I have a day when my cravings get the best of me. What keeps you motivated to stay consistent with eating well?

Posted By : almost medfree - 11/24/2015 5:00 AM
YW, and thanks for your concern, Grammy, about our moving. You wouldn't believe the supportive and understanding husband I have. He understands I can't do a lot and he enjoys working hard. We're taking the move slowly, we're going to have 3 weeks to get it done. Not only is my husband strong, he's smart too. I feel truly blessed.

Congrats, Grammy, on having your sleep apnea issue come back as normal! I was tested for that a couple times in the past. I have a mild case. I tried the CPAP and I couldn't do it, maybe because of my old neck injury. It was very uncomfortable for me. You must be thrilled you can stop using it.

I wonder if healthier carbs would do the trick for you, Grammy. I found a bread in the freezer section of the store that I like better than Ezekial Bread. It's Rudi's bread. We buy the gluten free multigrain variety. For the first time in my life, I found a bread with crusts that I love too.

Do I crave sugar? No, maybe because I don't eat it? When I'm at a nice restaurant with beautiful desserts, it can be difficult to pass up things like key lime pie. But then I remind myself of how I'll sleep if I eat it or how I'll feel the next day. Then I pat myself on the back and take pride in myself and say, job well done!

And, I also don't have sugar or products containing more than a minimal amount of sugar in the house. The only sweetener I use during the day is some local honey in my steel cut oatmeal in the morning.

I've found if I occasionally eat something, like when I would cheat years ago and have a Burger King whopper, I would crave those bad foods more. Completely staying away from it, helps me keep those cravings away.

I'm definitely not near perfect when it comes to snacking. In the afternoon I have a few sweet potato chips and a bit of healthy cereal with almond milk. These seem to help settle my stomach. And in the evening I have white bean chips and homemade guacamole. The chips are processed but they're probably better the most. These are the treats that I crave.

I do have a healthy morning snack, almond butter spread on a slice of Rudi's toast.

And for drinking, I only drink water and I have a cup of apple juice with my breakfast. I drink a lot of water. I find that I crave it.
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Post Edited (almost medfree) : 11/24/2015 5:25:44 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : GrammyG - 11/24/2015 10:10 PM
Hi MedFree,

You are blessed to have an understanding and supportive husband. I don't know what I would do without my sweetheart! He is disabled but tries so hard to help where he can. It's wonderful that you can take your time.

Well, I got some discouraging news from my doctor today. He told me to stay on the CPAP machine. He said it would help but didn't say why so I sent him back a note. I slept without it last night.

I will definitely check out the Rudis bread. I am insulin resistant so I am very sensitive to wheat and sugar. I can gain weight so quickly. I have added Butternut Squash and occasionally will eat oatmeal.

Sugar is like an addiction. I don't eat sugar (rarely) but I still make low carb treats using Erythritol and stevia. It keeps my cravings stirred up.

Do you have problems with blood sugar issues? I go in and out of a pre-diabetic diagnosis.

Do you have some favorite health blogs you read regularly?
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Posted By : almost medfree - 11/25/2015 5:15 AM
Hi Grammy,

So nice to hear from you. I'm glad you also have a wonderfully supportive husband. And it's nice even though he's disabled, he tries hard.

Concerning the discouraging news, good luck with the note. Maybe you can ask him why you need to use it and if there's a way to "test" how you're doing without it. Good luck on that.

I just took a look at my Ezekial bread and Rudi's bread in the freezer. The sprouted grains and seed Ezekial bread has 0 grams of sugar. The Rudi's has 3 grams. No wonder it's so good. I'm going to have to pay attention and see if having a sandwich (2 pieces) affects my sleep that night.

I love butternut squash. I don't think I have blood sugar issues. But I do find I have to eat something every couple hours or I'll feel weak and sometimes crabby.

Health blogs--I never looked into that. Is there one or two you could recommend?
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : Sherrine - 11/25/2015 6:31 AM
Olives and olive oil help with insulin resistance. I have that problem too. Also olive leaf extract is supposed to be good but I haven't tried that. I just eat green Spanish olives and, since I started doing that, my A1C tests have been magnificent! I just got my latest results last week and it was 5.7. That's excellent.

Of course losing weight does help, too, and counting carbs did the trick for me.

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Posted By : almost medfree - 11/25/2015 7:40 AM
I'm glad olives help you, Sherrine. I tried it and even with rinsing them the vinegar affects my stomach. I'll have to check out that olive leaf extract. Thanks.
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True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : GrammyG - 11/29/2015 12:26 AM
I wish I could eat the olives. I even have an olive tree and have cured my own olives in the past. But, the salt bothers my joints. All salt seems to bother me these days. I even rinsed the olives but it seemed to still bother me. I'm so glad it works for you, Sherrine.
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Posted By : almost medfree - 11/29/2015 5:22 AM
Hi Grammy,

An olive tree, wow. I wanted to share with you that I recently had jarred artichokes that were in an olive oil brine. They were pretty good.

Here's a recipe you might want to try for your olives:

http://wishfulchef.com/marinated-olives/#recipe
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True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : GrammyG - 11/30/2015 9:51 PM
Hi MedFree,

That looks like a yummy recipe. I still would have problems though because an olive has to be cured first in a brine of salt. Next year I may make them and give away for gifts. It's a lot of work.

