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fish29
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   Posted 4/8/2011 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum, but not new to pain.
It all started with a fall 3-4 years ago, I never remember the exact year! And I started to develop some mild-annoying pelvic and lower back pain. It got progressively worse and after exhaustive search for answers I was FINALLY (30+ docs later) diagnosed with tethered cord syndrome. The syndrome is a neurological disorder, usually congenital where your spinal cord it stretched very low and does not move. It causes bladder nerve damage, leg nerve damage.. and severe pain. I had surgery last year and everything was great. However the surgery does not improve pain, and I was prepared for that. I am on morphine which controls the lower back pain, and Neurontin and Baclofen which helps with spasms and nerve pain.

Here's the thing... I have now developed something secondary- some kind of fibromylagia or?? I have severe all over pain, pain while sitting, stiffness... (among 10 other things)
And I am just beside myself trying to figure this out.

At age 34 I have lost all will to live. There is nothing that motivates me anymore, and it's not really clinical depression- it's more like I don't want to spend the next 10 years searching for an answer of what this is, and how to treat it.
I tried to find a physician that will listen to me, they say I should go and have massage etc.. well I go for massage already!!! Nothing is working- injections etc.. the only thing I have is increasing my pain medication.

Is anyone going through this? Is anyone just "at the end" of it?

Chartreux
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   Posted 4/8/2011 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
A lot of us here deal with this issue, with the cp in our lives.
Have you ever seen a psychologist, I've been going to a pain
management psychologist now and it helps, I also get out to
the Fibro, meetings, do a search for loco support groups, they can help.
I have felt at the end of my rope several times and cp can make those
feelings harder to deal with, but I urge you so seek out professional help,
it's out there along with support groups, you do have things to look forward to
and you need hope, hope is out there, have you tried accupuncture for
help with your pain? do you use heat packs, tens units??? Massage therapy accually
made me worse, it wasn't right for me either...Have you tried natural dietary aids
for your cp, such as tart cherry juice, vitamins B & D, and Omega 3.....Hopfully you'll
get a low pain day soon...tell your doctor about the new sitting stiffness at your next doc appointment.
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fish29
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   Posted 4/8/2011 11:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks... yes I have tried all of the above. I have 2 tens units. Nothing seems to help. I am getting very frustrated. I really feel like I am in a corner. My job is suffering, my relationships. It's very tiring. I have seen one psychologist a long time ago, but decided not to go back. I guess that is something I should look at.
Also I do go back to pain management next week, and I want to make it very clear this time that I cannot continue to do this ie. get up every day and deal with this.

Chutz
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   Posted 4/8/2011 12:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Chompers!

I'm so sorry you're at such a low point in your life. Pain and the problems controlling it can make life absolutely miserable. But, if I may disagree with you politely? Your comments:

"At age 34 I have lost all will to live. There is nothing that motivates me anymore, and it's not really clinical depression"

Chompers, I'm not a doctor but I do understand some of the basic signs of clinical depression and at the top of the list are: losing the will to live and no motivation or interest in things you once did.

I went through a very bad time when my oldest son passed away but I was determined to tough it out and I cold handle the feelings all by myself. Even though I have a wonderful doc I was NOT depressed, just very sad and didn't much care if I lived or not. Who wouldn't be. Even though Doc offered me antidepressant medication I declined. After nearly 2 years I couldn't live with those awful feelings, crying all the time and literally having no life and not caring. Once I allowed him to help it's been so much better. I still have bad days/times but nothing like before.

Might I suggest you seek some help on this problem. Also, if you have signs of fibromyalgia (which I have) you need to see a rheumatologist who treats fibro. Make sure you ask about his/her treatment of the fibro because there still are doctors living in the dark ages who don't "believe" in fibro! Not many but enough to really mess up many people's lives.

I do hope you are able to find the help you need. And when you see your PM doc be clear about your needs. One other thing that often get the doctor to actually listen is to keep a pain journal and take it with you to each appointment. Ask them to look it over each time you go. If they don't want to bother then find a new doctor. You can find links to free pain journal pages you can download and print in the CP 101 thread. But here's the link so you don't have to look it up right now.

www.painfoundation.org/learn/publications/files/TargetDailyLog.pdf

Record your pain daily and this will show the doctors your daily pain plus they will see that you are serious about needing help.

