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Posted By : sizzlah94 - 11/8/2013 12:56 AM
Hi everyone my name is Eric and I’m 18 years old, during summer I was depressed with my life and everything so I started drinking and this made me feel good about my pathetic life. Anyway as retarded as I am I drank so much alcohol almost every day to the point where my tolerance was so high, this should have been the first red flag but as stupid as I am I still continued ingesting poison into my system neglecting to consider the risks. Currently my body symptoms are red palms, jaundice on my skin and some veins on my arms and legs are becoming more visible which can be considered varicose veins. I already know this is cirrhosis that’s why I have not bothered to go to a doctor because this is kind of already obvious and even if I were to have a chance to get a transplant I don’t think I should receive it because I don’t deserve it. What I did was really stupid and reckless, I brought this upon myself. Listen, to everyone who is reading this I’m not asking for anyone’s pity I just want to know the average lifespan for someone with cirrhosis with the current symptoms I have now so I can roughly estimate how much time I have left of my pathetic life. I have been sober for two months now since I noticed the symptoms but I know that doesn't matter because significant damage to my liver has already been done so now the scarring will just progress. So don’t try to be nice just give me the cold hard truth here please.

Posted By : A.Ziffle - 11/8/2013 6:35 AM
 Welcome Siz, I'll first say that's it great you stopped drinking and are concerned about your health. To my knowledge it takes awhile typically for a liver to be damaged by drinking. We are talking years of abuse, Not a year. However you may have underlying conditions that could accelerate liver problems. Grab your parents and tell them something's wrong and you need to see a doctor. If you catch the problem ahead of time and get it treated you are in route for a normal life I believe. If your in trouble and have no one to help you, You'll have to do this on your own. Not a big deal just go to the doctor or ER yourself. THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS NOTHING and just write yourself off as dead.
You are young and I'm not dismissing your intelligence by saying that. You see practically all of us here are older folks and we have been through some rough patches in life, Particularly during our youthful care free days. I'd venture to say everyone here could share a story of "Feeling low down and life wasn't worth living" at your age. Hindsight shows for all of us those days were just a learning experience that we all use to judge life's newer challenges today. I can tell you that what ever your situation is you'll get through it and likely laugh at how you felt later on in life.
 Find yourself a social group that has better thing to do with there time than staying blistered. AA is something you may be interested in. While I'm not a "Churchy" type of guy (I don't fit in with popular belief) the benefit of having a somewhat sober bunch of people to socialize with is great and who knows? You may like it. Get a hobby that you enjoy and actively do it to occupy that empty space. Most importantly relax and love yourself and the body you've been given. Remember we are not doctors here but we all have been DIAGNOSED by a DOCTOR and are each actively fighting Liver disease in every type and phase. I strongly suggest you see a doctor before pronouncing you are dead at a minimal.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing , It wastes your time and annoys the pig . "

Posted By : MamaLama - 11/8/2013 9:51 AM

Welcome to healing well.

We are a grounp of patients and loved ones of those affected by liver disease.

There is some great information in the resource folders at the top.  Check them out

I agree with Ziff, get yourself to a doc. They will do blood work and some scans. Maybe a liver biopsy. When you actually know your status they can make a determination about how ill you are

When my partner found out he was ill and cirrhosis was diagnosed they told him he would have 15 more years before he was in real trouble if he stayed sober. And he had alcoholic liver disease AND Hep C. But He started drinking again and blew out his liver in 5 years. After getting sober for good he got a transplant. Now he is pretty good.
My partner felt like you...that he'd brought it on himself with bad choices when he was young.  But he has had a full, long term relationship, children...and then it caught up with him. . He gave up drugs over 40 years ago, smoking over 30 years ago, and alcohol September 27, 2010.

Forum moderator - Hepatitis

Partner received liver transplant May 1, 2011, Jackson Memorial, Miami, FL

Post Edited (MamaLama) : 11/8/2013 9:08:15 AM (GMT-7)

Posted By : hep93 - 11/8/2013 11:29 AM
Siz/Eric, welcome to the forum. And congrats on stopping drinking when you suspected something was wrong. Self-diagnosis is a dangerous thing. It is highly unlikely that you have cirrhosis. That takes YEARS of heavy drinking to accomplish, unless there are extenuating circumstances. such as abusing ibuprofen, or other factors. Also, you have youth on your side.

Believe me, I partied hearty in my youth....quit drinking 27 yrs. ago...not because of my health, but because I didn't like the person I was becoming. I had a transplant 2 yrs. ago, but because of liver cancer caused by hep C.