I'm going to try not take my Gabapentin tonight. I'm down to 1 pill. I'm hoping I can get off of it completely.
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Posted By : almost medfree - 12/1/2015 4:38 AM
Good luck, Grammy, I (we're) pulling for you.

Yesterday I had an appointment with my massage therapist and she applied peppermint oil mixed with unscented lotion to the bottom of my feet. (They can get tired feeling and itchy on the bottoms.) Feels and smells very nice.
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Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : Sherrine - 12/1/2015 6:56 AM
Grammy, you can cure olives with water and also with lye. Here is a link that explains this. It's at the bottom of the article.

mhttp://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=46

You also could try olive leaf extract but talk with your doctor first.

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Posted By : GrammyG - 12/1/2015 11:15 PM
Thank you, Sherrine. I wonder how they would taste without the salt? I'll do some more investigation. Thanks so much for thinking of me.
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He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. (Isaiah 53:3) NIV

Posted By : purple_lynx7 - 12/2/2015 9:59 AM
Apple cider vinegar

Has anybody tried regularly consuming this for fibro symptoms? From what I've read there is not alot of research done.

But I read that it can help with weight loss, so I gave it a try. A cup of warm water , 1/2 tablespoon of acv, and honey Before breakfast. What I happened to notice is my morning pain has decreased.

So then I read more that there are claims that it increases potassium, balances blood sugar levels and helps digestion and more .

Also I read to be careful if you have diabetes and check with your doc first .

Posted By : Sherrine - 12/2/2015 11:41 AM
Vinegar does help with pain. Some people with arthritis will drink pickle juice but I sure wouldn't. It's way too acidic and I think could cause stomach problems.

I eat Kosher dill pickles every day (they are cured in vinegar) and that has helped decrease my pain...that and green Spanish places. My he olives have something in them that works like an NSAID without the stomach problems. Between the olives and pickles, I've gotten rid of half my pain medication and also my insulin shot. My doctor is starting to take notice and is asking me questions. turn

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Posted By : GrammyG - 12/2/2015 11:51 AM
I am taking Apple Cider Vinegar tablets to keep things acidic to discourage kidney stones. I take 2 with each meal. I was a bit concerned about the vinegar and my teeth although I have heard you can rinse your mouth afterwards.

That is so interesting, Sherrine. I will do a search to see if there are low sodium olives or pickles.
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Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, food intolerances, sleep apnea and kidney stones

He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. (Isaiah 53:3) NIV

Posted By : GrammyG - 12/2/2015 11:55 AM
Sherrine... I just did a search and they DO sell low sodium olives at Coscto, Walgreens and Walmart. Yippee Skippy.

Did you tell me that you eat one serving of olives a day? And how many pickles?
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He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. (Isaiah 53:3) NIV

Posted By : MelW11 - 12/2/2015 12:17 PM
We buy the low sodium olives at Walmart and they are yummy. I am interested in the serving size on this too. I have been following the thread and it seems very interesting :)
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Posted By : almost medfree - 12/4/2015 5:41 AM
I know the link I'm providing below isn't from a very reputable website, but I have heard my doctors comment on some of the information contained in the following article:

http://sugaraholics.com/2012/05/16/the-dangerous-effects-of-modern-sugar-use-100-sugar-dangers/

It amazes me when I see people eating a sugary substance in place of a meal. But what amazes me even more is when I see parents purchasing a large sugary substance for their children like a piled-high ice cream cone. How could they be hungry later?

Thanks for listening. i would appreciate your comments.
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Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : Sherrine - 12/4/2015 9:46 AM
No one, but no one is ever going to take away my ice cream. I love it and have some nearly every day. I like to make sundaes and lots of times use fresh fruit as the topping with a healthy dose of whipped cream on top. Yum! I will have this in the evening after having a healthy meal. I also use no sugar added ice cream. I can enjoy my sweets in a fairly healthy way this way.

I like sweet things and use in moderation because I'm diabetic. But with an A1C of 5.7 and blood work that is all in the normal range, cholesterol is excellent and blood pressure is low and I'm keeping my weight steady...I'm not going to deprive myself of enjoying sweets. Life is short. I'm going to enjoy it in moderation.

By the way. I'm so tired of hearing of all the foods I shouldnt eat. If I was a rabbit I'd be very very happy. devil I believe in everything in moderation.

Sherrine

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Post Edited (Sherrine) : 12/4/2015 8:51:07 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : Luvzminis - 12/4/2015 11:10 AM
When I worked outside my home some years back, I'd see people having a cigarette and a Pepsi and calling it their lunch! Ewwww!

The older I get, the more my body seems to not tolerate sugar well (more headache or sinus issues, especially). But that's okay. I'm fine if I just have a bite or two of maybe a cookie, or a mini candy bar--just enough to satisfy. I know it's healthier for me, too. And it focuses me more on healthy eating--a good thing.

So true, Sherrine--everything in moderation.
"Nothing is so strong as gentleness; nothing so gentle as real strength."

St. Francis de Sales

Posted By : almost medfree - 12/4/2015 1:18 PM
We're all so different in what we crave and if we have any interest in hearing which foods we should possibly stay away from.