Good luck,
Chutz
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Blessedx8
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   Posted 4/8/2011 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Chompers....
 
I hear what you are saying in your post.... and, by the way, welcome and I'm glad you reached out and posted. 
 
I'm almost 38 years old.  I had a wonderfully active life - full of raising kids, teaching classes, volunteering at church and so forth and so on.  I got very ill 8 years ago and remain the same, actually worse. 
 
I get what you are saying.  There are days when I don't want this anymore.  Just when I think I've accepted this "new life"....the dark clouds come in and I just don't want this anymore.  I think - if I feel this now (at 38)....what the heck am I going to be like at 45?  50?  etc.  I've been through the whole thing, too - physical therapy, massage, injections, nerve blocks - and loads and loads of meds.
 
All that said - I do suffer from depression - and it's a direct result of being young and dealing w/ a chronic illness.  If I don't take my meds, I stay in bed and can't get out - because, like you said, I have no will to go on.  I withdraw from the world.  My relationships suffer.  All the things you mentioned.   On my meds, though, I can at least function and put one foot in front of the other.  Some days, it's not easy.  On those days - I try to find "success" in the simplest things.  If I can pick up the house.... get a load of laundry done.... love on my children.... whatever it is - I just accept that it was all I could do for the day - and that the next day will be better. 
 
Life's not easy living with all of this, I know.  But I would really, really encourage you to rethink the whole "depression" aspect.  When a chronic illness/pain impacts your entire life - who wouldn't be depressed???  Have you ever tried an anti-depressant??  Therapy is good, too, but finding the "right" person is key.  I've seen some crappy therapists, too.
 
When many of us here have been at our lowest.... we lean on each other for support.  Please continue to reach out and let others here help you.  So many of us have been where you are - literally at the end of our ropes.  I wish I could do more for you... but I will hold you in my thoughts and prayers.... and hope to hear more from you....
Love, Tina
Many, many health and pain issues.
Many meds - including Atenolol, Effexor, MS Contin, Dilaudid, Actiq (oral Fentanyl), Soma, Vitamin D, Iron (for anemia), Synthroid...and on the list goes.
Personal: I'm a Christian wife and mother; I have six sons and identical twin daughters.

fish29
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   Posted 4/8/2011 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your opinions.
I know I am not "clinically" depressed- is what I was trying to say. I was on major antidepressants when I was 24-26 because I had clinical depression so bad I could not get out of bed. Now it's just this realization that I don't want to continue this way.

I am sure all of you know how the story goes with chronic pain. You lose everything, which is bad enough, but then you have physicians who either won't listen to you, or simply set aside your concerns as minor.
The journal is a great idea- thank you :)

Things just are not the same, and maybe I can accept not being #1 at my company, and missing some social functions... but this lack of care? I just don't know if I can continue pushing myself so hard and not have anyone supporting me.

Tirzah
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   Posted 4/8/2011 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers,
I feel for you. I turn 34 in a couple months & it's all just very hard at times. I've been dealing with this now for 13 years and it's just draining sometimes.

I'm not sure what your financial/insurance situation is, but if you can cover it, my suggestion would be to up the meds. I've fought that so often & it's just not worth it. No one can be happy when they are in horrible beyond belief pain. Get the help you need with that first. Beyond that, there are some good counselors out there. A pain psychologist can maybe give some additional suggestions beyond "get a massage". Also, seeing a therapist might also help; I know it helps me when I can afford to go. I've been trying to look at my condition differently lately.
I've been looking through materials about disabilities & came across one by a lady with Down's Syndrome. She said that separate from the fact that it makes many things more difficult & there are people who say really mean & hurtful things to her, that she sees Down's as a blessing. It took me a while to accept that, but having worked with children with Down's, I can see how that could be true. They have such pure hearts & a wonderful ability to read people's intentions. They are very kind.
I've realized that to a certain point my condition is the same. Not the painful part of it -- there's nothing that's a blessing in that -- but the limitations. It frees me up to do other things with my time and my life. I wouldn't have chosen to do so many things from home had I not had Chiari. And I realize now that would have been a shame.

