Post Traumatic Arthritis

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   Posted 10/27/2007 8:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I need to hear from others on this topic.  I need to know I'm not crazy.  I was in an auto accident 8 months ago.  A young man that had his license only 3 days was driving alone for the very first time and turned right in front of me.  There was nothing I could do, no way to not hit him.  He was fine.  I was badly brused and over the next few weeks with many doctor's appointments and xrays and eventually an MRI we discovered I had a ruptured disc in my neck.  I had surgery to remove the damaged disc, replace it with a synthetic one and the two discs were fused together.  It seemed to have helped (numbness was less, headaches gone etc.) but after about 2-3 months the numbness returned, there are shooting pains and my shoulders ache something awful.  I'm in physical therapy but it isn't helping much.  Is it possible to develop arthritis as the result of an auto accident?  I'd appreciate any thoughts on this.

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   Posted 10/30/2007 2:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello Olivia, I'm going to suppose here that you mean 2-3 months after post-surgical pain receded. As in, about when the pain caused from surgery itself had also alleviated as with your original pain. As all your pain cleared before this I can only suppose you already went through the shooting pains before, either as a result of the injury to the neck region and/or worse as a result of surgery to fix a worse pain. So having a plate put in my own neck several years ago and still suffering I can relate, but I've never had any total recession of pains at any time. Please note I also have spinal stenosis, a narrowing of the vertabrae that surround the spinal cord which affects the tension of the nerves that have to come out of the bones.

Disc's don't rupture for a car accident that didn't even leave you with whiplash (at least not mentioned) either way, you have to have another underlying disease to cause this to occur. BTW, did you bump your head on the roof? In any case, sounds like you have Degenerative Disk Disease also known as Degenerative Joint Disease and is the result of advanced Osteoarthritis. I don't know your age so I can't say if it's also premature (as in the woman in their 30's that get struck down by it) If you did bump your head on the roof, chances are you have other disc's that took some damage to and they're just beginning to let themselves be known.
Is there a chance you reinjured the tender area, it is a little soon after that kind of surgery to be doing ANYTHING heavy. Though I have heard another boast his own recovery was quick but his neck injury was also due to an accident and not disease. Every muscle in the upper torso is connected directly or indirectly to the neck, mainly via ligaments if not the muscles themselves. Therefore, even moving, pulling or picking up a heavy object could/would cause pain to regenerating tissues/muscles &/or ligaments etc. Pain also defers which means it radiates or on occasion shows up in a different place altogether but along an associated nerve path. You'll notice those shooting pains don't following along known muscle paths. They shoot around like lightning on water. Not like along a nerve as would be felt at the actual site of injury or a site of progressed disease. A muscle relaxer helps with these. Laying down has been the altime best answer but you have to stay down, because when you sit back up or stand up your time is pain, the weight of the upper parts above the traumaed area is going to put slow and steady pressure, you might feel it right away but then you might just be blessed to get to hold your head a little while.

My osteo definately hit my injured areas first. As a matter of fact, it started in the most damaged areas and worked itself into the next most damaged area and then the next and so on. However, it's been years since these injuries took place, the neck injury never recovered completely after the last trauma to it. (there were more than one). On it's natural coarse (all people would eventually get it if they lived long enough) usually osteo will start on the weight baring joints first. Knees, hips and lower back. Natural wear and tear. But there is an premature advanced kind of osteoarthritis that progresses at a younger age than normal. Spinal stenosis is a part of this disease, some people get it others don't.

I truley truley hope you don't have this disease, I'm not going to be cruel and point out it's worse case scenerio here as you have reason to believe that you've simply sensitized the area and now it's gonna b**ch till it heals. Or second worse scenerio, you have another disc that's been damaged and only an mri/exray will show it. You don't have spinal stenosis, you would had the pain of it before your accident, not to say you don't have it, but you don't have it to any degree that's causing your current pain, although, who am I to say how quickly it can develop...this I have never read in any summary of the disease.
Anyway, you'll go out there if it sticks around for 6 months or so...if it is the osteoarthritis I have.

I just cut out a whole paragraph to save you and anybody who reads this the 'getting to close syndrome'(yes even the doctor's who as humane beings don't really want to get that close-who can blame them they want to live in the "get over pain ASAP' like every other normal person- the idea of chronic pain in any of it's forms and it's repercussions on the mind and heart as a REALITY is just to easy to deny,are a little much for any human being) Whether it's chronically persistent, chronically reoccuring on movement, chronically reoccuring on inflammation. I'm sure there are more but these I am personally experienced/aware of.

Lots of love - Sandra

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   Posted 10/30/2007 3:01 AM (GMT -7)   
A correction is in order...the following sentence Is there a chance you reinjured the tender area? should of read Is there a chance you aggravated the tender area?

Also, 'out there' is a reference to losing rational reasoning...anybody can reason, but you know you got a problem when you don't know why you speculate or conjecture on possibilities rather than probabilities, reason with imagination instead of known facts and chose to seek more out if necessary, have priorities for your reasons for thinking rather than flipping through thoughts like channels you don't want to watch or learn from. Drink from the cup of humility as much as is necessary as a hypocrite poisons their own mind at the roots of reasoning. For all have things to learn. Limitations, we all have, but none know it better than those under the rule of someone or something else (body or natural conditions and repercussions). Conundrums exist in life and we have to live with both halves of such arguements that don't have one answer - Playing tug o' war with such sides of any such an issue as presents a conundrum is the same as a dog chasing it's own tail...or a man trying to dig a tunnel through a sand pile. You just can't change some effects of some causes and you are stuck doing what you don't want to do. The body has always been our worst enemy and the one thing that made us (for the most part) civilized toward one and other as we all feel pain. God bless. - Sandy

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   Posted 11/4/2007 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Olivia, 
 I broke my ankle 2 years ago.  I was in a cast for six weeks.  It took a very long time for the pain to go away completely.  Months later I woke up one morning I had a severe sore shoulder.  I could not lift it at all and it hurt to inhale deeply.  I went to the doctor and he said I had a rotator cuff injury and prescribe anti inflammatories.   It went away.  Within weeks both my ankles were hurting and the pain in my wrists was unbearable.  I went to the doctor again and he said it sounded like infectious arthritis.  He prescribed more anti inflammatories.  I came home and went online and learned that infectious arthritis can be cause by an infection from a broken bone.  I went back to the doctor and asked him about it and he gave me a referal to a Rheumatologist. That dr. said it was R/A.  I have always thougth that my broken ankle and the arthritis I have now were related.  The reason is that when I went for the bone scan in the very beginning the radiogist there said to me that my doctor would probably want to do further tests to see if their was also an ifection in the bone because she could see alot of blood pooling.  I have always right from the beginning felt that my broken ankle had something to do with my joint pain in other areas of my body.  I even said that to the Rhuematoligist when he told me to start at the beginning of when it all began.  I am currently taking 200 mg a day of doxyclyline and I am hoping that the antibiotics will fix whats ever wrong. 
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