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PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 2/14/2011 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
HELLO EVERYONE,
I have this prob. as well, I just want 2 know from Y'ALL just how the doctors know just how they know the # of Dics down the neck, how they count them also???????

misterkatamari
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   Posted 2/14/2011 5:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I had no idea what any of the disc numbering things were either before coming here. Hope you found your answer.

Chartreux
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   Posted 2/14/2011 9:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay, first of all there are three sections of your spinal column.
Those are the cervical, most of the neck, the thoracic, upper back and
the lower lumbar to the butt. and the butt joint is called the S1, for sacrum
cause from there it's attached to the big sacrum small coccyx or tailbone.
there are 33 bones in the spine and they number them to locate things,
like your nerves, everyone usually has the same amounts, 7 cervical, 12
Thoracic and 5 lower lumbar.. so they are numbered.
Hope this helps, search google if your needing more info, here we give support.
If your doctor won't give you any answers then seek out another doctor that can help you better.
Finding a good doctor can be hard but will indeed be worth it.
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I hope you can get a low pain day soon, well wishes and healing hugz
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White Beard
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   Posted 2/15/2011 1:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi SpinalChick
 
Wecome to Healing Well Chronic pain forum, maybe this chart might help you. And explain the different number of disks
 
 
Hope this helps you!
 
White Beard
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After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 2/15/2011 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU all SSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY VERY VERY VERY MUCH for helping me out with this cause I thought that all of the doctor's counted them all like this but I was quite sure you know so again THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Now I have yet another question for Y'ALL if I may ask Y'ALL PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE????????????? Now a person with this type of neck/arm injury do any excerises to help it get better?????????????????

Retired Mom
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   Posted 2/15/2011 2:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I would have to recommend asking your physician to send you to a very good physical therapist. They can see your reports and test results and recommend the best exercises for you. Anything recommended here will be personal opinion, since none of us are Dr's. This one is best left to the experts, I'm afraid.

Best of luck!
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White Beard
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   Posted 2/15/2011 10:30 PM (GMT -6)   
SpinalChick

The question I have is: Have you had a neck injury? and if so what type of injury have you had? Injuries to the cervical disk in the spine can cause some types of arm pain, and should be immediately evaluated by a Doctor, depending on what type of injury it is and the type of damage that is done to the neck. some times Physical therapy will be prescribed to the patient. Some times Doctors will recommend epidural spinal injections of steroids to reduce inflamation and some times a patient will be referred to a surgeon for further evaluation,. some patients will have all of this done and more done. But it is important not to do any thing without having the approval of your doctor, as doing exercises or stretching or going even going to a chiropractor with out having your doctors approval could be inviting disaster. as it is possible to incure further damage by doing so. So if you have neck problems or cervical disk problems, please have it evaluated by a competent doctor before receiving any type of treatment!! It is really important to do this!

I do wish you well and hope that you will keep us informed of your progresss.

White Beard
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After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 2/16/2011 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok...ok...ok here's the deal you guys I had an MRI done, then I went to the doc. about UUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMM I'll say like 3 or 4 or even 5 week's ago I'm not really exactly sure sorry HEHEHEHEHEHE. Anyways the MRI showed 3 of my disc's in my neck which are C567 hernaited, he reckamened a surgien 4 me but we haven't called yet because my mom doesn't want me 2 go through sugery quite yet you know almost being a last resort kind of thing you know what I mean??? I should of told Y'ALL from the begining, I am SSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY 4 that but Y'ALL see I am handicapped as well, I still live at home with my momma, I do fall ALOT, I MEAN ALOT but the doc. doesn't think at all that it's from that so we don't know you.

White Beard
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   Posted 2/17/2011 1:10 AM (GMT -6)   
spinalchick
 
Ok that information helps allot, so you have all three disks (C-5,C-6 and C-7) herniated and your doctor wants you to see a surgeon?  Is there any reason that your mom wants to wait on seeing him? I do understand not wantintf surgery except as a last resort, put it would be good to get the opinion of the surgeon. One thing that you said really concerns me, you said you were handicapped and that you fall allot. Please Please Please becareful, because with those herniated disks in your neck falling could be really bad for you. I myself have had the disk at  C-6/7 removed and fused, in 1985, and then had the disk above it at C-5/6 removed and fused in 2009, and last november I had the articular joints at C3/4 fused.  The disk fusions ACDF Anterior Cervical Diskectomy and Fusion, is really a piece of cake, your only in the hospital a few days and as far as surgeries my surgeon says it is a pretty easy surgery to do. 
 
