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AF chica
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   Posted 9/22/2010 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I am not sure if something has already been posted about there but there are a lot of forums to go throuh so if there is i am sorry. I am 24 years old and i have a Herniated disc in my lower back along with DDD and tearing in the thecal sack. I have been in pain for almost 2yrs. I have been to the nuero surgeon, pain specialist, chiropractor and nothing has helped me the pain meds that i have been on dont do anything they wont do surgery since i am only 24 and i dont know what to do anymore. I am always feeling depressed or upset. I can't do my job anymore which i loved to do but that is how i injured myself in the first place. The only thing that really helps is heat but that just relaxs it. but i can't keep a heating pad on me at all times. does anyone have any suggestions?

White Beard
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   Posted 9/22/2010 10:20 PM (GMT -6)   
AF chica

Welcome to Healing Well Chronic Pain Forum, Yes I think you have found the right place to be. I am sorry that you are having so much pain, What you have described is no fun at all! Your age is definitely a factor on doing back surgery. But what have they prescribed for you to get rid of the pain that you ar having? Do you have a job that requires allot of lifting or putting allot of strain on your back? It pretty much sounds like you have been to all the regular places for treatment. If that is not helping then maybe something else needs to be done. Possibly going to a different doctor or spinal surgeon for a second oppinoin? I wish I had some better answers for you, I will tell you that you are not alone with having back and spinal pain, I am sure that others will be along with alllot of other suggestions, But is certainly seems like something needs to be done for you! Have you tried rotating hot packs and ice on your back and also trying to do stretching exercises? Doesn;t your pain specialist have you on anything to control your pain?

I do wish you well AF chica and I hope that things work out for you!

White Beard
Moderator Chronic Pain
After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

AF chica
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   Posted 9/22/2010 11:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I used to be a weapons loader on the B-52 and lifting the bomb bay doors is what caused my back problem in the the first place and it doesn't help that I am a very petite girl either. I couldn't even begin to tell you all the medications I've been on I think in the past yr I have been on almost 15-20 diff medications. Some worked but I had a side effect to them others didn't do a thing for me. Its all on my tricare file online. My disc issue is my L5-S1.

tmjpain
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   Posted 9/23/2010 3:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Like WB said I think a second opinion would be good? Did you try physiotherapy? Can you wear a low back brace for support for the time being? Have you had an MRI done? If it is severe enough then I would think that surgery is the best option even if you are only 24. The longer you weight your problem will only get worse right? Are you still working? Where do you live?
 
More people will be by as well to comment on this. I haven't had experience in the area.
 
But I do wish  you well and I welcome you to the Chronic Pain board. You will meet some wonderful people here and you will want to come back here to post every day!! LOL
 
Know that we care about you and we wish you well!!
 
Come back soon ok.
 
yeah   yeah
SUZANE

One day at a time!!

damouthy1
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   Posted 9/23/2010 5:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi AFChica and welcome to Healing well. I don't have any experience with back pain or injuries, but I did want to welcome you! The members here are great and so very supportive. I hope you keep posting, it helps to know that you are not alone. Take care.
Gentle Hugs,
Shannon

Fibromyalgia, Chronic daily headaches, Migraines, Possible Graves Disease, GERD, High blood pressure, Depression and Anxiety

Oxycontin, Lopressor, Lexapro, Omeprazole, Promethazine as needed for nausea, Ventolin inhaler and Vitamin D3

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 9/23/2010 7:29 AM (GMT -6)   

 

   Hello AF!

    Welcome to the CP forum!

   Yes!...there are quite a few of us with lumbar back problems. I had a double Lumbar Fusion back in March of this year, and am still in the recovery process.

   A couple of questions! Are you still in the Military?.....and if it dosen't bother you, what type of med, and dosage are you on at this time.

    There are several meds that may give you some relief. At the moment I'm taking 7.5 Ocycodone (Percocet) X4 a day. It helps to take the edge off, but I still suffer some pain.

