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Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 7:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone! Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, it does!

It basically all started when I received Medicaid. Finally! I could afford to pay for my doctors visits and my medications. I'll try to be brief as I can, but here are the series of events that have taken place.

1. Two months ago my doctor raised my dosage because it was still not helping with the pain.
Dosage: 40 mg OxyContin 1 x 3 times a day
Percocet 10/325 1 every six hours as needed for severe pain

For the first time in two years since I have been taking opiates I am finally on the dosage that is absolutely perfect! I can basically go through the whole day and night with hardly any pain at all.
The doctor tells me that he is going to send me to a neurosurgeon to see if surgery is an option. Reluctantly I said okay.

2. Two months later I finally visited the neurosurgeon. Since there was only one on my plan and took that long to see him.
During the visit the curious why I came in. I explained that my Primary Care Physician wanted to see if surgery to fix me.
Because of the dosage I was taking, I was in no pain and could move my neck and shoulders around very easily.
The doctor said surgery was not an option. However, in his opinion I was on a very high dosage of narcotics. He told me I should get off of the narcotics and just take anti-inflammatories and NSAID's along with physical therapy. I'm thinking to myself, this guy doesn't have a clue!

3. The next day I went in to see my primary care physician.
He entered the room with a very strange look on his face. He told me that he had an altercation with my wife on her last visit. He said he did not want to see my wife anymore, so it is their policy that they must drop my entire family. He would not tell me what she did to make him mad. I couldn't believe what I was hearing so I said I really don't understand what she did to make you mad but the neurosurgeon told me surgery was not an option. He wrote my prescription, handed it to me, and told me to find another doctor as he weaseled out the door without saying anything.

4. Had a long talk with my wife. She really couldn't think of anything that made him mad. When I got home that day there was a letter in the mailbox addressed to my wife as well as a certified letter telling us they would no longer treat my family. I have been seeing this Dr. for 25 years. And in the blink of an eye I have no doctor!

5. The Hunt Begins!
Okay! I am totally screwed! I go on the Internet and start calling every doctor on the Medicaid list. For three days of calling doctors this is what I get:
A. We do not accept new patients
B. You need to be referred by your primary care physician
C. We do not prescribe narcotics.
D. The pain clinics I call say the same thing. We do not prescribe narcotics and only give injections.

6. So here I am still trying to find a doctor. I have one week of medication left. After that I'll probably end up in the hospital from severe withdrawals.
During the last month I have learned that doctors are concerned and caring as long as you have a runny nose, a cold, a rash, or the flu. But once you develop chronic pain doctors instantly turn into uncaring, cold and insensitive creatures. Since I am labeled Using High Doses of Narcotics, no one will touch me with a 10 foot pole.

I can speculate why my doctor got rid of me all I want. But in the end it really doesn't matter. What's done is done. I take narcotics for chronic pain therefore I should be treated no different than a heroine junkie shooting up with dirty needles. There is no difference! Or, I am only taking narcotics to get high. Degenerate Disk Disease is no reason to take opiates. I should only take Advil and NSAID's along with physical therapy. The sad thing is, I have been the perfect patient. I have done everything that has been asked of me. I have taken every test, every MRI, and seen every specialist. But none of that matters.

I take opiates!

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 10/7/2010 10:31 AM (GMT -6)   
 
  Hello Jim!
 
    I do remember visiting with you a while back.
 
    Well!....WOW!.....hum!....something does not sound right here. If my Dr dropped me because he said my wife was a problem....I would be digging to get to the bottom of it for sure. It sounds like he is feeling the pressure of the Goverments crack/down on pain meds. What bothers me is that he would make up a story about  your wife to get out of treating you.
 
  Dosn't Medicade have a referral list of Dr's in you area that can treat you? I'm not well versed on this, so I'm hoping a member will be able to help you on this. You really do need to get on the horn, and or maybe ask your former Dr for a referral to another PCD. Not sure he would though!
 
   SE

Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Screaming Eagle said...
Hello Jim!



I do remember visiting with you a while back.



Well!....WOW!.....hum!....something does not sound right here. If my Dr dropped me because he said my wife was a problem....I would be digging to get to the bottom of it for sure. It sounds like he is feeling the pressure of the Goverments crack/down on pain meds. What bothers me is that he would make up a story about your wife to get out of treating you.