Since I only do over the counter meds because that's all that I can tolerate and the only meds that help me, I want to know which foods I should possibly stay away from to help my health issues--so I won't possibly suffer. I'm my own best detective.

Sherrine, interesting that you crave ice cream with fruit and whipped cream. I crave my nightly guacamole with white bean chips. This isn't the healthiest option either.

Yes, everything in moderation can be a good idea for some . . . it's much better than not being moderate.

I know what you mean, Luv, the older I get the more I can't tolerate sugar. It's great that you can do just a few bites. I find that if I have a few bites, I would go back to craving sugar. So I don't miss it too much.

We're all so different and we're interesting.

Thanks for your replies.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : vestabula - 12/5/2015 5:06 AM
Yes...we certainly are all different. I have had fibro for at least 25 years and never noticed even once that food triggered a flare, nor has any food I ate made the pain worse. Eating a healthy diet for overall good health is common sense but at my age I don't intend to limit the things I enjoy for fear of an extra ache or pain. That's just me.

Donna

Posted By : almost medfree - 12/5/2015 5:33 AM
That's great, vestibula. It's nice to make people aware who might be sensitive to certain foods.

I sometimes wonder if I have HASHIMOTOS AUTOIMMUNE THYROIDITIS. I would post a link for this, but the website I found to be most helpful is a blog and I don't think it's okay to post a link to a blog in Healing Well.

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 12/6/2015 3:06:36 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : Sherrine - 12/5/2015 6:38 AM
Here is an article about meatless diets and how it can possibly affect your mental health.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/12/04/research-points-to-mental-health-risks-associated-with-meatless-diet/

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Posted By : vestabula - 12/5/2015 1:26 PM
That's interesting Sherrine. I was reading an article yesterday (AARP??) that warned people about this new trend to eliminate sugar and carbs from their diet...said that these foods are necessary to maintain "brain health"...like with focus and energy. Children who are not offered something with carbs in it for breakfast tend to poop out by lunchtime.

It's amusing to watch how the medical community changes its opinion on what is healthy and what is not, every other day. Coffee used to be a killer...now it adds years to your life. Butter is now better for you than margarine and I just heard on the news that whole milk doesn't clog your arteries!

Who knew...LOL!

Posted By : Luvzminis - 12/5/2015 1:38 PM
Donna: That's so true!

In this day and age, especially, we sometimes have to even be wary of certain groups, organizations, health gurus, etc. considered for decades to be "experts" on health. Too often, it winds down to it just being their personal biases, opinions or agenda, or even what's popular at the moment.

Common sense--and doing our homework-- really have to be at work these days, and I think if we're trying our best to eat for health (while still enjoying our favorite treats once in a while), we can't go wrong. yeah

almost medfree: Is Hashimoto's common with fibromyalgia? I've had my thyroid checked numerous times, but the tests always come back as normal. I thought I'd heard it can be linked to fibro(??) Not sure, though.
"Nothing is so strong as gentleness; nothing so gentle as real strength."

St. Francis de Sales

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Posted By : GrammyG - 12/5/2015 10:43 PM
It's so interesting how unique our bodies are and how one thing will affect some but not others. Unfortunately, I am one of those people that can't eat dairy without increase Fibro pain all over. I'm not talking about a few aches and pains but BAD pain. It's just not worth it.

I don't notice any pain from eating grains but my blood sugar goes too high so I eat very little grains.

I must admit that every once in a while I will indulge knowing I'll pay for it later. :-)
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Posted By : almost medfree - 12/6/2015 4:22 AM
Sherrine, thanks for the link to the website. I've been wondering for years if vegetarians get enough protein and the right kinds. Meat wise I only eat: chicken, turkey, eggs, nuts, seeds, avocados, and fish for my protein.

Vestabula, I believe, for those who are interested in eating more healthfully, we should eat the right kinds of sugars and carbs. Vegetables are carbs, I'm not sure if all are, and whole grain carbs are healthy. White carbs are the worse. It was explained to me that they pass through the body slowly and they lack nutritious value.

When it comes to sugar, fruits have sugar. They're more healthy than refined sugars because they absorb into our bodies slower and don't spike and lower our blood sugar so dramatically.

Luv, it looks like fibromyalgia and Hashimoto's can be related. I have an appointment with my GP this month. I'm going to ask her about it. There are a lot of websites that talk about it.

Grammy, I know what you mean indulging every once in a while. I too can't tolerate any dairy. I love my almond milk.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 12/6/2015 4:23:09 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : almost medfree - 12/12/2015 5:21 AM
Hi Everyone,

I wanted to know how many of you experience the following:

Every now and then my husband and I enjoy eating a yellow tomato which is supposedly low in acid.

We purchased a heirloom yellow tomato, ate it, and the following morning I had that horrible burning feeling in my esophagus. It also increased my fibro pain and it was so bad it affected my emotions. I felt very angry and frustrated about life and sad too. When it went away later that morning, I was back to my old appreciative self.

Does this happen to anyone else?

