I take Suboxone, which is Subutex but with naloxone in it, and it isnt a happy pill to me, it helps my pain enough so I can function and live life somewhat normally. Subutex/Suboxone is prescribed off label for depression and pain but is only FDA approved for narcotic dependence, does this person have a diagnosis of dependence or is he using it off label for pain? When it's used for pain it's usually prescribed in low doses, about
1-2 mg every 4-6 hours, and for dependence it can be anywhere from 0.5mg or less to as high as 32 mg daily(this is the usual but every person and doctor is diffrent in prescribing but this is what the makers of these pills recommend). I was taking 24mg daily and right now I'm taking 16mg daily (one 8mg pills every 12 hours) and I have absoutly no side effects, no unusual happiness, no depression, it just helps my pain and that's it, it does make me sleepy but all narcotics do this. And I know doctors use Subutex for people who cant handle the Suboxone, cause Suboxone can cause stomach pain and headaches and some people are just allergic to the naloxone ( eventhough the body doesnt absorbe it in a way to cause withdrawals when it's used right, naloxone is only effective if abused), maybe he just cant handle the main ingredient buprenorphine, are you sure he isnt using other pain meds on top? Cause that can cause some bad reactions.
I'm sorry, but I just dont know what to tell you, and if the doctor cant help, then it maybe time to find someone else. And if this person wont go to another doctor or figure out whats going on, then maybe it's time for your friend to reevaluate what she needs and doesnt need in her life.....
All I can tell you is that what his person has going on is NOT what is going on with me, and remember that Subutex/suboxone is 25 times stronger then morphine so he's taking equals about
100mg daily of morphine, buprenorphine is one of the strongest pain meds out there.
PS, if you go the NAABT websight, they have a forum called "addiction survivors" for people just taking Suboxone and Subutex and they can help you more out there then here, Nancy is a great person there and she knows everything aobut these 2 meds inside out. We have wonderful people here too, but besides me, we just dont get many people on these meds.
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