Posted 10/10/2006 10:03 AM (GMT -7)
sparker said...
Phew.. nearly screwed up the saliva test order. I clicked to the link, and quickly read how you said the one with 5 tests... so I saw the first one had 5 tests and then ordered it (Hormone Profile I).

Luckily I went back to the link and saw the bottom Adrenal test and was able to call and change it. Doh.

 
LOL!!!! Yeah, that would have been funny.  Yeah, the adrenal one is the one you want.  They're also very responsive via email.  I emailed them 3 days after I mailed it, to make sure they got it back.  The package is semi big for the drop off mail, and I was worried.  They emailed me back that day telling me it had arrived and that it was being process. 
 
The results are great.  The show you your levels, and what they should be.  They then do a complete write from a doctor on what he see based of your info on your test and symtpoms that you submit.  Trust me, it's worth the money.  I'm going to submit mine to my insurance for poop's and giggles to see if they'll cover it.
Suffering from Adrenal Fatigue (confirmed by Saliva test)

Multivitamin
6000mg of Vitamin C daily
800mg of Vitamin E
1000mg of Vitamin B5
100mg of vitamin B6
Adrenal Extracts
DHEA (50mg)
Isocort (10 mg) 4 times a day. ---I can no longer take this, due to my reaction to Echinacia root (caused a serious rash)

Posted 10/16/2006 2:28 PM (GMT -7)
Well, I received the adrenal fatigue book a couple of days ago and began reading. It's somewhat of a confusing book in that the information is never really summarized in specifics... most specifically, I wish he'd have gone into more detail on what the diet should be.

I started the vitamins and supplements as well. So far, no positive or negative effects yet. Too early I imagine for anything positive to happen.

Still waiting for the saliva test, it should be here today I'm hoping.
10/16/2006 Status :
Saliva test kit should arrive any day now.
10/13: Started reading book on adrenal fatigue.
10/12: Started taking (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg of Vitamin C  --- 800mg of Vitamin E
1000mg of Vitamin B5 --- 100mg of vitamin B6
400mg of Megnesium   --- 50mg of DHEA

Posted 10/16/2006 2:33 PM (GMT -7)
Nope, I agree... however the diets are pretty simple.



Proteins (Red meat, chicken, fish, eggs, protein powders)

Carbs (Rolled oats, long grain brown rice, lentils, yams, 100% whole wheat breads)

Fats (Nuts, all natural PB/almond butter) olive oil.

Eat tones of veggies, and try to stick to fruits that don't have a high amount of natural sugar.



www.nutritiondata.com is an awesome resource. I use to use it all the time when dieting and lifting.



Yeah, the supplements are just going to aid. It's not something you're going to see over night, nor probably in the next few months. Allow time, and remain positive. How's the exercise coming along?

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Posted 10/18/2006 8:07 AM (GMT -7)
Thanks for the site link, I'm making a shopping list for this weekend and what foods I'm going to buy and try to get some meals planned. I'm not exactly a great cook, so my meals (like last night) consisted of chicken on the grill and a can of green beans. I need to start munching on veggies while I'm at work, that would be a way of getting them in.

The exercise is tough. Right now I've been doing some yard work preparing for winter, so that has been my exercise for the last week or so, but I only last about an hour before I'm pretty much whipped.

My saliva test arrived yesterday, so I'm taking it through today.
10/18/2006 Status :
10/18: Taking saliva test today.
10/13: Reading book on adrenal fatigue.
10/12: Taking the following (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg of Vitamin C  --- 800mg of Vitamin E
1000mg of Vitamin B5 --- 100mg of vitamin B6
400mg of Megnesium   --- 50mg of DHEA

Posted 10/18/2006 10:49 AM (GMT -7)
Awesome!


Just remember, just because you have to eat healthy, doesn't mean it has to be boring. You don't need to be a good cook to eat right and have it taste good. Do some research on line and see some healthy recipies. Most of what you'll find is going to be portion control, and healthy foods.



That's great. You should have answers within 2 weeks then. just remember not to eat 2 hours before doing each test.

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Posted 10/20/2006 12:03 PM (GMT -7)
Well, this weekend will be the big push to get and cook the right foods.

I sent the saliva test stuff back, so now I just have to wait for the results.

Today, I'm dragging BIG TIME. I think being a software developer has to be the absolute worst job to have with this ailment. Sitting all day is horrible. I find I have to get up and move around every 30 minutes minimum just to stay somewhat awake and alert. Today I'm struggling to make it to 3:30 PM so I can duck out early and go home to sleep. ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH. I hate this feeling.

The sad thing is most people are looking forward to Friday night so they can go out and do whatever with their friends. I haven't had that thought for coming on 5 years now. I hope to just make it through the day and then get home for some sleep.
10/20/2006 Status :
Awaiting saliva test results.
Reading book on adrenal fatigue.
Taking the following (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg of Vitamin C  --- 800mg of Vitamin E
1000mg of Vitamin B5 --- 100mg of vitamin B6
400mg of Megnesium   --- 50mg of DHEA

Posted 10/20/2006 12:38 PM (GMT -7)
It's amazing how alike we are.

I too sit all day long infront of my machines. I don't create software, just fix network/server issues. I too need to get up and move around. It's part of the reason I started smoking again, which is very hard to resist now :-(



I'm right there with you dude. All I want to do is go out with my friends and hang out, or take my wife out somewhere, but I'm do darn tired. I'm be catching up on some certification work when I get home, but it's so hard to read and concentrate, when all I want to do is fall asleep.

