BP II or Borderline Personality Disorder

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Sassie and Sad
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   Posted 2/18/2006 6:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Can anyone let me know the difference??  I am trying to come off meds.  I am not doing well--I don't even know if BP II is even the right diagnosis--of course who the hell am I to make this decision??
All I know is this---I am off of Effexor completely for my second day and I feel like everything has come back--I am obsessed with my weight, I don't want to be around people, I am nervous/anxious, etc....but I don't know if this is just me adjusting to being off that particular med or what...I mean I am still on 20 mg. of Lexapro and 150 or Lamictal.....and came off the Effexor very slowly under a dr. care.................................................I don't know what is going oon--what is normal, what is med, what is in my head,,,,,,what I have read too much about and now think it may be...just somebody please help me....

Ellie 1
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   Posted 2/18/2006 10:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so sorry it's going so badly for you right now. I'm not comming off meds, but going on, and am experiencing some difficulty myself.
Was your doctor able to shed any light on whats going on with you? It sounds miserable.
I just wanted you to know, that while I have no answers, we do care here at healingwell. Sometimes posting helps, just knowing someone else is out there who has or is going through something similar can make you feel less alone.
Here for you
Take Care
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   Posted 2/19/2006 6:37 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sad and Sassie,  I am sorry that you are having a difficult time right now.  I was wondering if your physician has said or ever mentioned that you have BPD as a diagnosis?  Bipolar Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder are two totally differant diagnosis.  They are not even closely related.  For a person to receive a diagosis of BPD they have to have a long history of instabillity.  Since you asked I dug out my DSM IV book and have posted the criteria for diagnosis:

A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior.

2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior.

5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.

6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)

7. chronic feelings of emptiness

8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)

9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms



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