    One thing I might suggest, is to keep your back muscles stretched, by doing some sort of PT. Of course, this should be suggested under a Dr's care, since we are not Dr's here.

      It has been my experience, that one of the worst things I could do is just lay around all day long, and let my muscles go to mush.

      I have to agree, with others here, that you may indeed, have to see another Dr, for a second opinion. Yes you are young, but, if there are no other options.....and I mean NO Other Options!.....then surgery may be in your near future.

      Also, have you tried Epidural's? Were you medically discharged from the Military? Sorry for all the questions, but the more we know about you, then maybe one of our members will be able to suggest a better direction for you.

         Take care, and we look forward to hearing more from you.

    One more thing! If you worked with the B-52.....I built many of the Rotary Launchers for the Cruise Missiles. It was quite the project to say the least. That was back in the late 80's if I remember right. Not sure though, as it has been so long ago, and I live in the pain med fog these days. wink     

      SE wink

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 9/23/2010 11:12:57 AM (GMT-6)


spinal soldier
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   Posted 9/23/2010 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
hey AF chica, first let me give you my most sincerest gratitude for serving in the armed forces and protecting us here at home, you deserve the best medical care known to man. when i was 23 i herniated L5,S1 disk and bulged L4,L5 and L3,L4. to say it was a life-changing shock was a understatment, but now i believe everything happens for a reason. like you i went through the whole line-up of primary/urgent care doctor to physical therapy, and then to a orthopedic surgeon who i did not like at all; after looking at my MRI and explaining the disk problems he asked me if i have tried Alieve. i have got to say i didn't know how to answer that. my primary care doctor had me on a steroid pack, flexeril, and tylox 5/500. these medications did not put a dent in the pain. i asked the goofball if he could operate or do anything to get me out of pain and he described a horrifying procedure going trhough my stomach to fuse my vertebrea. that did not sound right to me and i told him i'll have to think about it. he sent me home with 60# darvocet which were useless for my needs. so my primary gave me tylox for a few weeks 30# at a time [first time i ever had taken a painkiller and they didn't touch it.] and i told him i was seeking out a spine surgeon on my own. the one i was confident with was a former naval orthopedic surgeon who got some medal for trauma surgery in vietnam. it just so happened the first orthopedic surgeon i saw worked in the naval doctors practice after he was a civilian and he told me he was a poor surgeon who could care less if his patients where in pain, so he got rid of him. i liked this ortho because he was arrogant and carried himself with confidence. i asked him straight up; if i get the surgery [laminectomy] now when i am 24, would i have a better chance of a good recovery? he said absolutely yes. then i said it scared me about going in the stomach and he said what are you talking about, who told you that? it goes to show you always need multiple opinions about spine surgery. so he sent me home with 120# demerol [brand name was insisted] 100mg, 120 soma 350mg, and vistaril 50mg 120# to prevent nausea from the demerol and help it work better. he did a great surgery and said when he opened me up i was worse than the MRI showed. he got me out of pain and i was good for about 5 years until i hurt my back again in a boating accident. long story short i got one of the best neurosurgeons to fuse L4-S1. that was a good surgery also. my previous surgeon had passed away or i would have let him do it but i think the neurosurgeon was about the best around. out of all spine surgeons; like any other profession ther are a lot of half-a**ed ones some bad ones and very few great ones, you have got to look and do research on them. if you are stationed near norfolk VA, i can tell you some good ones. good luck, i'm praying you get completly healed.
L4,L5,S1 bilateral Laminectomies, Foraminotomies 2002
L4-S1 PLIF with instumentation 2008,

current Rx: OxyContin 60mg 2x, Dilaudid 8mgs [brand] 4x p.r.n. brk., Phenergan 25mg 3x prn nausea, Lyrica 75mg 2x,Adderall 20mgs 1x A.M., Soma 350 mg 3X, Relafen 1000mg 1x, Klonopin 1mg H.S. or prn anxiety Supplements: CO-Q10 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Fish-Oil1000mg EFA, B-Complex50 3x/day, GABA 750mg

antbuggey
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   Posted 9/23/2010 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear AF Chica,
Welcome to our forum! I am sorry for the reasons you had to seek us out but you are in a very good place! Also, thank you for serving our Country!

