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healing1
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   Posted 2/15/2011 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
  mad   mad   mad _   please help,  i have work related injury, lower back injury they said in the beginning that i had a lumbar strain but i was having bad pains from back to my legs and i felt tingling going down my legs.  a couple of days i was referred to physical theraphy,  i would say my left leg hurt, the physical therapist would pull on it, he said he didn't know why i would have pain in my leg.  the second week i went for a mri, i was diagnosed with bulging disk that eventually was pinching the nerve.  i have been treated awfully, i am alergic to many medications, and their only option was the epidural. i was put on restrictions for work, i am afraid because my leg gives out on me. i have been in and out of the hospitals and spine specialist doctors, they are always comparing me with other patients and they rude, as soon as i tell them how i am feeling they are on the defensive side.  i went for my appt. and i was discharged they said it was nothing they can do for me because i didn't get the epidural. i never thought that if i was injured i will be treated this way.  i am lost i don't know what to do. it is so many thing going on, is there anyone out there been in my shoes and if so, what happened and how did you get through this and are you ok today?

Chutz
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   Posted 2/15/2011 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Healing1~

And Welcome to the CP Family. Gosh, I'm so sorry to hear how you've been treated but unfortunately we hear this more often than we care to. I hate to say this but here goes....I'm guessing you are working with state disability/L&I (workers compensation)/or whatever it's called in your state. That is the reason you are getting the poor treatment. I have a very close relative who works for them in our state but at least he's not one of the adjusters, he keeps the computer systems up and running and has nothing to do with claims. But he sees the problems from his vantage point and agrees that often people injured on the job are not treated very well. The people are like Social and Health services workers...swamped with clients and pushed by 'the system' to not use up too much money on any one person. IMHO, it's a very sad state of affairs that our government treats people as if they are numbers and dollars.

But, enough of my ire and opinions...you need some serious help and a good doctor of YOUR choosing should be able to give you that. I have an identical problem to yours...and maybe in the same exact location. Mine wasn't work related but the pain is the same. My MRI showed the disk at L/5:S/1 was squashed and pinching the nerves that exit the spinal column there. Those are the nerves that run down the legs all the way to your toes. The pain hits like a lightening bolt and you never know when it will happen...other times it hurts like that all of the time. So there are many of us on the forum who have similar issues and can give you ideas from our experiences.

A couple of things I will suggest. The first and I think the best is to keep a pain journal. This is nothing more than a record daily of your pain. Here's a link to a free journal page you can download.

www.painfoundation.org/learn/publications/files/TargetDailyLog.pdf

here's another link that gives you help describing the intensity of your pain...

www.wemsi.org/painscale.html

Then copy a page for each day of the week and fill it out each day. I did mine at the end of the day, some people keep it handy and put things in all during the day. Whatever works for you. Then comes the next important part of this deal...take your journal to each and every doctor's appointment you have. Show it to them and ask them to review it while you sit there. (ps..don't ever leave it with any doc or you risk loosing it) By doing this many members have found that their doctor took them very seriously about their pain and need for help. Also, the doctor can get a good picture of your pain levels, when it's worse, etc. It shows how serious and willing you are to do your share of the work to find a solution.

Then, I would suggest you go to a private doctor..not someone working for the state. Your personal doctor doesn't have a vested interest in your care. Be honest with him/her and tell him exactly what you've gone through and with some luck you will get the treatment you really need. We will be here to help and support you all the way!

Hugs,
Chutz
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Chartreux
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   Posted 2/15/2011 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I wanted to say hello, others here know what advice to offer up
as my pain stemmed from a car accident and RA ect...I
would say maybe look into getting an attorneys opinion.
Hope you can get a low pain day soon.
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well wishes and healing hugz
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Retired Mom
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   Posted 2/15/2011 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome to HW. I had the same problem you describe as well. I was not injured at work, but with a simple movement in a classroom situation. Within three days I was having "emergency" surgery on my L5-S1 with a fusion (including rods/screws and morselized bone. This is not to say you will require the same, but you are possibly dealing with a much more complicated issue than Workmans Comp or some other similar program is going to help you with.

Like the others, I recommend you find a very good Dr (perhaps neurosurgeon) to look at your MRI with "fresh eyes". It does make a difference who actually sees the reports and the "films". When they see what is going on, you will be able to get more accurate information than this insanity you are getting now.

I had no choice but to do a fusion immediately, however, my disc was ruptured beyond repair. The fusion did stop the horrible nerve pain that I'm sure you are having (no matter what you do), but it was considered a failed back surgery because the bone grew sideways and did not fuse as it should have. I have been told the changes of success would have been greatly improved if they had added a cage, but hindsight is 20-20.

Please do not think injuries of your type require surgery or all are failures. It will seem more like that here because we are all chronic pain patients. There must be a great deal of success with other procedures or they would not continue to do them.

I am also allergic to a great number of meds and I cannot get the standard epidural injections. What I get are nerve ablations (where they go in with a special needle under a special kind of x-ray) and burn the nerves that are causing the pain. For me it does wonders (but it takes a few weeks for the nerves to die). It works for some and not for others.

ER's are horrible for situations like this IMHO. I was turned away!!!

For home care before you are able to find the help you need, I would recommend a heating blanket and some type of anti-inflamatory (OTC). I'm allergic to NSAIDS, but did take aspirin and tylonol. If you can take it, Torodol (sp?) seems to help relieve the swelling and therefore the pressure on the area. I used it then, but have developed an allergy since then :(

This may be more information than you are seeking and I hope I have not provided to much. I am certainly no Dr, but I feel your pain because I have been there. I hope you find some medical help very soon. The epidural may be a good choice if you are not allergic to the meds. It's certainly worth a try before jumping into surgery, although I understand your need for relief from such this pain.

All my best!
Failed fusion L5-S1, Pituatary damage, HGH Def, Fibro, Bladder surgery failure, Nissen Failure, GERD, OCPD, GAD, MDD, CTS (Bilateral Surgery completed), CFS, TMJ, Migraines, Vit D, A, Magnesium deficiency, Pre-glaucomic (sp?), HBP, Idiopatic Reactive Hypoglycemia, Edema, too many Drug/Food allergies, sensitivites, and current meds to list.

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 2/15/2011 11:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome to HW. I too would like to offer my support to you and yes my injury was caused by a work injury and I am dealing with FBS, radicular neropothy (which is a fancy name for "gee your having leg pain". I have some ddd but that is something that comes with age.

I have WC of Wyo. which has been pretty good at paying for the bills. However, I believe like you that doctors and medical staff treat us different when we are hurt at work. I've had nurses scowl at me when I mention it and have had WC tell me no I cannot do this procedure.

One thing I have learned after dealing with these people since I began in 2000 is that no one can treat us badly because we are WC patients. Don't put up with it, be assertive about what you want from your treatment and do not let them give you crap.

Hoped this helped.

Scarred
I live to "Tame My Pain!" 

momtofourangels
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   Posted 2/16/2011 12:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I want to welcome you to the chronic pain forum also. I'm so sorry that you're being treated this way. I don't have the pain that you're having in your legs, but i do have chronic pain in my back. My injury was from falling in the winter though, so it's not where I got hurt at work. I wish you luck on getting the treatment that you deserve and are seeking.

hugs
Loretta

healing1
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   Posted 2/16/2011 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
:-)  
 
     hello everyone,
 
    i am smiling because i am not alone in this and i appreciate everyones support and advice and i will start keeping  a record of my pain. thank you very much.
 
thank you blush
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