Thanks.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Post Edited (almost medfree) : 12/12/2015 5:06:13 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : GrammyG - 12/12/2015 11:02 PM
Hi Almost Medfree

I don't have burning in my esophagus after eating some foods but my glands on both sides of my neck will get sore. I wonder if the tomatoes are too high acid and you are getting acid reflux? My mother can't eat any nightshade without getting heartburn. green peppers will do it to me.
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Posted By : almost medfree - 12/13/2015 5:34 AM
Hi Grammy,

Yes, I do have acid reflux but I feel the need to test tomatoes now and then because I love them. Interesting that both sides of your neck get sore.

Thanks for sharing.
Fibromyalgia, CFS, MCS, scoliosis, herniated disks, spinal stenosis, osteoarthritis, sjorgens, sleep apnea, asthma, allergies, headaches. On a regiment of different supplements including sleep supplements. I eat nutritiously and perform prescribed stretches twice daily.

Favorite Quote:
True happiness comes not from material gain but from what we can do for each other.

Posted By : GrammyG - 12/13/2015 8:18 PM
Almost Medfree,
I understand. I've done the same thing with milk and then was so sorry because it increased my pain a lot. But, now I know. :-)
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Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, food intolerances, sleep apnea and kidney stones

He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. (Isaiah 53:3) NIV

Posted By : almost medfree - 1/9/2016 5:26 AM
I saw this article this morning and I thought it might be beneficial to post. Yes, Dr. Mercola can be controversial, but some of his articles can be really helpful


Have a great day.

Almost, I had to take the link out because it was so long that it was expanding all the posts on this page and you could barely read them.m thanks for understanding.

Post Edited By Moderator (Sherrine) : 2/4/2016 6:54:57 AM (GMT-7)


Posted By : GrammyG - 1/9/2016 11:13 PM
I appreciate Dr. Mercola. Thanks so much! I will read the article.

How are you feeling? Does your pain increase in the winter? What are you
using these days?

Needed to increase the Gabapentin back to 600 mg. at night with either Benadryl one night or
a muscle relaxer the next. I really hate taking medication but I can't sleep otherwise because
of the pain or 'buzzing'. It could be so much worst. I need to be thankful I'm getting help.
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Posted By : almost medfree - 1/10/2016 5:37 AM
Hi Grammy, you're welcome.

My husband and I closed on our house on the other side of town away from the asphalt plant. The air is much fresher. We're slowly moving in and the furniture will be moved later this week. It's nice to open the windows again.

I've noticed, Grammy, that if I go into an area with mold or chemicals, like yesterday into a Lowe's store, I have more trouble falling asleep because I'm more sore, I urinate more frequently (like 5 times in one hour), and my heart's beating out of my chest. I also take Benedryl at night along with Advil and my sleep supplements which are melatonin and L-theanine.

We moved to Florida. No more winters for me. I hope where you live isn't too hard on you. How are you doing?
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Posted By : GrammyG - 1/10/2016 9:39 PM
I'm glad you were able to find a healthier place to live and WARMER! Wonderful! Interesting about the chemicals. I've read that is common with Fibro sufferers. I haven't noticed a problem personally.

I'm doing pretty good. Doing a lot of research to figure out if I should eliminate coconut and pumpkin seeds from my diet temporarily to see if there is any change in my symptoms. I would LOVE to get off the Gabapentin. I'm not having problems with it but I know any medication has it's side effects.

I woke up with a specific pain in my back and wondered if it was a trigger point ? So, I used a tennis ball to work on it today and it's so much better. Thanks for asking.

How are you doing?
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Posted By : GrammyG - 2/4/2016 1:27 AM
Hi Medfree
I was wondering how you tell if a food is causing problems with your Fibro? What would the symptoms be?
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Posted By : Sherrine - 2/4/2016 6:30 AM
Booklvr posted this...

So today I came across this clinical study that was published in 2014,

Fibromyalgia and non-celiac gluten sensitivity: a description with remission of fibromyalgia

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4209093/

It was done by researchers in Spain. It was a small test group but they followed people for 16 months and reported that some had remission of fibromyalgia after eliminating gluten from their diets.

Has anyone read this study or talked about it with their doctor? i'm sharing it with my doc to see what he says. Honestly, I don't want to get my hopes up on yet another potential treatment that doesn't work.

I know a lot of people out there believe in holistic remedies. No offense to anyone but I am only interested in clinical medical information.

If you know of a further study done since the time of the one in Spain, please pass it along. I feel like I am at the end of the internet with my search!
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Posted By : countingstarsx - 2/4/2016 8:40 AM
Grammy G,
As far as I know the best way to tell if you are having trouble with a particular food is going on an elimination diet. Eliminate the suspected food for 2-3 weeks and see if you have any improvement. If not, add the food slowly back into your diet and see if it makes things worse.

Posted By : GrammyG - 2/5/2016 3:18 PM
Thank you to both of you for your response.

My diet is already very limited so I dont want to cut out anything else unless I know it is causing problems. That is why I had asked Medfree what her symptoms were when she ate a certain foods.
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Posted By : countingstarsx - 2/5/2016 6:21 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your limited diet Grammy. Maybe Medfree has some more information to offer, but food sensitivities and intolerances usually manifest differently in different people. The advice that most allergists will give is to eliminate a food, usually starting with the top 8 allergens, and see if your symptoms get better. Maybe in your situation you could do one at a time. A functional medicine practitioner may be willing to run an IgG blood test to test for sensitivities, but the accuracy is hit or miss. Elimination is the gold standard.