I'm really looking forward to your saliva test. I pray this brings you great news, as it did for me!

Take care,

-O-
Posted 10/24/2006 7:44 AM (GMT -7)

A friend's wife gave me a copy of some pages from a medical book that talked about what nutrients and herbs to take for assisting adrenal recovery - so not strictly adrenal fatigue, but simply strengthening the adrenal glands.  The following items were in it, some of I was already taking, some I'm now considering after I check some more.

For nutrients, it said the essential items were a B complex (100mg of each major B twice daily) and vitamin C (4,000-6,000mg daily in divided doses).

Items marked very important were Coenzyme A (which I've never heard of) and L-Tyrosine (500mg daily on empty stomach with water or juice - not with milk - take with 50mg of B6 and 100mg of C for better absorption).

Important items were raw adrenal glandular and raw adrenal cortex glandular.  Huh.

Helpful items were multivitamin with at least the following: calcium 1500mg, magnesium 750mg, natural beta-carotene 15,000 IU, copper 3mg, potassium 200mg and zinc 50mg.  In addition, Coenzyme Q10, chlorophyll, raw liver extract and SAMe (do not use SAMe if manic-depressive disorder or taking prescription antidepressants).

The recommendations it mentions are: fresh fruit and vegetables, especially green leafy ones, brewers yeast, brown rice, legumes, nuts, olive and saflower oils, seeds, wheat germ and whole grains.

Eat deep-water ocean fish, salmon or tuna a least 3x a week.  Include in diet garlic, onions, craptake mushrooms, pearl barley (which contain germanium).

Avoid alcohol, caffeine, tobacco - which are highly toxic to the adrenal and other glands.

Stay away from fats, fried foods, ham, pork, highly processed foods, red meats, sodas, sugar and white flour.  These put unnecessary stress on adrenal glands.

Get regular, moderate exercise.

As much as possible, avoid stress.  Continuous and prolonged stressfrom marriage, job, illness and feelings of low self-esteem or loneliness can be detrimental to adrenal glands.

Anyways, much of which I kinda knew, but some new pieces I didn't know.


10/20/2006 Status :
Awaiting saliva test results.
Reading book on adrenal fatigue.
Taking the following (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg of Vitamin C  --- 800mg of Vitamin E
1000mg of Vitamin B5 --- 100mg of vitamin B6
400mg of Megnesium   --- 50mg of DHEA

Posted 10/24/2006 8:27 AM (GMT -7)
My problem is now, I need to quit smoking.


I also refuse to stop eating Red meat. I don't think having it a few times a week in small portions will kill your progress, but we shall see. I'm going to do another saliva test here in another few months to gauge my progress.
Posted 10/24/2006 8:54 AM (GMT -7)
Yup, the smoking thing is gonna be hard - but in the long run it'll pay off. I'm with ya on the red meat thing - that's something I can reduce but not entirely eliminate. I'm going to try and increase my fish consumption though.

I am thinking about adding some other supplements, namely L-Tyrosine, CoQ10 and Niacin. Then because I'm not taking any adrenal extracts, looking to add ADRENergize. I realize I'm throwing the kitchen sink in many ways at this, but I've spent a hell of a lot more money in doctors and therapists over the years with zero return on that, so this doesn't bother me.
10/24/2006 Status :
Awaiting saliva test results.
Reading book on adrenal fatigue.
Taking the following (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg/Vitamin C        800mg/Vitamin E
1000mg/Vitamin B5       100mg/vitamin B6
 400mg/Magnesium         50mg/DHEA
 450mg/Licorice Root

Posted 10/24/2006 9:40 AM (GMT -7)
yeah, it's going to be hard. As soon as I get done my weight loss contest here in 3 weeks, I'm giving it up for good. Right now, it's just hard. When the contest is over (which I'm winning), I won't be concered with eating extra. I shouldn't have entered into this, but it's $500 for the winner, and I'm way in the lead.


I would do some research on taking lots of supps. Might be doing more harm than good. I would atleast take them at different points in the day. I spread my stuff throughout the day.



Still waiting on your results?
Posted 10/24/2006 9:47 AM (GMT -7)
Yeah.. still waiting on saliva test results. I'm kinda worried though because the day I took the test was one of my best energy days I've had in about a month, so hopefully that won't skew my results.

Yeah.. I'm starting to spread out my supplements. Right now I'm taking pretty much what you're taking, and I'm not experiencing any issues (except one day when I took them on nearly an empty stomach - ugh).
I'm going to add anything from this point one at a time so if there's any issues I know what did it.

Everyone at work here thinks I'm crazy when they see me pull out this huge load of pills and pop them. It does look pretty funny though with all the pills.
10/24/2006 Status :
Awaiting saliva test results.
Reading book on adrenal fatigue.
Taking the following (in addition to multivitamin):

4000mg/Vitamin C        800mg/Vitamin E
1000mg/Vitamin B5       100mg/vitamin B6
 400mg/Magnesium         50mg/DHEA
 450mg/Licorice Root

Posted 10/24/2006 11:36 AM (GMT -7)
LOL.. yeah I get those looks too.


Don't worry about the energy boost. Were you still a little fatigues and felling bad that day? Even if you did have high energy, it probably wasn't the best, which will still show on your results.
Posted 10/25/2006 9:12 AM (GMT -7)
Sparker,


How's your neck? Stiff/sore? Worse in the morning?

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