I had a back injury 3 1/2 years ago and have, pretty much, suffered ever since. My problems are from L3 - S1 and basically my only option right now is pain meds. I take sustained release morphine - 60 mg, 3X a day and Cymbalta. They are just taking the edge off now...if that! Mine problems now are most likely because of RA, but I am still waiting for a doctor to decide that is the problem and get me on the proper meds! I am scared of back surgery myself, but I would certainly seek a second or even a third opinion. You are too young to not try and fix the problem, if possible! Although it does not make it easier, please know that depression is very common with CP. Both Cymbalta and Lyrica are anti-depressants that help with the nerve pain associated with back and other injuries. Have you tried either one of those?

Anyway, keep us updated and take care of you!

Hugs,
Beckey
Spinal Stenosis L3/L4, L4/L5 & L5/S1 with Nerve Impingement, Fibromyalgia, TMJ, GERD, Severe Depression, VERY Large Cyst Right Ovary causing mild twisting, Small Cysts Left Ovary & 3 Large Cysts Uterus and Possible RA

Medications - MS-Contin, Cymbalta, Famotidine and currently Prednisone

straydog
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   Posted 9/23/2010 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello AF Chica and I too would like to welcome you to Healing Well's chronic pain forum. As you can see there are quite a few of here with pain of some type. We all have a different story to tell as to what led us to this forum, but one thing we all have in common is chronic pain. It can be comforting to know that you are not alone because many times pain makes us feel this way.

I see all of us here pretty much agree you need to seek a second opinion. That is not uncommon at all, many of us have seen several different drs trrying to find the right one that will take an interest in our health and be willing to help us.Just because the other drs seem to have blown you off does not mean you have to accept that. Many times we find we must advocate for our own self to get the necessary care needed. It never hurts to get another opinion regardless. You stated that you have been on many different medications in the past and either side effects or an allergy has been a big obstacle. Well, there are lots and lots of different meds out there you just need a good dr to know what ones to try and what combinations to use. As far as going out and buying a back brace I would not do that unless directed by a dr to do so. Now they claim using a back brace is not good for individuals because the back muscles become weak from wearing one and that is the last thing you need to happen. Strong back muscles are a must to good back care.

I do hope you will consider seeing another dr because it sounds like your quality of life is in the toilet and everyone deserves better than that. You are far too young to have to live in the pain you have described. Take care and I hope you will keep us posted on how you are doing.

Susie

Post Edited (straydog) : 9/23/2010 2:58:08 PM (GMT-6)


Morgoth
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   Posted 9/23/2010 3:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello AF Chica.

Welcome to the club. I have some idea about what you're going through. Don't have that many back troubles myself, but I know military healthcare; it either rules or sucks, no in-betweens. Could you answer the following please. Are you still in the Service? If so, still at your original posting (I guess that'll be Barksdale or Minot)? Or you on sick leave?

Trouble is, although I'm not quite sure, it is possible you can't ask for a second opinion. If you're still in the service, and they should recomment you leave on medical grounds, don't do so; you'll get screwed financially. If you want me to, I can make some inquiries. Should you prefer to contact me directly, feel free to do so at Sceptre@Skynet.be. The Air Force has to stick together.

Should tell you though the guys (and ladies of course) on this forum are great. Tell them what's on your mind, just talking about your problems (and realizing others are often way worse then we ourselves), makes you feel a little better.

