voltaren and other creams

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momtofourangels
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   Posted 3/8/2011 2:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Do any of you have creams or patches that you use to help your pain? I have voltaren gel and lidoderm cream thru prescriptions. I would be interested to hear what everyone uses as far as those go. Thanks in advance.

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Loretta
Dx: osteoarthritis, bursitis in left hip, Osteoarthrits in right hip, compression fracture in thoracic spine due to falling on frozen ground March 2001 , ddd, spinal stenosis, bone spurs, osteoarthritis in spine, osteoarthritis in both knees

razzle51
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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
didnt work for me

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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
lots of side effects
Voltaren Gel side effects
Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction to Voltaren Gel: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Although the risk of serious side effects is low when diclofenac is applied to the skin, you should be aware of side effects that can occur if the medication is absorbed into your bloodstream.

Stop using Voltaren Gel and call your doctor at once if you have a serious side effect such as:

chest pain, slurred speech, problems with vision or balance, and feeling weak or short of breath;

bloody or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;

pale or yellowed skin, dark colored urine, confusion;

swelling or rapid weight gain, urinating less than usual or not at all;

nausea, upper stomach pain, itching, loss of appetite, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);

bruising, severe tingling, numbness, pain, muscle weakness;

fever, sore throat, and headache with a severe blistering, peeling, and red skin rash; or

the first sign of any skin rash, no matter how mild.

Less serious Voltaren Gel side effects may include:

mild nausea, stomach pain, upset stomach;

diarrhea, gas; or

mild itching, dryness, redness, scaling, or other skin irritation where the medicine was applied.

desert
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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I was prescribed Lidoderm patches before my PM was completely sure of the cause of my issue as a stopgap, but they did absolutely nothing for me. Even when I stayed at max dose over the course of days. But I've read they don't work well for nerve pain anyways because they can't get deep enough. I've also heard that they've worked quite well for others with different issues. I did like that I could hide them effectively under my shirt, but found I had trouble if I moved a lot during the day with them sliding down and then being difficult to reach to fix.

Tirzah
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   Posted 3/8/2011 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Was allergic to lidoderm patches.
Voltaren caused my hair to fall out (I was using it on my neck & scar on head)

I now use a compounded gel with ketamine in it. It's not covered by my insurance, but I really love it and don't get side effects from it b/c my doctor can order a low enough dose that it doesn't bother me. :)

good luck in your serach, Dani. :)

momtofourangels
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   Posted 3/8/2011 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your replies. I use Voltaren Gel and I do ok with it. It does a good job with my hands and knees, but it's not appoved for my back. My doctor ordered lidoderm patches and my insurance wouldn't cover them. I can't find my lidoderm cream and I did get, but the time I did use it, it didn't work very well.

Does anyone know any others there might be that I could use on my back? I am on pain meds but they're not working as well, and I was hoping to be able to get another kind to try. I'm on medicaid, so I don't know if I could get one of those that are combined into one. I also don't know where a pharmacy is that does combining of medications.

Thanks
Loretta

ps. maybe I should just go see my dr.
Dx: osteoarthritis, bursitis in left hip, Osteoarthrits in right hip, compression fracture in thoracic spine due to falling on frozen ground March 2001 , ddd, spinal stenosis, bone spurs, osteoarthritis in spine, osteoarthritis in both knees

CRANKY 1
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   Posted 3/9/2011 12:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Loretta,
I was prescribed both the Voltaren Gel and the Lidoderm patches for my bad knees, but neither is covered under my drug plan, which is utterly ridiculous.  I found that the cost of filling both prescriptions is just not feasible on my disability income, especially with all the other medications that I already require.  Although I have used both medications successfully in the past, unfortunately for me these days, the cost of basic survival limits my ability to pay for anything not covered by my prescription plan these days.  I just have to suck it up, and that's a crappy way to live if you ask me.  Hope you are able to afford these meds...they really do work well.
 
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Tirzah
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   Posted 3/9/2011 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
The Voltaren tablets are approved for more conditions than the gel. Maybe that would be an option? If not, there are $30 off coupons for 6 months at www.voltarengel.com/consumer/default.aspx. I think Voltaren's about $35, so after the discount it'd be $5/month.

Also, some insurers will approve Lidoderm patches if certain conditions have been met. That might be something your doctor can look into.

Regarding combining medications, you can check out www.pcab.info/find-a-pharmacy.shtml for a list of accredited compounding pharmacies in your area. Not all compounding pharmacies are specially accredited; you could always ask your doctor or post your location to the board if you need more choices.

take care,
Tirzah

grainofsalt
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   Posted 3/9/2011 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Capsian creams are supposed to stimulate Mu pain receptor endorphins. I'm not so sure they are really that effective for pain, but keep in mind that some people experience a slight euphoric feeling from eating exceptionally strong hot wings. Endorphin production is also supposed to be stimulated by TENS units, although a different type (I believe its D receptor endorphins) that basically act as masking agents. On low frequencies, the Mu receptor endorphins can be produced, but it takes longer and requires stronger current.
 
Diflonac patches did help me out, but they take a while to kick in and they are somewhat irritating to the skin. Still a good backup to have if additional pain relief is needed.
MRI revealed disc bulge and test injections revealed RA. Radio Freq procedures have decreased the severity of pain by about 1/3rd. currently on 75 mgs of Nucynta (tapentadol) 3 time per day. Works as well as 10 mgs of hydrocodone, less addictive, no tylenol, but schedule II. Also take Alieve OFTEN, much better than Ibu.

Retired Mom
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   Posted 3/9/2011 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I did use the Voltaren, but developed an allergy to it. It seemed to do a pretty good job on the hands and knees. The lidocaine patches did nothing but cost me a small fortune in co-pays.

I have found that plain on aspercream works better than any of the others for me right now. Of course, that's with all of the other meds I take. I also like (for back pain) the spray/gel/cream they give me at the physical therapist's office (I can't remember the name). I've not found it except there, but CVS had something called Freeze It spray that worked pretty well. I can't use the capsasin because it takes the skin off....yuck.

Good luck!
Failed fusion L5-S1, Pituatary damage, HGH Def, Fibro, Bladder surgery failure, Nissen Failure, GERD, OCPD, GAD, MDD, CTS (Bilateral Surgery completed), CFS, TMJ, Migraines, Vit D, A, Magnesium deficiency, Pre-glaucomic (sp?), HBP, Idiopatic Reactive Hypoglycemia, Edema, too many Drug/Food allergies, sensitivites, and current meds to list.

momtofourangels
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   Posted 3/9/2011 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the ideas. I appreciate it. I'm going to look up the Difonac patches. I've never heard of those.

Take care everyone.

love and hugs
Loretta
Dx: osteoarthritis, bursitis in left hip, Osteoarthrits in right hip, compression fracture in thoracic spine due to falling on frozen ground March 2001 , ddd, spinal stenosis, bone spurs, osteoarthritis in spine, osteoarthritis in both knees
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