Dosn't Medicade have a referral list of Dr's in you area that can treat you? I'm not well versed on this, so I'm hoping a member will be able to help you on this. You really do need to get on the horn, and or maybe ask your former Dr for a referral to another PCD. Not sure he would though!



SE


I have called Medicade..no help at all

Have been through the whole list as I put in my post.

No place to dig! Certified letter to my wife!

I asked the Dr FLAT OUT! Is it me or her? He said it was her! The out the door he flew!
Major Depression has set in!

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 10/7/2010 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
 
   Oh Dear Jim!
 
    I can see why depression has set in. Is there a bigger city close to you, that you can check?
 
   You are really in a jam here, and I understand your plight. I think it is tied to the Dr's running scared, and is not fair to all of us that need the medical attention for pain.
 
  For what it's worth, I feel for you, and can hear your fear and pain about this.
Maybe a trip to the ER, when the time is ready will start something in motion for you, although a little late at that point.
   My PCD has been acting strange as well, and had me sign a contract with him. I have been going to him for years as well.
 
     What a mess this has become!
 
    SE

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 10/7/2010 10:55:26 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/7/2010 12:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim and welcome to Healing Well's chronic pain forum. Wow, I am at a total loss here. I cannot understand this dr doing what he did. I am assuming this was a PM dr that was treating you. I do know another PM dr will not see you unless there is a referral, it has always been that way for as long as I can remember. I am kind of like SE, get a PCP to refer you to someone in the nearest town to you. This is really strange sounding for sure. Traveling is not something many of us want to do to see a dr but it can be well worth it. Something that bothers me is what is he going to be writing in your medical records on this last visit????? You really need to get a copy of those ASAP. It may take them a few days to get a copy ready but I would for sure do this.

If you go to an ER that may refer you to a dr if you tell them you don't have one, thats a shot to consider taking. I know drs ar running scared but for the life of me why?? If these drs are crossing their t's and dotting their i's then they have nothing to be afraid of. My PM gets regular visits from the DEA and she has no problems with them. In fact, she writes more scripts for opiates than any dr in my state. So much of this is blown out of proportion and then the patients are the ones that take the brunt of their actions. There are several websites if you will google them about CP and many of these places lists PM drs. You may find one close to you and call and see what needs to be done to get an appt. I am going blank right now on the names of them but if you do a google search you should be able to pull some of them up.

Again, I wanted to welcome you aboard. I wish you luck in getting help.
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Tirzah
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   Posted 10/7/2010 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim,
Sorry for what you're going through. I know I am lucky with my current PM but a lot of doctors these days seem to have run amuck. They hate questions. They fear lawsuits. They put people on too little or too much medication because of something other than what's best for the patient. It's just tough. And I think it's especially lousy that your doc would kick you out b/c of your wife. Why couldn't he just ask you to come without her? I don't know. I had one doc (not a pm) kick me out & blamed me b/c he said he was attracted to me (which clearly was true -- ugh!) and didn't want to ruin his family. I showed up in the same ultra-conservative clothes I wore to teach at a Catholic school & I wasn't remotely attracted to him. So I really don't know what I could've done wrong but as good as he was in his field I'd rather have no treatment than some dirty old man ogling me. But I guess doctors are human & they make bad decisions like the rest of us. I wouldn't worry too much about why he kicked you out. You did nothing wrong. Now's the time to focus on getting you the help you need.

So back to the meds issue... have you tried calling your old PCP's office to ask him (1) for one more refill since you haven't been able to find another doc (in some states they can even mail it to you; otherwise he could leave it at the front desk for you to quietly pick up) and (2) for a referral so you could get in to one of the people who said they'd see you if they got a referral from your PCP? I know it sucks to have to pretend to be all nice & sweet to someone who seems to have kicked you out for a really dumb reason but at least if they said yes it would buy you some more time.

hang in there!
frances

PS -- Can you get a new PCP so that maybe that person can give you a referral?

Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 12:41 PM (GMT -6)   
straydog said...
I am assuming this was a PM dr that was treating you.


This was a primary care physician. Not a pain management Dr. I basically live in Kansas City Missouri which is quite an enormous place with thousands of doctors.
And as far as the DEA, I have every kind of paperwork that you can think of that says I am a candidate for long-term opiate use.

Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Frances_2008 said...
So back to the meds issue... have you tried calling your old PCP's office to ask him (1) for one more refill since you haven't been able to find another doc (in some states they can even mail it to you; otherwise he could leave it at the front desk for you to quietly pick up) and (2) for a referral so you could get in to one of the people who said they'd see you if they got a referral from your PCP? I know it sucks to have to pretend to be all nice & sweet to someone who seems to have kicked you out for a really dumb reason but at least if they said yes it would buy you some more time.



As far as trying to get back in to him and plead my case, the certified letter specifically stated that there was to be no further contact.

Here is exactly what the letter said:

Dear Kimberly ( I will withhold last name )

After much consideration, I feel that it would be in your best interest to seek your medical care from another medical facility. I would like to notify you that we will no longer care for you or your immediate family. This in Includes myself, the other Doctors at this office and at other clinics belonging to the ( name of Corporation withheld ). The other clinics and doctors include:

A long list of doctors and clinics are listed which I will not post

There are many competent physicians in the area who are not part of our Corporation. It is my desire that you find medical care to suit your needs. I will be glad to send your medical records to your new position upon written request from you.

Sincerely,

Your Jerk Face Dr. Who Cares Nothing about You, Your Wife, and Your 13-year-old Daughter. Because I Am a Spineless Little Weasel Who Is Afraid to Talk to You Because You Might Beat Me up Due To My Tiny Little Body.



There is no way to get my hands on my records. I'm not sure about your state but here in Missouri records can only be transferred from one Dr. to another.

Post Edited By Moderator (Lindaloo) : 10/7/2010 2:35:35 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:01 PM (GMT -6)   
 
   Jim, when you state that the PCD's tell you that thay are not accepting new patients, are they aware that you are on Medicade? I'm begining to wonder if this is why they will not accept you. My mother in/law just signed up with my PCD, and he said if she was a new Patient, and not related to a current patient he would not take her on, especially if she was on mdeicare. There has to be someone out there who will take you on as a new Patient in a city of that size. I live just south of you in Wichita KS, and you're right KCM is a big city.
    I would encourage you to stay on the phone and not get discouraged just yet. It wll take you months to call all of them, although, I know you do not have that kind of time. This is just not right, and it has put you in a Pickel of sorts. We are desperatly trying to suggest help for you here, because we do care.
  While I wouldn't want to go this route, I would try the ER, as I believe they will have to treat you, and especially with a medicade card in hand. It may be, that they will refer you to a PCD, and the first part of your problem will be solved for the time being. If the referred PCD does not want to take on the pain management, then they can referr you to a PM.
  I really wish I had the answers for you, but Im pretty limited in my knowledge with this sort of problem.
Stray Dog has been here for quite a long time, and is a pretty straight shooter in her advice, so I would be inclind to follow her lead on this. At this point, I'm grasping at straws here, to help you.
 
Hopfully something will open up for you in the near future.
 
  SE

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 10/7/2010 12:08:58 PM (GMT-6)


Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Screaming Eagle said...
Jim, when you state that the PCD's tell you that thay are not accepting new patients, are they aware that you are on Medicade? I'm begining to wonder if this is why they will not accept you.




Yes, everyone is aware that I am on Medicaid. It's actually the first question they ask you over the phone.

I've even gone so far as to have the Medicaid Associates stay on the line with me so they can hear it for themselves.

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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
 
   Now, I think we are getting to the bottom of the issue here. When did you go on Medicade?

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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey Jim,

I just wanted to tell you I am sorry you are having to deal with so much.  Sounds like such a nightmare.  I have no idea how Medicaid works but would that have anything to do with the dr?  I know that some docs only care about money and maybe a private insurance pays better then Medicaid. Does that doc accept Medicaid patients?  I know sometimes doctors refuse to except Medicaid and Medicare patients- which makes ZERO sense to me.  Insurance is insurance no matter how you look at it.  Either way this doc sounds super shady.  I know you said this was your primacy care doc, so have you looked into a PM?  I wish you the best of luck...please keep us posted on this. 


Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Screaming Eagle said...
Now, I think we are getting to the bottom of the issue here. When did you go on Medicade?


3 months before he canned my wife.
My wife and I suspect this is the cause. Everything went downhill from there.