I don't say these things to criticize you or tell you how to feel. Not at all. It is a process & I myself still have many years ahead of me to try to sort through this all. But getting counseling can help free up some of that negative, drag-you-down energy to do positive, enjoyable things with your life. It's too hard to see the good when you are right in the thick of pain & loss & the unknown. That's why it's helpful to have an outsider serve as a sounding board & a second point of view on things.

Of course, it is my hope and prayer for everyone here that they would find out the cause of their pain and be able to completely get rid of it without the cost or negative consequences that often accompany medication, surgery or other treatments. But I also pray that none of us miss out on the joys of living during the months, years &, sometimes, decades between onset and a resolution (if there ever is one). Life is so precious. Your life is precious. We all believe that & the people here in the HW community are wonderful about offering support and sharing each others' joys and sorrows. So, let me welcome you and encourage you to keep posting; I hope you find the peace and healing I have found & continue to find from the other members in this forum.

hugz & prayers,
tirzah

PS -- I also belong to the Depression Forum. Know you are welcome & invited to join us over there as well. :) The posts are a bit less frequent than in CP, but I have found they are always kind and gentle responses from warm-hearted people fighting the awful disease that is depression.

fish29
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   Posted 4/8/2011 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh you have Chiari? I don't know if you know this.. but I have tethered cord... a "cousin" of yours! I was just tested for Chair, but nothing :)

I will go over to that forum also, and as for the suggestion about meds, you may be right. I haven't had them adjusted in 3 months. I think morphine should be adjusted 10MG a month.

I have been having 4 weeks of just PAIN and I think it's getting to me :)

You guys are all amazing, thank you for being here!

Tirzah
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   Posted 4/8/2011 3:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers,
Have you seen a neuropsychiatrist? That was a good piece of the puzzle for me. I don't fully understand what tethered cord is, but depending on how similar it is to Chiari, that may be a piece of the "depression"/down feelings. The issues with CSF flow impacted hormones & neurochemicals, which made feeling positive that much harder. The neuropsych was able to give suggestions that took that into account.

There are some great new studies with ketamine. I have a topical solution that I rub on the back of my neck/head. It's great for pain, but also has shown a lot of promise for depression. I also use it for low back pain. It's a compounded med & usually isn't covered by insurance but I love it. It runs me about $75 for 3 months worth. Well worth it, imo!

Craniosacral therapy helped some. It is a specialized massage that is very gentle. It is for blocked CSF flow. Feels really, really good. :) There is special training for people to learn how to do it. Make sure you pick a therapist/osteopath/chiro who got the special training. Lots of therapists get maybe one class worth of training on it & are not very good.

Cervical traction sometimes helps me too. I got home units for cervical traction & lumbar traction. My insurance covered them. The rep came to my home to demo it & set it up. I love the one for lumbar pain. The one for my neck pain has been harder to adjust to. When I do it right, it feels great and even though it's on my neck it helps my mid & low back too.

I know none of those are answers, but I mostly try to focus on what will alleviate symptoms. Those are what's worked for me (besides oral meds). Thought I'd share them in case you want to discuss options with your doc. good luck! ;)

fish29
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   Posted 4/8/2011 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Tethered cord is a neurological disorder of the spinal cord. The cord is pulled down by fat and can't move. So when you move it stretches instead of moving with you. It can cause nerve damage.
People with tethered cord can have Chiari and connective tissue disorders, the cord can pull the brain down also, if it's not a congenital thing.

I will ask about the katemine on the 12th. Did you have a hard time getting this from your physician? I am on morphine right now.

Thank you!

Tirzah
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   Posted 4/8/2011 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Nope. My first PM was the one who suggested it. My second PM didn't blink. I found out that the 10% solution was too high (it made me itchy) so the compounding pharmacist suggested an 8% solution. My PM had to call b/c he had never done an 8% solution before, but it wasn't a big deal.
Ketamine gels are not at all controversial in the pain community. In the mental health community it's totally different -- people have very mixed feelings. But if you bring it up to your pain doc, there shouldn't be any issues, especially if he's already writing for you to have morphine.