Anyway I am glad you have found us, and any and all information that you feel comfortable sharing with us about your pain and condition, helps us understand what you are going through, and what help and support we can give you. Having had this type of surgery and knowing how serious having herniated disk in the neck can be, I am just a little concerned, and I do hope you can at least see a surgeon  soon to see what he/she has to say, most good surgeons will not do surgery unless it is absolutely  needed.  But with you falling allot that really does concern me, are they absolutely sure that those herniated disk are not affecting or causing that? If it is not, then please take all precautions to prevent you from falling with your neck being in the shape that it is!
 
I do wish you well and I do hope everything works out well for you! Please keep us posted on how you are doing. Your a member of our forum family now and we all care about each other!
 
White Beard
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After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 2/23/2011 2:34 PM (GMT -6)   
DEAR EVERYONE,
I am SSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY 4 not getting on here until today but I've been SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO with a cough, cold sorry:::::::::::::::((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Now I did recently go 2 the chico. with my momma last week u know 2 work on me, my back but she didn't touch my neck cause we both told her u know, then I asked if the're were any excerises that I could do 4 it u know, she said yes, gave me 2 booklet's like just full of them, I've been doing them everyday, they've been helping ALOT, I mean AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO THANK GOD LIL. 4 that u know :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 3/8/2011 11:47 PM (GMT -6)   
HEY EVERYONE,
Y'ALL be glad 2 know that I am still doing all of those excerises 4 my neck, their all still going SSSOOO well I am SSSOOO EEEXXXIIITTTEEEDDD!!!!! YYYYAAAAA now I'm still getting the tingling, numbness somtimes in my right arm but as soon as I sit up straight it all goes away so it's all still in my neck but that's alright with me not really but oh well right cause I just do the excerises, the pain in the neck goes away again

Post Edited (SPINALCHICK) : 3/8/2011 9:51:07 PM (GMT-7)


mrsm123
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   Posted 3/9/2011 1:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Spinal Chick,
It would be best if you did at least let the surgeon make recommendations for therapy. Surgery is a last resort, not something that they usually recommend right off the bat. They usually want to try Physical Therapy first, then some injections if they believe those will help. If you are getting decent pain relief from doing the excercises , that's good news and more directed physical therapy might really make things even better pain wise and maybe even help the numbness.
The thing is though, if you are falling, it could be from the disc herniations and the size of them. The longer you wait, the more permanent the numbness and falling if it is caused by the discs , can cause permanent damage. That's why you need to see the surgeon for the consultation so that he can tell you what is safe, what is not safe and if those herniations are what is causing you to fall.
Please at least let him tell you whether or not the herniations are the cause of the falls. That way, you know if you should be worried about doing some things.
The size of the spinal canal is tiny in comparison to the lumbar area so if the herniations are pinching the cord, you can really hurt yourself by doing something without it being cleared by the surgeon first. Whatever you do, do NOT let the chiropractor touch your neck. That could be disastrous.......

PICKINGCHICK
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   Posted 3/9/2011 6:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok thanks but hOw could the discs be causing me 2 fall??????? I don't understand????????

Rhaevin
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   Posted 3/9/2011 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
SpinalChick,
 
That pain and numbness in your arm, when you're not sitting up strait, are early warning signs. I believe it was explained to me once about pinched nerves. There are more people here then I that can tell you about back and neck injuries. I just know from experience that during my process of ellimination I saw a Chiropractor for all the pain in my arm, some of which included numbness and tingling especially in my fingers. I told my Chiro that we didn't have a diagnosis, but we knew what it wasn't. They did an X-ray of my upperback and neck area and discovered that the normal curve that is supposed to be in your neck was actually reversed! So he recommened a rigorus and extreme traction treatment to help restore the proper curve. His theory was that the reverse curve had pinched the actual spinal colum, hense all my pain. As the weeks went by my neck slowly started to improve, but not my pain.
 
I understand your Mom wanting to wait on doing surgery as a last resort, but that means you need to actively search for another Doctor, maybe an orthopedist or a back specialist, that way you can get a second oppinion. Otherwise you may be doing more long term, or even permanent damage by not getting the surgery done.
 
I hope you find some answers and a successful treatment. I worry that some of those exercises you do might be causing more harm then good. But then what do I know, I'm not a doctor.
Originally injured 10/26/2007 - Initial diagnosis; Tendonitis
Spent next year seeing specialist after specialist; Bone, Muscle, Hand, Neurologist, Chriopractor, Physical Therapist...
Went through a battery of tests, multiple MRI's
11/16/09 I was finally diagnosed CRPS - Stage 2
Permanently disabled, on Percoset.
February 2011 successful SCSU trial
No surgeon willing to do my SCSU Implant
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