Take care and Good Hunting.
To stand and be still at the Birkenhead Drill is a mighty bullet to shew.

couchtater
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   Posted 9/23/2010 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I know the pain of L5-S1 issues. I feel for you. I just got told the other day my disk looked squashed. The butt spasms are the worse. :(
Joy

AF chica
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   Posted 9/23/2010 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had an MRI done it was done last March and haven't had another since. I was told a brace is a bad idea since it condtricts me. I am still working i am currently at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.
I am currently on flector patches for my back and they dont do much for me. I have been on a lot of meds i just went on tricare to see what i have been on but i can't access it right now.
I am so stuck i don't know what to do. I refuse to do injections since i have talked to a lot of people here about them and i have not heard anything good yet. I am sick of constantly taking meds and either they work and i have a reaction to them or they dont work. i just want something that works. When i take long drives the heated seats in my car help out a lot. but i can't bring a heating pad into work all the time.

Morgoth
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   Posted 9/23/2010 7:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Know the feeling. I'm on Morphine derivatives for 25 yeazrs now. Currently on morphine itself, the only thing that
takes of the edge of the pain. Truth is, painkillers don't actually kill the pain, none of them do (unlkess the
white coats dope you up like a zombie). I had epidural injections and they didn't work for me. THey did wonders
though for my father and late grandmother. I would give it a try if I were you. Worst case scenario, you're really
sick for a couple of days. Best case scenario: you're relatively pain-free for a couple of weeks/months, depending
on the exact drug being used, your pain level and the amount injected.

As for the Flector Patches, they are generally considered to be of little or no value in case of severe back pain
(I'm in Belgium, not in the US). We use Fentanyl Patches here, much more effective but much heavier and more
addictive. Air Force protocols dictate the use of strong pain medication should be limited as much as possible due
to the addictive nature of the products.

Personally, I would opt for the injections first. If they don't work, I'd try to get a doc OK surgery. You're
still young, you have your entire live before you. Obviously the pain isn't going to disappear all by itself since
you've had it for two years. With no improvement whatsoever, your current condition should justify surgery. That's
the best advice I can give you.

I know how you feel, I truly do. But you got to hang in there. We are in need of skilled personnel and we are at
war. Once you have recovered, and you will recover sooner or later, we'll need you back on the job.

Take care.
To stand and be still at the Birkenhead Drill is a mighty bullet to shew.

White Beard
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   Posted 9/23/2010 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
AF chica
 
Do I understand correctly that you are still on active duty? If you are then that really limits you allot. If you are still active duty then you need to  have the AF send you to a good military medical center that does back and spinal surgeries and have them take a  good look at you!
 
I was stationed at Eielson AFB (four year tour) I spent close to three months at Eielson  getting the run around by Air Force and Army doctors. And they darn near killed me, or at the minimum close to paralyzing me! I finally got them to send me down to Anchorage to Elemendorf AFB and even then I had to pound my fist on a majors (neurologist) desk  down there, to get him to do the proper test on me. Well he  finally agreed and sent me back to Eielson and had me come back in 7 days, for a myelogram, in the middle of the myelogram the radiologist was freaking out, and they rushed me by ambulance to Humana Hospital in Anchorage or an MRI and to see a Neurosurgeon, they thought I had a massive tumor that was displacing my cervical spine, but in reality it was a massive herniated disk at C-6/7 with free floating fragment in my spinal canal. The neurosurgeon could not  understand why I wasn't a quadriplegic, and why I could even move my arms and walk and talk. They  ended up doing  emergency surgery there at Humana, I spent eight days in that hospital,  They ended up doing and ACDF on me, they took  out the disk and  all the fragments and then took the bone from my hip as a graft and put it where the disk was and fused it, after I came out of surgery I could not talk!  I  lost my voice from the surgery and I was that way for  over four months! It finally did come back but it was not the same. But you know before they finally found out what was wrong  with me and fixed it,  I had been seen by an Army orthopedic surgeon at Ft. Wainwright in Fairbanks he told me I was just malingering and he sent me to a shrink, but they said it was not in my head and they thought I had a major medical problem! For three months I had went to every kind of doctor imaginable, and  I had been told everything from that, I had cancer, to being crazy, to trying to get out of work, all kinds of things! Heck at that time I was a TSgt and the branch chief of the A-10 flight simulator shop if I didn't want to work I could get one of my troups to do it!   Anyway during all that time, I went through living H***  One AF doctor even manipulated me like a chiropractor , he had me lay on my back on the table and then he took my head in his hands and quickly jerked my head side ways, and when he did, it felt like bolt of lighting had struck me and my whole body lifted up off the table.  He jumped back and then he said he would never touch me again, This AF Doctor was an Osteopath. but in the end he was the only one who stuck by me and finally got me to Elemendorf Hospital. You see the only symptoms I had was my arms and hands hurt reallyreally really  bad,!!!, Just like when you hit your crazy bone really really hard, but it was like that all the time in both arms, and my hands burned so so bad,  and every time I sneezed or coughed, I thought I was going to die from the pain. It was so bad that my commander finally said that I could not  work, untill they found out what was wrong with me. He actually talked to the chaplain as I was really getting pale and they thought I was dieing,  I was at home more than a month!  I am telling you this because, I do not want to see you get messed over by some incompetent  military doctors. Keep pressing them don't let them make you work and cause you permanent damage that you will have to live with the rest of your life. I had my surgery in March of 1985  I retired with over 22years in, in Sept 1991, last September I had to have another disk fusion at C-5/6 my surgeon said I was lucky because usually when you have a disk fusion, the disk above or below the fusion goes bad and need to be fused, and usually it is within ten years of the first fusion. I got 25 out of mine!  I also found out last year that my vocal cords on my right side are paralyzed and they have been since my fusion in 85!
 