Posted By : GrammyG - 2/5/2016 9:48 PM
Hi Countingstarsx,
My Dr. did run an IgG blood test and nothing showed up. I did an Alcat test and had moderate food intolerances. I need to just bite the bullet and do an elimination diet. Me thinks me will wait until after the Super Bowl! LOL!!

Thank you, Tiger Tale. I do plan on reading the article. Thanks for posting it.
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Posted By : Booklvr - 2/8/2016 12:46 AM
Hi Tiger Tales. Thanks for posting that link. I have been a pescatarian for almost a year. I would go fully vegetarian and maybe vegan but my doctor said that my health condition won't tolerate it.

So I eat mainly a vegetarian diet but some seafood too. I also eat dairy and eggs (free range). I haven't had any differences with the fibro due to my diet. I stopped eating meat because I don't want to eat animals any more. It wasn't recommended for any health condition. My autoimmune issues are why I have to still eat fish and dairy.

Are you considering trying a vegan diet?
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Posted By : GrammyG - 2/8/2016 3:18 AM
Booklvr... May I ask how long you have been eating this way? I also wondered why your doctor recommended you not go vegetarian? How did he think it would affect your health poorly?
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Posted By : Booklvr - 2/8/2016 11:51 AM
Hi Grammy G. I've been pescatarian since April of last year.

I have an autoimmune disease called Pernicious Anemia. It means that my body doesn't absorb B12 and I am deficient in that. I get a shot monthly but even so I have to ensure that my diet is well balanced. Being fully vegetarian could accomplish this, however it is risky. The risk outweighs the reward.

If you aren't aware, lack of B12 is actually a serious condition. Before we had good tech on it people used to die from this. B12 is responsible for many body functions. Now, people with Pernicious Anemia get an injection once per month in order to stabilize.
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Posted By : <3 - 2/8/2016 6:20 PM
Booklvr,
I went gluten free this past July and saw a decrease in my inflammation pain. It was quite an eye opener for me, and I tested it over the holidays by eating gluten again, and went right back to the achy pain all over but especially in my upper arms. Recently I have given it up again and began a more plant based diet. I can get away with other foods, including gluten, if I have them very sparingly, like once or twice a week. It has helped with my pain quite a bit.
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Posted By : GrammyG - 2/8/2016 9:48 PM
Hi Booklvr,
So you have been on the diet for nearly a year. What is the greatest health benefit you have seen?

I've never heard of Pernicious Anemia. I'm glad there is something they can do for it. I understand now why they don't want you giving up meat completely.
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Posted By : Booklvr - 2/8/2016 10:03 PM
I haven't noticed any health benefits from being pescatarian. I stopped eating meat (aside from fish) because I didn't want to eat animals anymore. I don't think diet affects my fibro either positively or negatively.
I hadn't heard of pernicious anemia either, before I was diagnosed.

I don't have any inflammation like others have posted about so I don't have issues with foods related to those things.

I hope all is well for you GrammyG.
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Posted By : GrammyG - 2/9/2016 12:16 AM
Thank you, booklvr. I wish the same for you.
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Posted By : Sherrine - 2/9/2016 6:47 AM
Booklvr, B12 is found in meat, eggs, cheese...the things you aren't eating so that's probably why you have the deficiency. Also, as we get older, we don't always absorb things well and that can be another cause.

I'm being checked next week for pernicious anemia, my B12 levels, and my red blood count. My red cells were lower than they should be so my doctor is checking it out. I'm also have Crohns disease and I don't absorb things well. I also take Metformin, a diabetic medication, that can help inhibit B12 from being absorbed and my red blood count levels started creeping downward when I started taking the medication.

B12 is very important. B12 helps make red blood cells that carry oxygen to other parts of your body. If you are deficient, some of the symptoms mimic Fibro symptoms like tingling in the fingers, unsteadiness, and fatigue! I'll know more in a week or so.

Here is an excellent link about B12 and symptoms and medications that can cause a deficiency in this very important vitamin.

www.health.harvard.edu/blog/vitamin-b12-deficiency-can-be-sneaky-harmful-201301105780

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Posted By : Booklvr - 2/9/2016 11:23 AM
Hi Sherrine
I was diagnosed with Pernicious Anemia prior to becoming vegetarian. I still do eat dairy and eggs.

Pernicious Anemia is when the body no longer produces enough Intrinsic Factor (IF) which is needed in order to absorb B12. It's an autoimmune disease.

I need to be.flooded.with B12 and the only way to get the proper amount is via an injection. Oral tablets don't accomplish the same result.

I can't be vegan, which would be my preference, because I need the extra B12 that comes from foods like dairy, eggs and fish. Taking a pill won't achieve the same results and is a great risk.

I have other autoimmune diseases that make the chances of getting Pernicious Anemia much higher -which is likely why I have it.

Here is a good link about the disease.
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000569.htm
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Posted By : MelW11 - 2/9/2016 12:18 PM
I have been gluten free for several years due to Celiac Disease. I never cheat, although I have occasionally been cross-contaminated. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia after Celiac so I do not believe the GF diet has helped my Fibro symptoms. However, Celiac Disease and Fibromyalgia have a lot of the same symptoms.