NiNi53
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   Posted 4/8/2011 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers23, as you make your way to the doctor who you like, get the meds that you need, i know its hard to see but there is a place you will get to and adjustments you will make in your life to get the best quality of life you can.  this is a daunting task but there is an end to it, you will make peace with your life as it is, and find new ways to do old things, or simply new ways to anything.  we have physical limitations, this is a fact,  i spent the first 2-4 years only leaving my house to go to doctors appointments.  when i could not work outside the home anymore it was difficult to find value for myself.  then i took the covers off and knew that my life though limited in things i used to enjoy, i played softball on a league, i bowled on a league etc.  but that wasnt the only part of me.  i dont mean to sound like "little mary sunshine", but you will learn just as all of us cp patients have that your life has value you simply have to change somethings to find it.  i have good days (like today) and i have horrible days because i am living with my youngest daughter, and although i contribute what i can, it is very little financially.  i know the only she lets me contribute at all is for me, not because she needs the financial help.  i have learned to cook, and i must say i have gotten very good at it.  maybe tomorrow i wont be so "chipper", but i know even if i dont sometime soon i will. i know the doctors, insurance companies are a pain but a necessary one.  most definetly check about the fibromylagia, i thought i was crazy when i first had symptoms.  my sister who is a licensed massage therapist advised me to take at that time i think it was 18 questions, if you have 14 to 18 of the symptoms anyway im not sure what they do now.  my sister cant even work on my back, i would be screaming with pain. so good luck, you are to young to throw in the towel.  please seek the help you need, and stay with this cp forum and any others on healingwell this is the best thing thats happened to me in years. i know i ramble hope i helped.

Rhaevin
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   Posted 4/9/2011 2:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Chompers, and welcome to the family.
 
Alot of what you had to say struck home for me. For over 3 years now I have dealt with chronic pain, my new best friend I love to hate, and all the baggage that it brought to my life ... or should I say my new life, as the one I knew is totally gone. Infact it wasn't even until a year and a half ago that I finally found a doctor who could tell me what was wrong with me.
 
I suffer from CRPS, an evil condition that causes incredible pain constantly in one affected location ... and it spreads with time. When I was originally hurt on the job it was supposed to just be tendonitis. But as time went on I didn't get better, infact I got worse. No one could tell me what was wrong, all my tests came back normal, and I was refered to doctor after doctor. Some of them treated me poorly ... like I was wasting their time ... one flat out told me "I can't find anything wrong with you, there for your fine." That one got my workman's comp case closed, but the pain wouldn't go away. I could sit there and show him my hands, and everyone else could see that one hand was a totally different color then the other and swollen severely, but he didn't see it, and one time he even said "You were obviously doing something to your hand before I came in here to make it look like that."
 
I have had one man walk out of my life, telling me effectively that he didn't believe I was hurt; I was a hypocondriac, I was faking it, I was lying, I was being lazy. I had a husband leave me after he said he never would, that he understood my condition and he'd take care of me. He was also the one that told me I had to give up anything I enjoyed doing that put me in pain because, and I quote, "Your pain gets in the way of my happiness". As a single mother I have tried to expain to my son constantly that I can not rough-house with him... I can't even play video games with him.
 
In over 3 years I have watched my pain go from just affecting my hand and wrist to include my elbow, and eventually my shoulder, and now part of my neck and an extended swath of my shoulder that travels down to include the shoulder blade and the clavical; all on my right side ... and I'm right handed.
 
I'll be 38 in a few weeks now, and depression is a daily battle. The narcotics I've lived off of for the last 3+ years haven't helped, nor all the emotional stress and physical stress. When I first learned I had CRPS I broke down and cried to a close friend of mine:
 
"I'm a single Mom in her late 30's who's permanently disabled... who will ever want someone like me? What do I have to offer to anyone?" His responce was touching. "Your love. Your caring, your fiery passion, your intellect, your companionship." He's right, but that does not comfort the guilt I feel at times for fear that I am a burden to those I love.
 