AF chica I also suggest that you get copies of all your military medical records,  when I retired the AF would not give me any disability, I immediately went to the VA I initially got 20 %  but it was increased to the current 60% disability . Anyway if you have any questions , or if I can be of any help to you, you can always contact me through the  E-mail,  I wish you all the best!
 
Good Luck to you AF chica ( Make them fix you! Please!)
 
White Beard
Moderator Chronic Pain
After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

Post Edited (White Beard) : 9/23/2010 9:23:14 PM (GMT-6)


Redneck Princess
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   Posted 9/24/2010 12:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi AF Chica,
 
I live in your neck of the woods. I'm in Stonewall, just 6 miles south of Shreveport.
 
Sorry to hear that you are experiencing so much pain and evasive answers from doctors. You've gotten some excellent replies from all the regulars here in the forum, and I'm a newbie, for sure.
 
I felt compelled to reply to your posts, though. I'll leave my personal feelings about surgery out of this because I don't have any firsthand experience. Instead, I'll share with you some small remedies that help with my pain and with my husband's (he has Fibro, Osteo of Spine, and Degenerative Disc Disease).
 
We have a hot tub that we try to use daily. We don't always succeed at that, but we do try. We do make at least three days out of the week, and I'll tell you: we feel much better when we take a dip for 20 minutes every day. We don't have the temperature set high, during the summer it's at 96 - 98, in winter 98 -100. Our doctors wrote prescriptions for hydrotherapy, and we claimed the purchase as a medical expense on our tax return. You mentioned that heat helps so I didn't know if you had access to a hot tub or jet tub.
 
I also have used acupuncture on and off for a couple of years. Unfortunately skilled acupuncturists are hard to find in Louisiana. I went to Marshall, TX for the last 6 months of 2009 to a chiropractor there who practices. I received fairly good pain relief. It only lasted as long as I was doing it, though. I've heard recently about a new doctor in town who is a licensed acupuncturist. I'll try to find her name and private message it to you.
 
My husband & I also get massages when we can afford them and utilize pain management doctors as well. We've been fortunate with our choices of rheumatologists and pain management doctors.
 