I am also B12 deficient. I was getting injections and have since switched to pills. I do eat red meat and a lot of cheese and eggs.

I am giving up soda pop completely for lent in hopes to kick the habit for good. Wish my family luck. smhair

Posted By : Luvzminis - 2/19/2016 10:22 AM
There are such interesting posts on this thread!

This is probably a bit off-topic, but relates to food.

I know many of us deal with digestive issues. I started taking digestive enzymes, especially for foods which can be more difficult to digest (I found the digestive enzymes in Swanson's vitamins and supplements catalog). They really seem to help.

Also, I know I sometimes don't chew my food as well or as long as I should, especially if I'm distracted and in a conversation, or just in a hurry. I just read (once again) that food should be chewed very well, to the consistency of applesauce. I think that makes sense, since larger particles of food can cause issues.

To remind myself, I wrote "applesauce" on a little paper and I keep it next to my plate when I'm eating. :)

...Just another odd little idea from your friend, Luvzminis. LOL! Have a great day, everyone.

P.S. MelW11: I didn't give up soda for Lent (great idea, BTW), but am trying to avoid white sugar (plus a couple other things I'm doing for Lent). Not easy, but a positive step. yeah
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Posted By : Sherrine - 2/19/2016 12:00 PM
Yes, these are interesting, Luvs, and we have three parts to the Diet and Food Discussions. I think it's far easier to have all of this in one place instead of searching through hundreds of pages.

Now about chewing. My great grandmother said we should chew each bite 100 times! LOL. I tried it and no way could I do that. I'm wish I could...especially since she lived to be 104 years old. shocked

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Posted By : Luvzminis - 2/19/2016 12:50 PM
Hi Sherrine: Chew each bite 100 times!! Wow--it looks like I have major work to do to achieve that goal! I think I'm about 80 bites behind, LOL.

But she sure was doing something right to live to be 104. That's awesome!! :)
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The other is as though everything is a miracle."

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Posted By : Luvzminis - 2/19/2016 3:15 PM
Hi Tiger Tales! Yes, it's important to be careful before starting any supplement. Good reminder!

I developed gastritis in 2011, after having surgery for a burst appendix. My stomach was incredibly sore.

The doctor suspected that the painkiller I took after surgery may have been a factor in developing the gastritis. I had to be on an extremely limited diet for a long time. My stomach area was so sore that I couldn't stand anything that had a waist band, and had to resort to maternity pant and a maternity dress! My diet was SO boring that it was pathetic. But at least I could eat a little, so I shouldn't complain.

Thankfully, it's much, much better now. Once in a while I'll get a slight flare-up, but nothing bad.

The only food that really causes me problems is an egg (hard-boiled, scrambled, or egg foo yong, etc.). If it's in something baked, I have no symptoms. This problem just developed over the past year or so. I get stomach cramps an hour or two after eating eggs, and have to be near the bathroom!

Oatmeal can be troublesome sometimes, but I learned to blend it to a fine powder; then it doesn't bother me.

I tried a gluten-free diet and other elimination diets several years ago, after developing chronic diarrhea "out of the blue" after my youngest was born. Absolutely nothing would stay in me more than 2 hours, and I lost so much weight. I was put on amytriptyline (Elavil) for several years not for depression, but because it's extremely drying. It eventually helped. Bless my GI doctor!

I still can have issues with things like lettuce salad with raw veggies, especially in the summer. But, other than the foods I listed, I can handle most others. I do sometimes get a slight headache after eating popcorn, I've noticed, but I don't notice specific pain, etc. from other foods.

Glad you're seeing an allergist--good idea! I took allergy tests years ago, but nothing much showed up.

Hope you're feeling better soon! It's so tricky to have to watch what you eat so very carefully.

Best wishes!
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Posted By : Sherrine - 5/11/2016 10:42 AM
Bump

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Posted By : Luvzminis - 5/12/2016 3:33 PM
I just did a fun little exercise on healingwell. I first typed in "pickles" in the search box and wow!--I couldn't believe there were so many posts! What was interesting were the posts on drinking a little pickle juice for things like rheumatoid arthritis. I had heard of drinking it for leg cramps, but not for anything like RA.

Then, I typed in "olives" and mostly the posts referred to olive leaf extract or olive oil. Still interesting though.

Maybe others here will want to give it a try. I may just take a little pickle juice for my aches and pains and see what happens.
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Posted By : Sherrine - 5/12/2016 5:18 PM
I personally would not drink pickle juice because of all the sodium in it. ,I rinse my pickles and olives off to get as much sodium off them. I think it's the vinegar that is the pain reliever in the pickles.

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Posted By : Luvzminis - 5/12/2016 7:32 PM
Hmm....good point, Sherrine. I know I certainly don't need more sodium in my diet!

And that would make sense: vinegar seems to almost be a type of wonder 'food' (or drink). I put a little (natural) apple cider vinegar in water and drink that when my achiness kicks up. :-)
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Posted By : Luvzminis - 5/17/2016 2:57 PM
How about a recipe for a low-sodium pickle?

