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Date Joined Jun 2009
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   Posted 6/9/2009 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I am going to meet with a pm dr tomorrow and I have been on 5mg lortab for two years and now they only last about an hour for some relief.I have had 3 rotator cuff surgeries and have lost 40% use of my rt arm so now what should i expect with my first pm visit?what should i ask for to get me out of pain?I am at my wits end with this I can't swim or golf with my son so I want myarm back without pain.Since thats not possible can some one tell me some thing to help me?

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Date Joined Jul 2005
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   Posted 6/9/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   

I can really feel your pain on this one. I tore my rotator cuff and had to have surgery about 3 years ago. And as it would have it I tore it the opposite direction that "normal" people do. I got along well and have had no trouble. about 5 months ago I had a bad fall at my daughters house. It was really sore as was my hip on that side. I waited about 6 weeks and then went to my orthopedic surgeon who took and x-ray and it looked good but he gave me a steroid injection in my hip and shoulder. The shoulder never really got any better but I didn't mention it because I've had so many surgeries and illness I thought.......oh here we go again! Well it got so bad that I called the doc and I have to have an MRI this week. I probably retore it and will have to have surgery again. I've had both knees replaced and had 4 spinal surgeries. I tried getting in the pool today with my granddaughter and it was pure murder. I know just how you feel. Wouldn't it be nice to get a break sometime? I know that God does not give us more than we can handle but I am getting a little weary. I sure hope you get some help and can enjoy your precious son. I wish you good luck and a day without so much pain.



Degenerative disc disease,osteoarthritis, status post 4 cervical spinal surgeries with plate insertions and fusion, Lupus, Sjogren's Disease, Fibromyalgia, chronic heacaches and chronic pain.

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Date Joined Mar 2008
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   Posted 6/9/2009 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi 10ecman,

Welcome to the CP board of HW! This is a great place to come to receive and give support as well as experiences. We are a very close knit group, and love to have new members (although we always are sad to see another person in pain) While none of us are doctors, together, we have a great wealth of knowledge from our shared experiences with pain of all types. However, our experiences & advice should never replace that of a doctor. That being said, on to your questions, etc.

First, let me say that I am so, so sorry to hear about your shoulder pain. Boy can I understand that one!!! I myself have had 3 shoulder surgeries as well, as I basically destroyed both of my shoulders while swimming competitively. I swam at the senior national level & was at the top of my division. But unfortunately I was forced to stop because of my shoulders. They always tell you to just "swim through the pain." But what they never tell you is that "swimming through the pain" will destroy your body. Instead coaches ought to tell you to "listen to your body & if it hurts, there is a good reason why, so take it easy!" Fortunately for me, my shoulders aren't the major source of my pain anymore. They still bother me from time to time, and there are certain movements that I cannot (as well as some that I am not allowed, nor ever will be allowed) to do, to this day (I'm 3 years out from the last surgery - I had my first at just 15 years old & my last at 18). Swimming is one of those things that I can no longer do & I miss it terribly. It was not an easy road, getting to where I am today, though. I had many set backs & re-injuries, and persistent pain. It took me a minimum of a year and a half after each surgery for my shoulder to feel halfway normal. Despite going to one of the best shoulder surgeon's in the country, my shoulders still are not normal & never will be. I am still afraid that they will limit my ability to pursue the career I working towards, but right now, I'm just thankful that they no longer hurt me 24/7 (although I have been "blessed" with a whole different source of pain smhair).

Here is an except from the post that I wrote to another new-commer the other week regarding pain management:

As for pain management. There have been many threads about pain management & pain management physicians, etc in the past. You may want to search through some of these -- just hit the search button in the control panel & type in a key word, such as pain management. We often use the abbreviation "PM" to mean pain management, pain management clinic, pain management program, clinic, etc, as fits with the context. Most of us here are patients at PM clinics, although for some of us (me included), another doc, such as our "pcp" (primary care physician) or neurosurgeon has taken charge of our PM.

Your doctors may have already told you that many, if not most PM clinics only accept new patients with a referral (this was the case with mine, during the time in which I was a patient at a PM clinic). Ideally, you want to see a PM physician who is board certified in pain medicine. Often times, these are anesthesiologists or neurologists that have continued their training to specialize or become board certified in PM. Some practices also employ nurse practitioners & physician assistants, who you may see once you have established a plan with your PM doctor. That being said, not all PM clinics are equal. Some only do pain relieving procedures (injections, nerve blocks, etc), whereas other do both procedures AND prescribe medication. Ideally you want a clinic that does both. Different medications are used for pain, and likely, you will be put on a combination of medication. Examples of classes of medications used in pain management are anti-depressants (such as cymbalta and amitriptylene/elavil) - these anti-depressants are known to reduce nerve pain, anti-seizure medication (such as gabapentin/neurontin and lyrica) is also commonly used to treat nerve pain, muscle relaxants (such as zanaflex, which in addition to helping musclar pain, is also known reduce the amount of pain signals received by the brain), and opioids (your "traditional" pain medication, such as morphine & oxycodone). If you are prescribed an opioid medication, you are generally required to sign a "pain contract." The details of which vary slightly from PM to PM, but these contracts basically state the "rules" which you must follow in order to take this medication. Depression & sleep problems are very common with CP, so your PM may start you on medication for this as well.

Generally, before PM's resort to long term opioid use, they first exhaust all other options, including other medications & non-invasive procedures. At the time in which you are placed on opioids, depending on the nature of your pain, you may be prescribed both a long acting medication, and a short acting medication for "break through" pain.

I think this covers just about everything, but I'm sure others will be by to welcome you & add some more thoughts! Good luck & keep posting with us!

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