As for the epidural shots: my husband really had a hard time with sciatica last year, and the shots made a huge difference for him and the sciatica pain. Not so much for the low back pain. He had the three-shot series, and he's glad that he had them. His sciatica symptoms are coming back, but he's gotten a little over a year of relief (from the sciatica only). I tried the epidural shot and didn't get the good results. I didn't really have sciatica pain; my heels on both feet were burning and aching & I had low back pain, but the back of the legs & buttocks got skipped. I've heard and read that the shots and surgery are more effective for patients who have sciatica pain, but I believe that everyone is completely different & responds differently.
 
Sorry to have written a book! I hope that your pain subsides & that you are able to get some pain relief...thank you for your service to our country -- I admire you for the dedication.
 
 

Dx: Fibromyalgia, Inflammatory Polyarthritis, DDD (herniated L5-S1), Tachycardia, Interstitial Cystitis, Raynaud's
Rx: Savella, Mirapex, Oxaprozin, Amitriptyline, Tizanidine, Orphenadrine, Atenolol, Enablex, Nitrofurantoin, Hydroxyzine, Percocet 10

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spinal soldier
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   Posted 9/24/2010 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
hey AF China, how are you today? i'm not sure if it's mandatory for you to use a military doctor or if you are able to use civilian doctors. of course it would be better if you had a full selection of both, but to stick op for a military neurosurgeon who did a cervical fusion on a good friend of mine who was a naval corpsman and became a private physician assistant. this navy or army [i cannot remember] neurosurgeon who worked at Portsmouth Naval hospital did a good surgery and in fact my friend went home the same day and the operation almost accomplished the goals perfectly; he re-gained all the lost feeling in his hands and fingers and was 90% out of pain. so i think you can find the right doctor civilian or not but as Straydog said you must be your own patient advocate; some doctors will talk you into things for various reasons but remember they work for you. P.S. even at your age spinal problems are very common, especially the lumbar spine and in people that do hard work like it sounds like you do. keep us posted and best of wishes to you.
L4,L5,S1 bilateral Laminectomies, Foraminotomies 2002
L4-S1 PLIF with instumentation 2008,

current Rx: OxyContin 60mg 2x, Dilaudid 8mgs [brand] 4x p.r.n. brk., Phenergan 25mg 3x prn nausea, Lyrica 75mg 2x,Adderall 20mgs 1x A.M., Soma 350 mg 3X, Relafen 1000mg 1x, Klonopin 1mg H.S. or prn anxiety Supplements: CO-Q10 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Fish-Oil1000mg EFA, B-Complex50 3x/day, GABA 750mg

AF chica
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   Posted 9/24/2010 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
i am good spinal soldier how are you? I have actually been using civilian Dr's since Barksdale AFB does not have a hospital, we just have a clinic. I had called Wilford Hall which is the medical hospital in San Antonio Tx, to see if i can get a second opinion there. I have had no luck with medications at all her is a list of all the meds that i have been on that have not done much or have but have had side effects too:
Acetaminophen/Caffeine/Butalbital (Fioricet Eq.) Tablet 325-40-50 mg Oral
Acyclovir (Zovirax Eq.) Capsule Conventional 200 mg Oral
AMRIX (CYCLOBENZAPRINE HCL), 15MG, CAP.SR 24H, ORAL, CEPHALON,INC., 60 ea. BOTTLE
CELEBREX (CELECOXIB), 200MG, CAPSULE, ORAL, PFIZER US PHARM, 100 ea. BOTTLE
Cyclobenzaprine Hydrochloride (Flexeril Eq.) Tablet 10 mg Oral
ETODOLAC (ETODOLAC), 400MG, TABLET, ORAL, TEVA USA, 100 ea. BOTTLE
Hydrocodone Bitartrate/Acetaminophen (Lortab Eq.) Tablet 5-500 mg Oral
HYDROCODONE-ACETAMINOPHEN (HYDROCODONE BIT/ACETAMINOPHEN), 10MG-500MG, TABLET, ORAL, MALLINKRT PHARM, 100 ea. BOTTLE
LODINE (ETODOLAC), 400MG, TABLET, ORAL, PREscript PHARM, 28 ea
METHOCARBAMOL (METHOCARBAMOL), 750MG, TABLET, ORAL, QUALITEST, 100 ea. BOTTLE
Meloxicam (Mobic Eq.) Tablet 15mg Oral
Naproxen (Naprosyn Eq.) Tablet 500mg Oral
Propoxyphene Napsylate/Acetaminophen (Darvocet-N 100 Eq.) Tablet 100-650 mg Oral
Tramadol Hydrochloride (Ultram Eq.) Tablet 50 mg Oral
Flextor patches also