The real kicker is: THE DR SUGGESTED WE GET ON MEDICADE!

However no matter what the cause is.... I am in deep poop!

Jim M
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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
krw135 said...
Hey Jim,

I know you said this was your primacy care doc, so have you looked into a PM?


Yes! As stated in my original post I have called all of them on the Medicade list.

Trying to find one now that is not on list, but they want $500.00 for consultation.
And most just do ONLY injections! mad

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   Posted 10/7/2010 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   

 

   Yes Jim, I think this may have something to do with it as well, but we may never know.

    It appears that you will have to stay on the phone and find that PCD, that will take you both on again.

     Maybe straydog will come back on here, and comment some more for you, now that we know a little more about this. I'm at a loss at this point as how to advise you, other than to keep calling PCd's or go to the ER.

     SE


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   Posted 10/7/2010 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow Jim, this is horrible. I can't offer any solutions as I am in Canada and things are run differently. Please know that I care and I sure hope you don't have to go thru withdrawals!!! Keep us up to date ok!!

Take care
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   Posted 10/7/2010 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Jim, I am so sorry that you are having to go through this - I know how upset, scared, and confused you must be. Ok, here's a couple of things I thought of. First, you CAN get a copy of your medical records in the state of Missouri. I found that info on the Georgetown University website - just google the question: "Can a patient get a copy of his medical records in Missouri?" or any variation of that. Get a copy of your records and ask your wife to do the same. I also read something about a (max.?) $17.00 fee that you can be charged. Also, is Medicaid in your state "HMO-based"? In other words, did you have a choice of company/plan? Where I live there are several Medicaid HMO's to choose from (they vary depending on the county). If your state is similar (call Medicaid if you are not sure), then are you in an "open enrollment period or will they allow you to make a one-time change of HMO? Different HMO = different doctors. There was something else I was thinking of, but now I'm drawing a blank! Just try to take it one day (or hour) at a time, write down all of your options, keep track of everyone you talk to and what was said, etc. I know how hard this is and how hopeless you must feel right now - but don't give up, just keep plowing forward. We, as CP patients are made to feel like bottom-feeders. We have to kick and scream to get anyone to listen/believe us, then someone helps us with those 'evil' narcotics and we are able to live our lives again - and then without a second thought, they yank it all away. It's not right and it's not fair.

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   Posted 10/7/2010 4:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Now, I think I am understanding the picture a little better. This guy is not wanting to handle Medicaid patients any longer it sounds like. I know it works differently and they have a set fee they pay on everything and it usually is a pittance and drs do not like to jack with the all the red tape and paperwork involved with Medicaid. They claim that bogs them down and costs them too much money. Medicaid is considered an indigent type of insurance and unfortunately because of that label the patients pay a high price having it. Kind of like my Medicare no one wants to see us because they pay nothing to the dr too.

Have you spoken with anyone at your local Medicaid office and asked them to help you find a dr that will take you and your family on? I am truly surprised you had a PCP rxing your pain meds, wow, that just does not happen where I live and in most cases regardless of location. Here is a slim shot, many hospitals have a dr referral line that will help people locate a dr. You might call one of your local hospitals or several of them ask for the dr referral line and let them know Medicaid is involved. We have that here where I live and used it for my elderly parents when they moved here.

I am not understanding much of what has happened here, the guy claiming he had it out with your wife and all that mess, its just nuts. Other than what I have written above, man I am fresh out of ideas on this one. I will keep it in mind though and if I can think of another option I will post it here. Do you see a specialist of kind that you have a good relationship with? My thoughts on that would be get in to see him/her & discuss with that dr what has happened to see if he knows of any drs, this is a shot in the dark I know. I am suggesting this because my gastro has been my saving grace many times on getting me in with the right drs including a PM dr.

I really hope something turns up soon for you and your family.
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Tirzah
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   Posted 10/7/2010 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Jim,
I did want to point out that legally there are almost no reasons that allow a doctor to withhold records from a patient. Under federal law doctors must provide copies of patient records to the patient upon written request with only a few exceptions -- if you are suing your doctor/affiliated entity, if the doctor/entity is suing you, if it includes psychiatric records those can be excluded but the rest of the records must be included, if you are enrolled in an ongoing study they can withhold records for as long as the study goes on, if you are in prison or if releasing your records to you would likely result in you causing physical harm to yourself or others. So unless one of those scenarios applies, they MUST provide you your records -- though they are permitted to charge a fee for copies. If you just want to see your records & don't need copies, the same rules apply. They MUST set up a time with you at a reasonable hour of the day for you to come in and view your records in the presence of one of their employees.