This was mentioned by a reader on "The People's Pharmacy" site. I subscribe to their e-mails:

pickyourown.org/lowsaltpickles.php
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Posted By : Sherrine - 5/17/2016 3:08 PM
There are low sodium pickles in the store. But my stores don't carry the low sodium ones in the brand I like. I contacted the company and the cost for them to send them to me would be prohibitive...hence I rinse them off.

I'm weird. Bet you didn't know that! turn I was visiting my daughter's home in northern Ohio last fall and could NOT find olives I liked! I thought they would all taste the same but they don't. I bought several different brands and didn't eat them.

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Posted By : Luvzminis - 5/17/2016 4:08 PM
I've never seen any low-sodium pickles in the store, but I guess I should start looking! yeah

It's probably because I generally do my grocery shopping at a fairly small store. Maybe I should scout around in Wal-Mart or some place like that. We generally go there every few weeks and stock up on cereals, as we get a better deal.

Going to keep my eyes open for low-sodium pickles AND olives. The recipe that is online sounds good, but I'd rather make refrigerator pickles since my canning hasn't been too successful. rolleyes In fact, I gave up on canning years ago.

Awww, rinsing off the pickles and olives isn't weird, Sherrine. Just shows that you've found a better way. :-)
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Posted By : Sherrine - 5/18/2016 10:36 AM
Good idea, Tiger! I have tried doing that with other products but my store doesn't follow through. They write it down, say they will call me when it comes in, and I never hear from them again. But, as you said. It can't hurt to try...again. Thanks!

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Posted By : Sherrine - 9/20/2016 1:38 PM
Bump!

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Posted By : Sherrine - 9/20/2016 1:46 PM
I lost 85 pounds about eight years ago and have kept it off. I counted carbs and limited myself to 1000-1200 carbs a day. I read labels and you would be surprised at the carbs in some foods. But by doing this, I could eat what I wanted for the most,part and used portion control. I measured out things until I got so I knew how much was a serving. This wasn't hard and I didn't have to deprive myself of anything. That was always a reason diets failed for me.

If you want to know what I did, just shoot me an email and I'll share what I did.

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Posted By : countingstarsx - 9/20/2016 5:27 PM
Myself 09 and Tigertails,
I will respond to you both here since Sherrine closed down the other post. Hope you find it.

I do not have IBD or arthritis. I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and that is why I post here in the fibro forum. While fibro hasn't been linked to inflammation officially, my MD finds that if you have inflammation from food sensitivities it tends to increase weight and pain among other things. This is why I said that after I found and eliminated food sensitivities and allergies not only did I lose weight, but the pain related to fibromyalgia also drastically decreased. I notice right away and for about a week later any time I eat something I am sensitive to, especially gluten foods. I had gluten several days ago and I am paying for it currently in pain.

Tiger --

My MD addressed inflammation solely by the elimination diet and adding fish oil supplements. The fish oil was at a dose of 2-3g a day either all together or split up. She also said that the supplements were unnecessary if I were to consume fatty fish like salmon 2 times a week.

Posted By : Sherrine - 9/20/2016 6:05 PM
Countingstars, I put an explanation in the closed thread as to where to continue the discussion. They should find your post with ease. 😊

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Posted By : Myself 09 - 9/21/2016 10:47 AM
Tiger--It's all good. This support board for fibro can often times veer off fibro issues to food and eating, and that's when we start to get off-topic. Then, other posts turn to food--and we are no longer a fibro board.

There are so many food and diet choices in the world-- and currently, experts do not link food choice to fibromyalgia. Healthy eating is great for overall health. This post is specifically for diet discussions.

Thanks, Sherrine, for clarifying.

Tiger-I see. Some do have sensitivities. I notice that I have some puffiness in hands and feet when I eat too much gluten--however, it doesn't affect my pain levels. I aim for eating an IBD-recommended diet called Selected Carb Diet,or SCD. It cuts out starches and sugars--in the hope that the bacteria in the colon that grow on starches and sugar will starve,and good bacteria can thrive again. It is Paleo-for the most part.

I weigh in on Saturday morning, but as of this morning I have already lost over 4 pounds--water weight and less gluten in diet weight, but I am pleased. It is not official until Saturday. The first week is always a big loss.
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Posted By : Sherrine - 9/21/2016 11:48 AM
Tiger, l'll be happy to explain it to you. First off, if you want to lose weight you have to diet. There are hundreds of diets out there and also strange ways to lose weight. In these discussions food is bound to come up too. We had a big mess on this forum a few years ago because all the post started being about food, people saying we don't have fibro but just gluten sensitivities, etc. I had to put a stop to it because it became a food forum instead of a fibro forum.

I created this Diet and Food Discussions forum for the members. Foods and diets can freely be discussed and not take up all the space on the forum. Plus, this really is totally off topic but I did this for our members. Nothing was "high-jacked". Without my creating this Diet and Food Discussions thread, the other thread would have just been deleted because of forum rules.

Thank you, Myself, for defending my actions. I really appreciate it! Also, congrats on the weight loss! Every pound counts.

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Posted By : Myself 09 - 9/21/2016 4:19 PM
Thanks, Sherrine!! I have been doing fairly well--but it is the first five days. I made good decisions today when out running errands--generally a weak moment for me because I get tired and want a food reward. Instead, I bought a Coke Zero.