Go see a doctor and get lab work and an exam...other tests if deemed necessary. As stated, we are not doctors, but I feel confident that you will find you have acute inflammation from the drinking you did. You know, there is such a thing as alcohol poisoning (especially in young people) and they can die from it. I don't think it got that serious with you, but do stay away from the booze. Also, do not make the mistake of exchanging drugs for alcohol, not even pot. Live a clean life and treat your body with respect. It's the only one you have. It may take 6 months for your liver to normalize, but the liver will regenerate and heal itself in these types of situations. Even Ziff, from the post above, who had been drinking heavily for years and was older than you, was able to recover from ALD (alcoholic liver disease.) So please relax.

Are you on your parents' insurance? Do you live at home? Since you are 18, you do not necessarily need to take them with you to a doctor appt. or the ER, unless it's required due to insurance purposes. You do need to let them know what's happened, but maybe not for a first visit. I know you do not want to reveal this to them, unless there really is something going on.

I think you are awfulizing a situation that is far from awful. Think of it as a learning experience.

Trust me, I am not sugar coating anything. It's not my style. smilewinkgrin

You are an intelligent young man and I am very glad you found us.

Forum moderator - Hepatitis

"But that was yesterday, and I was a different person then."

Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

Liver transplant recipient, Oct. 27, 2011, at Mayo Hospital, Jacksonville, FL

Post Edited (hep93) : 11/8/2013 10:35:43 AM (GMT-7)

Posted By : defbass - 11/8/2013 9:44 PM
I think self diagnosing Cirrhosis is futile. And you're 18? Go to a doctor man. Jesus.

Posted By : sizzlah94 - 11/13/2013 10:31 AM
thank you very much everyone for replying i really appreciate your support.I went to the ER yesterday and they said that my blood tests and bilirubin level were normal even after i showed them my jaundice and red palms.I am really skeptical about this result. I'm thinking maybe they didn't perform all the tests they were suppose to specifically on the liver as they didn't even give me my ALT and AST numbers or maybe they are truly normal but i still have liver disease because i have heard about people who were sick but their blood tests still came back normal.There is no way my skin can suddenly become yellow and my palms red for no absolute reason there has to be something wrong.

Posted By : ppm guy - 11/13/2013 2:07 PM
         hey Eric,   i would calm down to begin with.  stress is a killer and will effect your ability to reason with things.  drs have to filter thru patients anxiety levels to get to what info they need.  i think this is a wake up call. stay clean and sober for a couple more months and if your dr will monitor your enzymes and liver functions during that time, you may find that your liver tests are trending downward.  this is normal recovery.  it only takes a couple weeks of heavy drinking to raise your  liver inflamation.  but it takes time to recover.  for example;  last year i took 10 days of anti biotics and my alt went from 22 to 93.  i stopped the drug and it took 4 months to go back to 22.

Posted By : **David** - 11/13/2013 4:41 PM
Hi Eric,
Slow down and take it easy. Get tested in a few months and see how things look then. No more alcohol and the tests will give you a clear picture of where things stand. Stay healthy and stop worrying. If the tests are bad in the future, then you can worry.
nullum beneficium impunitum...

Posted By : Dubliner - 6/25/2014 6:37 PM
Hey your young, you intelligent enough to know there's a problem, you stopped drinking = smart, soo smarten up a Lil more and get to the Dr. All is not lost. You can't say that or think that until you now facts. I know at a young age u think u know and don't want reality told but the best is is to know truths and reality to move forward. I am 36 dude I have cirrohsis and scared like no words but I know and I soldier on day after day. I can relate, you ever want to talk message me

Posted By : A.Ziffle - 6/25/2014 7:01 PM
Dub you replied to a older post. We haven't heard from this young fellow in awhile now.

" Never try to teach a pig to sing , It wastes your time and annoys the pig . "

Posted By : Viserion - 10/2/2017 1:03 AM
I wonder what happend to him?

Posted By : MamaLama - 10/2/2017 3:48 PM
Viserion...sometimes the posters look elsewhere for support...some stick around. I've been posting here since 2010.

You wandered by...can we help? Most here have some kind of liver disease, or are their loved ones.

I am a loved partner had a liver transplant in 2011 after a many many year decline from alcoholism, Hep C, liver cancer, and acquired hemochromatosis (too much iron in the blood)...four liver diseases at the same time may be a record. Near death, he was saved by transplant...but only because his hemochromatosis resolved, he got sober, and his tumor didn't get toooo big. He is doing well. And has been cured of Hep C too.

If you want to share your story, start a new Discussion Thread.

Mama Lama
MamaLama, Forum moderator - Hepatitis
Partner received liver transplant (May 1, 2011) FL
Hep C 1a Treatment - Sovaldi/Olysio (March - May 2014)
Undetected since week 4. Undetected 12 weeks post treatment.

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