Chronic back pain- I. want. drugs.

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Tayona
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   Posted 10/26/2010 2:44 AM (GMT -6)   
For the past year and a half I have been suffering from back pain, and headaches. My headaches are so bad, that before I went to the chiropractor, I would have to sit in the dark all day. It was also so bad that at times I would forget where I was and even had problems remembering my name. Since then I have much improved. Although I still suffer from periods of what has been deemed 'Mental fog'. My chiropractor says that he sees maybe 4 people who suffers as I do. I am a rarity.

Now, apparently chiropractors cannot give prescriptions, which is too bad since I saw him 44 times last year, yes FORTY FOUR.
My doctor has sent me to a neurologist who sees no reason for my problems-- who also ordered a CAT and a MRI- again with no problems

My chiropractor claims I have more muscle tension than muscle bound pro athletes, an says that whenever he sees me (usually), my back is way out. (im 98 pounds and 5'4")

A while ago, I was given a drug called Ratio-Tecnal as a painkiller after some surgery-- it provided little 'pain' relief for its intended purpose. It was the most amazing drug I have ever experienced. Not only would it clear my mental fog within 30 minutes, it would also stop any back pain I had for days at a time. One little pill would keep me away from the chiropractor for 4 days+, when I had already had my mental fog preparing an appointment. When I was on it daily, I went nearly a month without seeing him!!! Something I had never done. I only went back because I had no more of the drug.

My doctor doesnt want to give me this drug, how do I convince him that I need this. Not only for my sanity, but for my wallet!!! Im not asking for Oxycodone or anything like that i dont see the problem. mad

Post Edited (Tayona) : 10/26/2010 2:11:36 PM (GMT-6)


antbuggey
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   Posted 10/26/2010 8:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Tayona,

Welcome to the forum! I am very sorry to hear about your suffering! I too, have back pain but not headaches....thank goodness....I do not handle headaches very well! I am not familiar with that drug. Did your doctor give you a reason for not wanting to prescribe it? Unfortunately, I am not sure how to help convince your doctor. I would certainly find out his reasons for not wanting to prescribe it, and try to go from there.

Anyway, I just wanted to welcome you and tell you that I am glad you found us and this is an amazing place....full of amazing people!

Take care of you!
Beckey
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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 10/26/2010 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   

 

    Hello Tayona!

   Welcome to the CP forum!

      I'm a little confused as to the drug (Med) you were taking, when you said it provided little pain relief for its intended purpose. You then said it was the most amazing drug (Med) you have ever experienced, and that it stopped any back pain you had.

  I get concerned when a person says they need a drug (medication) for their sanity as well. Can you tell us a little more about your back problem? Have you had surgery for it? Have you tried any of the other medications generally used for back pain. Have you been to PT, had an epidural? The more you can tell us about your problem, the better the good members here may direct you. We are here for support, and may share our experiences with you, but we are not Dr's.

    I'm sure there will be other members along who can maybe suggest a better path for you. I'm sorry you're having such pain and the fog from the headaches. We all suffer here from Chronic Pain, and do fully understand what your going through, so your not alone. I suspect that both the back pain and headaches combined are taking a toll on you physically and mentally.

       SE wink

 

 


Tayona
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   Posted 10/26/2010 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I had a growth removed on my breast, it was pretty hack and slash, and was done with local freezing. To stop any pain after the fact, I was given ratio-tecnal. It is an ASA/caffeine/codeine/Butbital. It did not stop the pain at the surgery site, but did help my back (Mostly stopped the fog, its like someone turns on a switch and im better, I feel the same relief when I go to the chairo, but its not as long lived, and tends to dissipate. On this med, I feel like I used to, better than a chiropractor visit) He claims that since Butbital is a barbiturate, it bothers him to prescribe it.

I used to take robaxacet, but I have stopped. It has stopped working unless I take it in very high doses (then I get high and dont function as well. I do have to do this on occasion). I have also been given anti-migrane meds which did nothing. I have not had surgery and it was not suggested by anyone that I go to physical therapy. Mostly because I have not been in an accident, I assume.

I can live with back pain, its the mental fog I cant deal with. Its like my IQ drops 20 points. I find it harder to think, drive, and I just cant afford $1200 and missing an hour or more of work a week to go to the chiropractor.