So that is everything that i have been on along with 3mo of physical therapy which only helped strengthen my back which was great but i was still in Major pain and it didnt help that out at all. I have been to the chiropractor and that just made it worse except when they put patches on my lwr back that was hooked up to a machine that had elecrtric pulses through my back with a heating pad on top that felt great but didn't last long when i was done with it. I have been to the Nuerosurgeon and the one that i went and saw said no to surgery which a lot of people were surprised about since i guess he is the one that always says yes. Ive been to the pain specialist and i have been going there for over a yr and they wanted to do the injections but 1. I am afraid of needles never mind them going into my back OUCH. and 2. I have not heard anything good come of the injections. So i have been taking meds. i am waiting for them to give me something stronger but it hasn't happened yet and i dont want to ask cuz i dont want them to think that i am a pill popper which i am not. I JUST WANT THE PAIN TO GO AWAY!!!! I do not enjoy what i used to anymore i limit myself from things. i can't sit to long or i get into severe pain, i can't stand to long or walk for a long period of time. i have walked 6mi with my dog but i paid for that when i was done.i can out on the water and go tubing cuz that causes to much pain in my back. when i go fishing i have to make sure i have a chair with me. I have gotten to the point now where i am tired of people saying wait as long as you can to have surgery but im afraid if i do that then i will get worse then what? my pain has gotten somewhat better compared to how it used to be but i still have moments where it is painful to walk and the pain doesn't shoot down my butt and legs it goes up my back and the pain stays just below my butt crack (sorry if that was TMI). Ive gotten to a point also where it hurts to cough or sneeze and the slightest movement with kill. so i am hoping that i can get apporved to get a 2nd opinion from the Dr's at Lackland AFB.

AAAHHH i dont know what to do i want to have fun again and be happy not in pain and sad. i mean i am a happy girl but i just want to be out of pain.

White Beard
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   Posted 9/24/2010 11:42 PM (GMT -6)   
AF chica
 
I would strongly incourage you to try getting the injections, and there is two very good reasons to consider it, first off is the pain relief, and second is the diagnostic factor. By getting the epidural spinal injection, if it does give you adequate pain relief, even if it is not long lasting, it proves that the disk area is bad and is what is causing your pain. Allot of surgeon use this as validation that surgery is needed.  I know that when I had my last disk fusion last year, my surgeon told me that the clincher for him was the fact that the epidurals given me at C-5/6 relieved my pain, and that along with the MRI  justified the need for the surgery.  Even right now there was a question about whether the pain in the back of my head and upper neck was caused by the bad disk at C-3, the one surgeon I had seen refused to do the surgery because he thought the pain was caused from the C-1 or C-2 area, so he wanted me to have PT. Well my  pain doctor at the spine pain clinic disagrees, but sent me to PT anyway just to satisfy that surgeons request,  Physical therapy really messed me up and  has just made things worse!!!,  I literally begged my pain Doc to give me another epidural just to settle things down and give me some relief. He agreed and  I have now  had a total of three epidural injections at C-3 and they have all given me  good relief of the pain, but like the ones I had at C-5 the relief is short lived and  only last 3 or 4 weeks.  Anyway my pain doctor says since the injections do give me good pain relief that is validation enough to indicate that the problem is at C-3 and surgery is definitely  needed.  So I see another neurosurgeon the first of October!!!  I will tell you that the epidurals can be painful but I have had many in my neck and I have done fine getting them, I do not take extra pain meds nor do I take the xanax prior to the injections.  I really do not think they are that bad. But with that said I think the worse injection that I have ever had was the epidural they gave me at T-12 that was unbelieveably painful!  But everyone is different!  Personally I do think you should at least  think about reconsidering having  that epidural injection. ,  
 
