I whole heartily agree with you PAlady but far too many times we as CPers get convinced we are "addicted" to opiates and I have learned carefully to get more info before I ever say someone suffering from pain issues are addicted. Many times it is simply a factor of them being way way undertreated for their pain issues. As for meeting criteria for addiction problems I bet none of us would be turned away from any treatment program since the majority of those think any long term use of opiates is an addiction?
Hence my reasons for walking softly in this thread yesterday as I didnt want to say too much without first knowing what and who convinced April she was an addict. I only wished to know how she arrived at that conclusion before I said anymore on the subject.
And she came back and answered the questions.
It also seems she is looking for reassurance that she is clean and sober on SubX and that's a question I cant begin to answer for her. I have to first establish in my mind that she was addicted and not searching for a way out of pain in all fairness and I am not convinced yet she was is an addict simply because she took more then prescribed and ran out and bought on the street? I will be brutally honest here with you. If I was cut-off tomorrow or for whatever reason my pain got unmanageable can I honestly say that I would sit there and suffer needlessly knowing there are ways to obtain meds to stop that horrific pain? Sorry to disapppoint but I have to be on the up and up here in all fairness to anyone else and myself. You bet I would at some point in my suffering. Does that qulaify me as addicted to narcotics or simply searching for a way NOT suffer?
Thus the reason I was tiptoeing around her post. I just cant being myself to lable her a addict without more info then provided, I have heard time and time again from medical persons,family,S.O's, RPH's, of how patients in pain managemtn are addicts how any of us taking opiates for years and years to treat pain that others have and dont have to take anything are just addicts! I know there are fine lines that border this issue but frankly I see very few CPers crossing it. Those I have seen are the ones that are searching for that ultimate high adding a mix of street drugs,snorting,banging,using alcohol to enahncement of meds,these are the fine folks I honestly can say have a problem that needs to be addressed and yes there are some of them in the mix of pain management and I was trying to see if April fit that mold or not before I attempted to answer anymore questions regarding being clean and sober.
I am not talking around youhere April by any means and I think if you fit the bill for addiction you certainly have done a tremendous job of following thru with a plan,not an easy feat for anyone and especially for a CPer. I think you deserve that proverbial pat on the back for you have made it when others have not. Addiction is one of the hardest battles to overcome and even if you slip back and forth a time or two no one can say you have not done a great job in handling it.
It hasnt been too many years ago that in this state the "drug wars" wrecked havoc on the PM clinics and Doctors that were attempting to treat CPers. The Oxy hype went way beyond here in the South and the agencies shut and locked doors of those clnics and Docs stating they were overprescribing the meds that the company had deemed safe and wasnt. The Reps convinced far too many Doctors that this med was a great alternative to the older ones and offered up prescribing incentives that were unimagianbale to most. Those Doctors woke up one day to a altogether different story from the DEA and Police agencies and thousands of CPers were left with no recourse whatsoever and turned to the methadone clinics and were forced to seek treatment of addiction anyway and anywhere they could get it. I imagine if one could do a thorough search one would find many of those accidental overdoses was directly related to a CPer attempting to medicate themselves after being shut off from their legal means of getting relief. I know of two and that is two too many in my book and my small area of the world.
All the more reason I back up and seek as much info as I can before I engage in a labeling of anyone.
More to the point is April if you believe you had a problem then you are getting help for that problem and if your following your Docs guidelines and doing the proper things to achieve the best outcome for yourself then yes I think you can say " I am clean and sober" dont be upset when others think you arent because of the SubX use,you have extenuating circumstances that others are not faced with.
Good luck to you and I hope all continues to go well for you.
Bilateral knee replacements,spondylosis of L-3,4,5 and S-1, osteoarthritis,premenopausal migraines.
Meds: Methadone,xanax,zanaflex,maxide,prempro,K+,indocin,lexapro,neurontin(coming off) lyrica(going onto)