Thank you, Capn-
Our therapist has also suggested this, especially after he has been so disruptive at my place of business, screaming not only at me and the children, but other children and customers, and my partner and her children. I have really been trying not to totally alienate him because I really want him to get help, and it is a very difficult to navigate line. It is hard to tell a man you love him, but he can't come to your work, some days you just can't talk to him, and you believe he is unsafe to be around your children. Other more intimate matters are also difficult in a separation. Divorce is more clear cut. I believe that a wife needs to support (and we are both supposedly Christian, so you have all of those constraints) and submit to her husband and all of that. It is very confusing and frustrating for me, him, and the children. I hate to just give up, but it makes little sense to try to stay with someone that you are afraid of "setting off" with a restraining order (he has said it is just papaer and wouldn't really stop him if he wanted to do something to us), or to subject the children to osmeone that the judge is so nervous around, she has armed guards when we or he goes to court for status conferences. JH's husband seems to get so into his mania, it really wouldn't affect him. This is a cruel thing, BP, when you don't know who someone will be, and you feel sorry for them, but are also afraid of them. I read your response to Missyeu, and I also wonder what is a separate issue on abuse and cruelty. Take care. We all appreciate your male point of view very much!!