AF chica there is one thing you said, that I will admit gave me pause,  when you mentioned Lackland of course the big AF hospital there is Wilford Hall, I have been there numerous times, all I will say is, please be careful if you go there, it  can be a very good hospital and they do have some very very fine doctors there. Or at least they use to!  But they also had a reputation,I do not know if they still have that or not, but all I will say is, do not get the Doctors mad or upset with you!  It is to bad you don't have a naval facility near you, they always had the reputation of having better medical care.  I know they did right by me, the Navy fixed my knee, that the Army and AF doctors screwed up and  miss diagnosed! They actually saved my career in the AF.
 
I wish you well AF chica, and I do hope you can get some relief soon!
 
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After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

straydog
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   Posted 9/25/2010 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
AF after looking at your list of meds most were anti-inflamms and you were not given much in the way of a true pain medication other than the Darvocet which does nothing for most and then you had Hydrocodone. There are other pain meds out there that can be tried. You may need to see a PM dr in order to get them though.It is getting harder and harder to get a dr to give an rx for pain medication these days. I am so sorry that you are having to suffer.

Take care.

Susie

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   Posted 9/25/2010 12:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I can't tell you how many times I've asked the drs to just make the pain go away and I get nothing its like they don't listen.

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   Posted 9/25/2010 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
So who has had the injections in their lower back? I am absolutely petrified of needles especially ones that are going to be near my back. I have now been thinking about it and the nurse on base has also suggested it and says if I am still in pain then there is something really wrong and that I have tried all my options. I would like to know how painful it is. And how it has affected you.

straydog
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   Posted 9/25/2010 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Some people have epidurals done and they are done in a series of three injections spaced out over time. You will get mixed thoughts here at the forum on these injections, keep in mind they do not fix the problem just mask it it. They use steroids and other meds mixed together to try and get the inflammation down, no guarantee it will work. Some people respond and some either stay the same or get worse. Depending on the radiologist doing the injections as to how painful they can or can not be. Personally speaking, no I would not have epidurals done because two of my pain mgt drs have recommended not doing them because they say they are useless. Just my opinion and my drs. I have also had what some call nerve ablations, radio frequency of burning the nerve endings and had great results on my neck but it did nothing for my lower back. This procedure is done after they have done diagnostic blocks to make sure they are getting the correct level where the pain is at.

Has any dr ever tried you on a short course of steroids like a Medrol Dosepack? This may be something to discuss with your dr because many times steroids are used for inflammation and it can work. This may be something for you to consider. Steroids can be great in hetting pain and inflammation down. Something else to consider.

You can go to SpineUniverse.com and then type in ESI injections and read up on them. It is a very good site with great information.

Susie

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   Posted 9/25/2010 10:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on the medrol dosepacks they didn't do anything for me. That's why I don't want to do the steroid injections.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 9/25/2010 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello AF!

I have had a total of 6 epidurals split between both the upper and lower back...well actually my neck and lower back. I did get good relief in the neck area, but had little or no relief in the lumbar area.
To this day, my neck seems to be holding its own. One thing I would suggest, is to ask for some sedation if you have this done. For some it may be uncomfortable, and others very painful, as was my case with my last one.

It may be worth a try, and I would encourage you to take advantage of it, if it is offered to you. As you can see, there are many different opinions on it, so it will be your decision after you weigh your options.
Also, it may take up to two weeks to receive the full effect if any, and many opt to receive the second round at that time. You may not feel the effect for a few days, as it takes a while for it to start to work.

Good luck, and please let us know how things go for you.

SE wink

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   Posted 9/25/2010 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on the medrol dosepacks they didn't do anything for me. That's why I don't want to do the steroid injections.
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