I recently had a surgeon tell me he can trace a path from what I suffer today back to my original injury, and suggested I consider re-opening my workman's comp case. I declined. He told me it would probably help off-set all my medical costs given Medicare doesn't have the greatest of coverage. Again, I declined, but when asked why my simple answer was enough to make him drop the topic. "Because I would have to give up seeing the doctor's I want to see. I've already seen their pain doctor, and he's the one who treated me as if I were a head case and just out to use the system or was some drug user/abuser." I have a good pain management doctor who understands my concerns for my quality of life; I wouldn't part with him for anything.
 
I worry that perhaps you do not have the same sort of relationship with your pain doctor, or whomever it is you see. If you are not getting the care you need to treat your pain issues you may need to seriously consider finding one that will work with you, to assure as best a quality of life as you are permitted.
 
Over the last few months my depression has gotten real bad, and I fully intend to discuss this with my pain doctor when I see him next week and ask him to add an anti-depressant.
 
I know how frustrating it can be feeling like you have no answers, that no one can help you, but please, please, do not lose hope! The future looks daunting, I know when I look at my own I am not always thrilled with what I see as a potential, but I try not to consider that. Instead I try to make the most of each day, to enjoy the little things. I can not do much, and certainly with the coming summer heat I will slow down on my productivity, but I know alot of us here have found little things we do as either a source of small income, or as just a way to feel good making things to give to others. Do you have something like that? Some people knit or crochet, make jewelry, one lady even makes teddy bears.
 
Know that you've found a good place here. An incredible wealth of knowledge and experiences, and a source of support and compassion that helps us all get through our darkest moments. The people here are folks you can laugh and cry with, and are always there even if all you need to do is vent.  Just remember, you're not alone. I know from my own experience that finding this place saved me, emotionally; finally, people that understood what I was going through and having to deal with!
 
Just remember -- Sing as if no one were listening, Dance as if no one were watching, Love with out fear, and Live each day as if it were your last.
 
*gentle hugs*
Originally injured 10/26/2007 - Initial diagnosis; Tendonitis
Spent next year seeing specialist after specialist; Bone, Muscle, Hand, Neurologist, Chriopractor, Physical Therapist...
Went through a battery of tests, multiple MRI's
11/16/09 I was finally diagnosed CRPS - Stage 2
Permanently disabled, on Percoset.
February 2011 successful SCSU trial
No surgeon willing to do my SCSU Implant

CRPSpatient
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   Posted 4/9/2011 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers, I too wanted to welcome you to the group.

My story is very similar to Rhaevin's. I also have Complex Regional Pain Syndrome - I'm 26 and I've been dealing with this now for 12 years. I have been there, at the end of my rope, and I'm sorry that that's where you're finding yourself at the moment. It's a horrid place to be *gentle hugs*

Laura
CRPS since 1999, diagnosed in 2005 and since spread to full body, spasms, dystonia & contractures, gastroparesis, orthostatic hypotension.

On Oxycontin/Endone, Topamax, Mobic, Magnesium, Florinef, Somac, Cipramil. Have a spinal cord stimulator, intrathecal pump with baclofen & bupivacaine and doing physio.

straydog
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   Posted 4/9/2011 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Chomper your post sounds like everyone of us by the time we found Healing Well's chronic pain forum. I think by the responses you have received from everyone, you now see there are a whole lot of us out there suffering with CP. CP has a way of making us feel isolated, that is just one of the many things that go along with CP. At least by coming here you know you are not alone. Every one of us at some point felt like we just could not continue on as we were but we realized we must. Unless a miracle happens, CP will be a part of our lives every single day.

Depression and CP go hand in hand for some reason. You may or may not know this. Most of us here at the forum have had to go on medication to help us be able to smooth out the rough edges. There are many stages of CP, all the issues and processes we go through getting from point A to point B and so on. Some of these are easy and some are hard. One of the hardest things to deal with is mourning our losses, loss of jobs, health, financial security, friends, our old way of life, this is just a few of things we will mourn getting through this process. I had to find a good psychologist to help me learn these things and learn how to cope and accept them. All I knew was suddenly I felt like my life had been snatched from me and I was not dealing with it well at all. Thanks to this wonderful lady, she helped me get my feet planted back on solid ground. It was not easy, but then nothing worth having is ever easy. In reality I am still the same person, I just have to do most things a different way and I sure do look at things in a different light now. I am quite sure there is a lot of good left in you and your life is not over, it just feels that way right now, but believe me, you still have so much life to live and so much to give. You just need some help finding your way. Acceptance is a big hurdle to jump and get over, once you get there, life is easier, realizing life changes and we must change with it is every day living.