Post Edited (Tayona) : 10/26/2010 2:12:02 PM (GMT-6)


straydog
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   Posted 10/26/2010 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Tayona and welcome to Healing Well's chronic pain forum. Wow 44 trips to the chiropractor in one year, that had to have cost you a bundle. And no chiropractors are not allowed to write scripts instead many sell supplements. Did your health insurance really kick in and pay for all of those visits because most insurance companys will limit the visits to 7-10 visits a year for a good reason too in many instances. As far as the headaches go, having to stay in a dark room sounds very much like a migraine headache. I have migraines and a dark room is a must.

So you have been seen by a neurologist who did testing and came up empty handed as to why you have pain. Well, I think that is why no one will give you pain medication. Pain is considered subjective. You need to have a diagnosis that would warrant the need for pain medication to begin with. Just saying you have back pain is not enough because nearly everyone at some point in their life is going to have back pain whether its for a few days or a life time. Getting pain medication today is getting harder and harder. I don't know where you live or if you watch the news but its all over the tv about different states are stopping certain pain medications from being prescribed in their states. We do not walk in a drs office and ask for pain medication, that would get us kicked out the door so fast it would make your head swim. The members of this forum suffer with chronic pain and all have a diagnosis as to what has caused CP to set in. It is not as simple as it may sound to you.

I too don't understand you saying you were given a pain medication for something and it did not work for what it was rx'd for but it helped your back pain, weird. By the way I did a google search for this medication and came up empty handed, are you sure that was the name of it? Maybe if you could give us more info.

Anyway, wanted to pop on and say welcome aboard.
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Tayona
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   Posted 10/26/2010 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the welcomes! I live in Canada, and I have zero health insurance. Although, canada does pay for my first 10 visits!
Since nobody can seem to find it. Oh apprently I added an H. sorry!

http://chealth.canoe.ca/drug_info_details.asp?brand_name_id=1598&rot=4

Tayona
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   Posted 10/27/2010 2:56 AM (GMT -6)   
So my chiroproactor did a little research, Butbital acts as a gaba amino acid. That is available at any health food store. It is used to prevent neurotransmitters from over firing and used to treat hyper tension. Lets see if I get the same result. It may also explain why my weight has been fluxing.

Hello~Kitty
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   Posted 10/27/2010 3:55 AM (GMT -6)   
The medication your talking about is called Fioricet with codiene here in the US. It's FDA approved for tension headaches...And it's very well known for causing rebound headaches, I know from experience....and it is a weird drug to ask for "back pain", it did wonders for my migraines but if I took more then 2 doses a week, then I would get sick and an even worse migraine, and sometimes out of the blue it would make me vomit like crazy. And not only does it have an narcotic painkiller in it, it has a barbituate in it, so that makes it twice as addictive in the eyes of some doctors, thats why some doctors are very anti prescribing it, even it helps.....

I understand the headaches AND back pain, I've been there, alot of us have. I would not give up, just because one neuro told you they couldn't find anything, ask for another doctor's opinion. Some Neuros are more specialized in headaches/migraines then others (some neuros are more specialized in just parkinson's or strokes or ECT) so call around and find another doctor who can hopefully give you more answers. If we all gave up after the first few (or few hundred for some of us) we would never get any answers, so don't give up on medical help just yet...

-kitty
DX-Pancreatic Divisum, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, Myofascial Syndrome, Migraines, Allergies W/Asthma, Depression W/Anxiety/Panic disorder, Lower back Disc issues

straydog
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   Posted 10/27/2010 4:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, that explains why I came up empty handed trying to find out what that was, lol. I do know they have PM drs in Canada but I believe they treat differently than how we are treated in the states. I am really at a loss as to suggesting anything because with no cause known for this back pain, it will be difficult getting any dr to rx pain meds I am sure. What does your chiropractor think, does he feel you need to be on medication? I would think he would perhaps have a dr he could refer you to.

Keep posting and let us know how you are coming along.
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Tayona
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   Posted 11/1/2010 10:08 PM (GMT -6)   
While I didnt specifically ask him, he definatley thinks I can benefit from the gaba amino acids. They work decently in the short term (my head becomes clearer, but not as clear), but within an hour or two, I get massive headaches. I am taking it 1 hour before bed, and when I wake up, im even more tired and cranky and the headaches remain. I don't get it.

did I mention, im an unemployed insomniac? Takes me hours to fall asleep, but I can stay asleep.

Also, Hello~kitty, are you taking it with food? That seems to be the trick to not getting sick with me or it could be that they arent tablets. Are yours chalky looking tablets or gel looking pills? I know T3's make me vomit as well and those are always tablets, im wondering if its the casing that is saving me the tummy troubles.

Post Edited (Tayona) : 11/2/2010 2:46:53 AM (GMT-6)

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