is bipolar same as being crazy or insane

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carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 4:57 AM (GMT -7)   
one of two of my psychiatrists said i have this devasting horrible cruel illness.
I heard this illness is regarded as insanity or being crazy
is this true?

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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Good question!

I dunno - to me 'crazy' indicates someone who is unable to exercise good judgement, and does stuff that most reasonable people wouldn't do. For instance, because I'm crazy in love with my wife, my judgement where she is concerned is colored not by logic, but by emotion.

Insane, to me anyway, conjures images of someone raging and drooling in some Victorian asylum. I suppose you could have an insane craving for pizza, but that's about it.

I don't think we can equate bipolar with crazy or insane. Unless you're bipolar, crazy in love, and have an insane craving for pizza. ;-)

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:21 PM (GMT -7)   
i am not in love, no one would love me, dont like to eat

and am either depressed or have crazy deprssion

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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I 'spose you're half crazy then.

When I started antidepressants six or seven millennia ago, my wife and I used to refer to them as 'crazy pills'. I remember filling out one of those patient information forms at an optometrist's once. The receptionist asked what I took Cipralex for - I said "craziness". She looked somewhat uncomfortable.

Love is subjective. I think you might be surprised at who might end up loving you.

You're doing all the right stuff. Give your psychiatrists, and the meds they recommend, time to do their magic. If you keep working at getting better, eventually something is gonna stick.

You and I couldn't be more opposite when it comes to eating. I love food. Especially pastries.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:41 PM (GMT -7)   
i dont want to live any longer like this.
therapist sucks and dr won't change meds.
Please dont tell me to look for new professionals

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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay, I won't. Truthfully, wasn't going to anyway. ;-)

When you're at a crossroads like this, the last thing you need is 'Captain Obvious' telling you what is. The only person you're going to be able to count on for the next little while is yourself. You up for the challenge?

I'll be away for an hour or so, but I'd like to learn more about what's ailing you.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 12:55 PM (GMT -7)   
i have either depression or crazy depression. i am alone in this. dr wont change medication and therapy doesnt help
i am not allowed to see granddaughter. depression is contagious
i wouldnt count on me for nothing

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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Depression isn't contagious, but it sure can make everyone around us sad.

You're not totally alone in this. You found this forum. At the very least everyone here knows how crappy it is to be in your shoes, and most of us know that stuff does eventually get better.

Your doctors are doing the best they know how -try not to blame them, some of us are tougher to treat than others.

What meds are you on? I'm duloxetine for craziness (HAH!), and zolopidem for sleep.

Sorry you can't see your granddaughter, that sucks.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:12 PM (GMT -7)   
i deserve anything bad that happens to me.
I am trying to forget granddaughter. no big deal.
I am on zolfoft but does not work anymore and my dr doesnt believe in changing meds.
so much for living

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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow, you really are depressed. When I'm that far down, about the only thing I can do is live 10 seconds at a time. It's easy to make it through the next ten seconds, then all you have to do is start counting again.

The last thing you wanna hear right now is that it's going to get better, but, that said, it's going to get better. Zoloft is a tried and true drug, but antidepressants aren't magic - sometimes you still get depressed when you take them.

You in the US?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
yes in the crime ridden town of st louis where murder is common
i know i will never get better. I came close to dying last yr
i am not going to make it thur this yr

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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm in Canada where they haven't invented crime yet. ;-)

So you're stuck, eh? That sucks a lot. Do you know any people in your community around your age? It would be awesome if you could find some folks who would all agree to watch each others backs.

What happened last year? Any way to make sure it doesn't happen again?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
no i don.t i have no friends, no family that cares
i wish i could talk to minister but they are too busy

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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I just looked at pictures of St. Louis on the internet. It looks like a really pretty city. Then I read about your heat. As a Canadian, I think it should be illegal to have any temperature over 90. I seriously would melt.

Gets lonely without friends and family around. I get that. I'm sure that your minister would make time for you though. Even just for a cup of tea and a hug.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 2:55 PM (GMT -7)   
it is ugly city, lot of slums. i wont talk to minister.

i am not that desperate

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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Funny how we rate stuff in our lives. Depression sucks, but reaching out to people for help can suck even more. The only clergy I know is a dude who is married to my MIL's best friend. The guy is a real sanctimonious jerk, but I don't expect all of 'em are that way.

How close are you to the river? That's one US thing that all us Canucks learned - how to spell MISSISSIPPI.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
i live 20 miles from missisippi river

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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:16 PM (GMT -7)   
We have two rivers in Calgary, the Bow river and the Elbow river. I think the second one wins the award for the dumbest river name ever. I'm lucky enough to work close to the Bow river, and I try and get out and take a walk there during my lunch hour. I like this time of year because pretty soon the river banks will be full of little yellow goslings.

Those things are cute.

Do you have any critters that live close to you? Have you ever seen an alligator? I never have, but I think they would freak me out.

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
no animals around me at all. i am not animal person.

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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
There's only been 2 or 3 years in my life that I've been without critters. I've lived with dogs and cats, but cats are my favorite.

The cat we have now is pretty awesome because he likes to watch TV. The minute I turn the TV on, he lays down on my lap and stares at the screen. If I had to guess, I'd say his favorite show is Better Call Saul - he likes the muted colors.

What do you watch on TV?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
reruns of shows off air for years. news . pretty unentertaining
if this is all there is to life, dying will be so much better

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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:40 PM (GMT -7)   
There's always more to life, carlarenee. Sometimes it's harder to see that then other times. I know what it's like to feel that low, it's hard. But depression makes us tough - tough enough to make it through the crap times.

Ten seconds at a time.

How long you been sick?

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I would say about two yrs
Last year i was in hospital for dehydration for five days. I dont like to drink.
I had to have all kinds of tests.

They thought i was having a problem neurologically but it was dehyration.
I hope this will happen to me again
At least people care.

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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
My dad was the same - wouldn't drink anything but coffee or rum & coke. If neither was available, he literally wouldn't drink anything.

There's no denying it. Hospitals can be a safe place, I understand why you would want to go back. You don't have to be physically ill though, lot's of people, myself included, have gone because of depression.

Two years? You're just a depression newbie! Trust me when I say that you will develop coping skills that will make being depressed easier.

I'm logging off in 15 minutes. Is there anything that you would like to talk about? Sorry, I know I've been hogging the whole conversation!

carlarenee
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   Posted 4/11/2016 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
My depression started with postpartume depresion in 1985. I was never treated back then. I left and moved back to my parents with my son. I ended up with depression being in hospital. In meantime my husband got my son filed for custody and i lost custody of my son because i was a loon.

See why i think i am loser.
I have enjoyed talking.

The last two yr depression bad.
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