Posted By : Myself 09 - 10/2/2016 6:13 PM
BUMP.

Also--so far, down 5.6 pounds. *grins* Be well,all.
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Posted By : Sherrine - 10/4/2016 6:19 AM
Hey, hey, hey, Myself! Great news! Keep up the good work.

I'm also bumping this up for Iamjessica.

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Posted By : GrammyG - 10/14/2016 10:19 PM
Countingstars...can I talk to you about what you have learned about inflammation? How did you figure out which foods caused inflammation? If you wouldn't mind, could you email me? akeeperathome@aol.com


Thank you!


countingstarsx said...
Myself 09 and Tigertails,
I will respond to you both here since Sherrine closed down the other post. Hope you find it.

I do not have IBD or arthritis. I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and that is why I post here in the fibro forum. While fibro hasn't been linked to inflammation officially, my MD finds that if you have inflammation from food sensitivities it tends to increase weight and pain among other things. This is why I said that after I found and eliminated food sensitivities and allergies not only did I lose weight, but the pain related to fibromyalgia also drastically decreased. I notice right away and for about a week later any time I eat something I am sensitive to, especially gluten foods. I had gluten several days ago and I am paying for it currently in pain.

Tiger --

My MD addressed inflammation solely by the elimination diet and adding fish oil supplements. The fish oil was at a dose of 2-3g a day either all together or split up. She also said that the supplements were unnecessary if I were to consume fatty fish like salmon 2 times a week.

Grammy G
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Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, food intolerances, sleep apnea and kidney stones

He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. (Isaiah 53:3) NIV

Posted By : Ljm2014 - 10/15/2016 8:47 PM
My dr. Also recommended fish oils,

I eat fish maybe once a week, but know i need the oil.

I have not tried an elimination diet, but am sure it cannot hurt.

Posted By : Myself 09 - 10/16/2016 3:01 PM
Weight-in after a month,down 8.4 pounds.
Ulcerative Colitis 2003, Fibromyalgia DX 2005, Crohn's 2013, Enteropathic arthritis, 2013. Family History of Fibro--2 out of 3 siblings diagnosed. Started SCD-June 2013. *There are three kinds of people in the world: ones who see the glass as half-full, ones who see the glass as half-empty, and others who see a big crack in the side which is leaking all over their %$#@# foot

Posted By : Myself 09 - 10/19/2016 12:48 PM
Tracie--I am not sure what you mean by clean food, other than unprocessed. I don't eat a lot of processed food. I never really have, because I like to control things like fat and sodium. You can make your own spice rubs for meat, cook lots of veggies to have ready to go for quick meals. One cookbook I recommend is Well-Fed, which is a paleo book The author lays out a food prep plan so that there are always a variety of quick meals ready to be put together.
Ulcerative Colitis 2003, Fibromyalgia DX 2005, Crohn's 2013, Enteropathic arthritis, 2013. Family History of Fibro--2 out of 3 siblings diagnosed. Started SCD-June 2013. *There are three kinds of people in the world: ones who see the glass as half-full, ones who see the glass as half-empty, and others who see a big crack in the side which is leaking all over their %$#@# foot

Posted By : astroman - 1/7/2017 4:17 PM
Aha, I found it. To bad threads like this cant stay on the top. 4 pages worth.

I'm doing a Whole 30 (more restricted Paleo cave man diet), for 30 days. I know my gut does not like glutan or and milk products, I'll see what healthy eating (cave man eating) does for aches and pains in 30 days.

I had lyme, body aches are the norm with this even after treatment is done, even for a long time. Of couse several Dr just threw out the fibro label at me with no proof just to get me to leave. Although so many Drs use fibro as a label, I understand the causes can be many and even other problems not found yet in some, that said, food has reactions in many people, pain or whatever might show up. So I'm reading others experiences.

Posted By : Sherrine - 1/8/2017 6:37 AM
I agree food sensitivities can cause more pain in some people. Food doesn't affect me pain-wise but one thing...MSG...causes heart palpitations in me. Food issues don't cause fibro. We have many members who have fibro but no food sensitivities...me included.
But certain foods can increase pain if you are sensitive to it. I've heard of quite a few members having the gluten difficulty so you are not alone there. It's great they have a section in the grocery stores devoted to gluten free foods. They didn't have that a few years ago.

I hope your Paleo diet helps with your discomfort. It's worth a shot!

Sherrine

Forum Moderator/Fibromyalgia

Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease, Ostomy, Autoimmune Inner Ear Disease, Diabetes, Osteoporosis, Glaucoma, Scoliosis, Ankylosing Spondylitis
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God does not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

Posted By : Sherrine - 2/24/2017 10:33 AM
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Sherrine

Forum Moderator/Fibromyalgia

Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease, Ostomy, Autoimmune Inner Ear Disease, Diabetes, Osteoporosis, Glaucoma, Scoliosis, Ankylosing Spondylitis
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God does not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

Posted By : Sherrine - 5/5/2017 6:03 AM
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Sherrine

Forum Moderator/Fibromyalgia

Fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease, Ostomy, Autoimmune Inner Ear Disease, Diabetes, Osteoporosis, Glaucoma, Scoliosis, Ankylosing Spondylitis
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God does not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

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