If you were to line up every member on this forum and ask them if they liked having to be put on medications in order to have some quality life you would find none of us ever wanted that or ever thought we would be on medication. We do not like having to have our meds increased but that is part of reality with CP as well. You have to find what dosage works, its not a one size fits all situation. Never sell yourself short and think you should just suck it up and deal with the pain, that only leads to trouble.

You have been given some excellent tips here by the other members, I just wanted to pop on and tell you welcome aboard. Take care and keep us posted on how you are doing.
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Hound-Dog
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   Posted 4/11/2011 3:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Chompers23 :Somewhere around six years after I started being on large doses of morphine for pain, I started sinking into a depression that just wouldn't let up.My Dr. gave me a series of blood tests and found out that I had seriously low levels of thyroid and testosterone hormones.It sure made a positive difference to my problem after about six weeks of hormone replacement therapy and I continue it to this day.It's been six more years since then, with ever larger doses of morphine to handle my pain but the depression is virtually gone.
I hope your Dr. can find the problem and is able to make your life more livable.May God bless you and take care...........Rod 

fish29
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   Posted 4/11/2011 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
After reading these responses I am honored to be part of a group of people like this.
You have all inspired me.

I will discuss all this with my doctor tomorrow and be very frank with her as to what I need. I don't believe my pain is controlled at all because we are not really changing the dose. My friend who is an ER physician told me the dose should be increased by 10MG every month. I have not done that.

The thing that got me that day, which I never mentioned is that I was told I need to get approval in order to have a child from my neurosurgeon and high risk OB. I will have to be sedated (can't have epidural) and have a C-Section- if my physicians allow it.
It really got to me.

But after reading all this I know I need to be strong, reach out and conquer this.

CRPS is very serious, I know that your pain must be 10X worse than mine, and I really admire your strength and being able to reach out and support ME, who you don't even know :)

Blessedx8
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   Posted 4/11/2011 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers....

Re: pregnancy and all of that... I've had many experiences while pregnant...dealing w/ chronic pain (severe back issues, migraines and fibro); dealing with being on medications; I've had 7 c-sections; I've had all sorts of different experiences w/ doctors and on the list goes. When I got pregnant last February (2010) - and then found out it was twins - I was encouraged by my doctors to terminate the pregnancy due to my medical history and all the "possible" complications. Now, I have beautiful identical twin daughters. It wasn't easy by any means...but we made it through.

Point being, when/if you reach the point to start exploring having a child.... my e-mail is listed here; please feel free to contact me. In addition, you can also search my posts here and see some of the things I went through.

We are all pulling for you :) Take good care --Tina
Many, many health and pain issues.
Many meds - including Atenolol, Effexor, MS Contin, Dilaudid, Actiq (oral Fentanyl), Soma, Vitamin D, Iron (for anemia), Synthroid...and on the list goes.
Personal: I'm a Christian wife and mother; I have six sons and identical twin daughters.

straydog
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   Posted 4/12/2011 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Chompers how did the dr appt go today, have been thinking about you. Please let us know.
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Valdds
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   Posted 7/5/2011 11:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Tirzah,

I am new to the forum and don't know how to contact you. In an old post you stated that you are anemic and your PCP thought it was due to an ulcer and not your hypothyroidism.

I want you to know that pernicious anemia is a "common finding in hypothyroidism..." It can be due to decreased production of erythropoietin and depression of bone marrow, or macrocytic, as a consequence of deficiency of vitamin B12 and folate.. It can also be due to poor iron absorption secondary to achlohydria from being hypothyroid or caused be heavy periods. THis is according to the textbook Autoimmune Diseases in Endocrinology edited by Anthony P Weetman, MD, DSc
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