If they still refuse to allow you to view your records & don't provide one of those reasons, contact the Office of Civil Rights in Washington, D.C. They will help mediate the situation for you.

I'm still not sure after reading the letter that they would refuse to mail/make available for you to pick up another script. I realize he won't set up another appointment but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't write another script for you. Ethically he should at least call/mail something for the withdrawal symptoms. You might be surprised. My PM & his partners had some patients they kicked from their clinic who were permitted to quietly pick up an envelope with a script in it for a few months after being asked to leave. As long as they weren't kicked out for abusing their meds, they could come pick up meds while looking for a new doc (typically it was people who were chronically missing/late for appointments or caused disruptions in the waiting room or such). The doctors wouldn't see them anymore but they did understand that it's not always easy to find a replacement right away (esp in your case since a lot of people don't take Medicaid). It still might be worth a try but if you're not up for it, maybe try slowly cutting down on your pain meds so that the withdrawals aren't so severe. I don't know how ER's in MO work, but I know here in Chicago they don't accept pain patients & won't send patients home with pain meds unless they're in a pain clinic & their regular doctor calls over to the hospital and orders something (people not in a pain clinic are out of luck). Maybe something to look into before taking on expensive ER bills -- it sucks when you pay all that money & they don't do a darn thing.

wish i could do more to help you,
frances

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   Posted 10/7/2010 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know if this is true in your state but here, if you are on medicaid, you can not pay for treatment with another doctor. Docs won't take you even if you have cash if you are on medicaid. Plus, I think you run the risk of losing your benefits if you do pay cash. You might want to check to see if this rule applies in your state.

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   Posted 10/7/2010 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Jim,
I had just written several things and I had one of my good ole' Syringomyelia Tremors and lost the whole darn thing! Let me see if I can tell you the two major issues I feel is going on here as a long time (10 yr.) disabled person. No. 1.) I'm stunned you got Medicaid or Medicare as rapidly as you did. Good for you! I received a letter from Disability/Medicare approx. 6 months ago saying they were taking me off of disability, “hallelujah I'm healed!” (sarcasm) They sent me to one of “their” doctors to check my range of motion as I was in sever pain due to frozen shoulder. He grabbed my arm and pulled! I screamed, started crying and he walked out. He then proceeded to send in the report that I had complete motion. And 2 weeks later, I had my surgery for the frozen shoulder. None of it made sense so I called the “case worker” (more like the case closer!) at Medicare and asked why after 10 years were they taking me off of it. Now, please those who read this, I DID NOT say this, I am going to quote what the Medicare worker (case closer) said, “Honey, if no one has filled you in yet, I thought I’d let you know that we are under a new administration. Things are getting tough and you are one of the ones it gets tough on.” I asked her if she was saying what I thought she was saying and she said, “Take it however you want to, I’m just saying that you are among thousands who are being booted.” I hired an attorney. I know nothing yet, but I’m in big trouble if they cut my Medicare/Medicaid.
No. 2.) I come from a family of doctors; I don’t even like them much! (just kidding) I know for a fact that the following could very well have happened. I have a hunch (as we say in the south) that your PC got a call from the Neurosurgeon and in essence was told that he would be reported for giving you the type medication at the levels he was giving you. He got scared. He can’t come out and say to you, “hey man, that neurosurgeon just threatened me with my license!” so, what better way for a chicken to handle things than to say he had a problem with your wife. I personally believe that he got a “courtesy” call from the neurosurgeon letting him know that he was going to be reported.
Well Jim, I’ve been through a family crisis since that last sentence. My daughter is a raging alcoholic and I just watched her be handcuffed and taken to the General hospital here in Nashville, Tn. I feel like someone just tore my heart out and handed it to me in a dog dish. I will keep you in my thoughts and if you need to know anything about Medicare/Disability/Medicaid, let me know as I said…been doing it a long time.
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   Posted 10/7/2010 9:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I can really sympathize with you. Maybe it has something to do with the name Jim....lol...as I found myself in the same basic situation a while back after having been with the same doctor for over 10 years and getting kicked to the curb. It took me over 6 months to find another doctor and then it was once more jumping through hoops with physical therapy, MRI's, injection therapy, and the BS drugs that I had already tried and that did not work before finally being put on something that helped.

I was lucky in that I did not suffer from any withdrawls, other than a week of the runs, after having been on morphine pills for over a year.

What you may very well have to do is find a doctor who will take you on and oversee your general health and then get that doctor to give you referrals to specialists who will treat your pain.

Sadly you have two strikes against you. One is that you are a chronic pain patient and the other is that you have been dumped by a doctor. As far as the latter one goes your best bet for finding a new doctor is to focus your search on doctors who are either independent or associated with huge competitors of this group your last doctor was with. That is how I finally found a new PCP. It might even mean getting your foot in the door with a clinic/practice by seeing a nurse practitioner or a physicians assistant who can then refer you to one of the groups MD's.

In the meantime I strongly suggest tapering down your pain medication use as much as you can and stretch it out as long as possible to help minimize any withdrawl symptoms you may end up having. Hopefully since you have not been on these meds for very long it will pass quickly.
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   Posted 10/8/2010 4:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I can't believe that your doctor did this. I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I don't have any advice, as I have never been through anything like this, but please keep us updated. I would definitely try to get your records mailed to you and maybe that will tell you what happened.

Hugs,

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   Posted 10/8/2010 10:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm so very sorry this has happened to you..Wish I had some advise..
Keep us posted and I hope you can find a doctor, I know a lot of doctor here
have stopped taking medicaid as they basically get nothing from medicaid or medicare.
It's horrible, just horrible...the system will be bankrupted before we get to use it and we pay for medicare...
I hope you can find a Doctor...maybe try weening yourself down on the medicine so
you don't have to go to the ER...
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Jim)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Healing Hugz...
Medicaid and Medicare need to be fixed....
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* Asthma, Allergies, Osteoarthritis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenative Disc (Lower Lumbar S1-L3 and Cervical C5,C6, C8 and T1), Fibromyalgia, Gerd,
Enlarged Pituitary Gland, Sjogren's, Ocular Migraines, mild carpel tunnel, ect.... "Would be nice if we could use the edit button in real life"...

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Jim M
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 47
   Posted 10/11/2010 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

I just got back from the last Family Practice office. It is run by one single older lady doctor.
The office is in a really bad part of town. Also, the office is old and run down.

I took my MRIs, my prescription bottles with the remaining few pills and told her what was going on. I told her no one would touch me, how badly I've been treated, and no pain management doctors or regular doctors were willing to treat me.

After listening she started writing my prescriptions and said I will see you next month.

Okay, I am in total shock. I asked her again, " Are you willing to take me on?"
She said of course I am Jim!

I stood up, I had a tear in my eye, and hugged her for probably 30 seconds or more.
Imagine that, a 54 year old man and I have a tear in my eye!

There is actually someone out there who really gave a S*@t about me!

After a month of being totally without hope and desperation in my life, God sent me unknowingly to someone who is going to take care of the pain I suffer from everyday.

She is even taking my wife as well. After my wife and I told her our story she said that we were let go because of Medicaid! My wife said she wasn't sure what's going to be in our medical files. The Dr. said she doesn't care what's in our files!

She said "No funny business"! My wife and I just looked at each other and smiled. We told her she will never have a problem with us.

She refilled my pain medication along with my Klonopin but is making my wife go to a psychiatrist before she will start writing her a monthly script. My wife is on Klonopin as well. But I am on the 2 mg and my wife is on 1 mg three times a day.

Anyway, I thought for sure all hope was lost and I would be spending next week in the hospital from severe withdrawals. But at the last moment, in a horrible part of town, in a crappy little office that is run by only one Dr. I get to have my life back! I will be able to be ME again!!! Not the person I have become just because being jerked around by Dr's that think Medicaid people are the scum of the earth!

It's quite hard typing right now because my emotions are all over the place. It is so strange to be treated like a dirty scummy dog and now treated like a human!

I think it will take about a week before I can be ME again due to being DOWN soooooo long!

Thanks for listening!

Jim....
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