percocet withdrawl

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cookiequeen
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   Posted 4/10/2011 1:48 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been addicted to percocet for about 5 years. I have a herniated disc in my right shoulder and started taking percerot over 5 years ago. I want off the meds so bad but i am scared of the withdrawl symptoms. I take up to 70mg a day. I know my kidneys are in bad shape but nobody knows I am addicited and i cant tell anyone. What are the sever withdrawl symptoms I am going to go throu and how long will they last? Is there anything I can take to curve the withdrawl symptoms? I am very scared to go at this alone. Can i quit cold turkey cause I dont really have a choice.
 
Please help

Blessedx8
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   Posted 4/10/2011 2:25 AM (GMT -6)   
cookiequeen....
 
I admire you for reaching out and realizing that you need to make some changes to your situation.  That's a huge step.  It sounds like you do have chronic pain.... Do you have a pain managment doctor?  Most of here w/ chronic pain also take pain medication - and the line between dependence and addiction has been discussed here many times.  Are you getting your meds from a doctor?  Given the quantity you are on - I'm thinking not. 
 
The amount of acetaminophen that you are consuming on a daily basis is very scary and can be life threatening; that scares me even more than the amount of oxycodone.  Like I said, I'm glad you realize you need to make some changes.
 
Going cold turkey is never the ideal situation, and in many cases - can be down right dangerous.  Do you have enough meds that you can taper off the meds?  For instance, decreasing by one pill over the course of a week or two....until you are finally off of them.  I'd obviously advise you to do this under a doctor's care - but I don't know your situation.
 
Withdrawal sucks - there's really no other way to say it.  Especially when you've been on something for years and years.  There's been a couple of times when I was traveling and my meds got delayed.... and I thought I was going to die.  Withdrawal can cause severe anxiety, feeling like your skin is crawling, chills, diarrhea/vomiting/etc, severe watery eyes, yawning like crazy and on the list goes.  If you search the archives here - you can see things that others have done to ease such symptoms (warm baths; different patches and so forth). 
 
In terms of how long these symptoms last - that's a real tough question.  Some will go through a few days of hell and then start feeling better within a week or so.  Some withdrawal lasts much longer. 
 
I'm sorry.... I have to go for now.... but I'm worried for you - because I know how truly miserable and/or dangerous withdrawal can be.  I'm proud of you for realizing you need to make changes - but I sure wish you could do it under the care of a trained physician...I know that's not always possible.... but please promise you'll go to an ER if things get too bad.
 
Good luck .... and please keep us posted.  --Tina
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straydog
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   Posted 4/10/2011 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
cookiequeen, Tina is right , you should not quit the percocet cold turkey at all. Please go to your PCP and explain what has happened and get him/her to give you some meds to help you with withdrawal so you can get off of them safely. Some medications can cause seizures when stopped abruptly, therefore, this is why it should be done under the supervision of a dr, too many things can happen.

Anyway, I wanted to pop on and tell you welcome aboard and I really wish you the best.
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NiNi53
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   Posted 4/10/2011 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
cookiequeen please under no circumstance go cold turkey.  its not only dangerous to your health more like than not you will not succeed. it wont be because you dont want to withdrawal is severe and since you have chronic pain with your shoulder that coupled with the pain of withdrawal makes it very difficult to stop.  i went the cold turkey way with vicoden es back in the early days of my back being injured.  i had been on vicoden es approx. by this time it was 2-3 months steady in 1993-1994somewhere around that time.  i have never been so miserable in my life and even my doctor at the time he was my gp advised me not to just stop.  the first week i really felt like i was going to die, sometimes almost wishing it. even after a month had gone by most of the withdrawal symptoms  had somewhat faded, but i was in so much pain in my lower back i could barely function. at the months end i went back to my gp and he then began putting me on meds that were extended release meds along with another for breakthru pain.  they were both narcotic meds and i found extended release meds much more manageable.  please take the advice of the others who have advised you not to stop on your on.  also please find a pm doctor and take care of your needs. you will find your quality of life much better. take care of yourself, my thoughts will be with you.
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.

mrsm123
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   Posted 4/10/2011 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Withdrawal from opiates is not dangerous unless you have underlying medical conditions such as high blood pressure or heart disease. It is uncomfortable, no doubt there but it is not dangerous. The only dangerous withdrawl is from benzodiazepeins, xanax, valium and the like.
It is uncomfortable, but the symptoms can be managed by using over the counter medications to counteract some of the symptoms- anti diarreheals to manage the gastric problems, vitamins and supplements to manage the restless legs and the aches and pains.
If you have someone who can be responsible and only give you doses of medications at times intervals, you can try to do a taper, but it doesn't sound like that would work in your situation.
The best option, however is to talk to your doctor and he can give you some short term medications that help with the worst of the symptoms.
The good news is that opiate withdrawal is usually short lived, meaning that the worst of the symptoms is over in a few days and then you slowly start feeling more like your normal self by the 5th day.
I would strongly recommend that you see your doctor, especially if you don't think that you can do this on your own.
NA is also a great option for support while you work on the issues surrounding your over use.
Motorcycle accident 1992, Back problems from 92 to 2005. August 2005- early 2006- Chiropractor care
March 2006- consult with surgeon -PLIF/TLIF L4-5, spondylolysthesis, canal and foraminal stenosis, multiple herniations
Post Op Cauda Equina Syndrome
Revision August 2007- salvage op
March 2011- 2nd onset of Cauda Equina Syndrome
Needs surgery to prevent paralysis

Blessedx8
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   Posted 4/10/2011 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Sometimes people drop in here in a "crisis mode" and then don't return.  That could be the case here... but I wanted to add one more thing.  Again, sometimes I feel in left field, alone w/ my opinions :) 
 
I know withdrawal from opiates doesn't usually bring the same "dangers" as withdrawing from benzos and such (seizures and such).  But I think opiate withdrawal can be really underestimated at times.  First, you can have underlying medical conditions that you don't know about until you are in opiate withdrawal. 
 
Second, I've had withdrawal so bad one time that it literally WAS dangerous.  We had just moved from Colorado...and I was being seen at Stanford here in CA, and there was a mix up in my meds.  I thought I could make it through w/out my meds until the mix-up got solved (ummmm, wrong).  I literally ended up in the ER, having 8mg of Dilaudid slammed into me IV, multiple times to end my w/drawal symptoms.  The nurses had never administered such doses in their entire careers.  Now - I know this isn't the norm.... but I just want to say that opiate withdrawal isn't always so cut and dry.

Sometimes, I think we say that withdrawal is uncomfortable.... you'll get some diarrhea... muscle aches... but that it will get better in a few days.  For some, that IS all that will happen.  But there are many variations and that's why I hate to hear of anyone going off meds cold turkey. 
 
I agree w/ Sandi - NA may be a great resource in this particular case and give you some other options.
 
But - for most chronic pain patients trying to come off meds - please do it safely, under a doctor's guidance, tapering down.  Please don't quit cold turkey.  Please use your meds appropriately and safely.  
 
cookiequeen - I really wish you the best.... and if you come back to the board.... please know we care and feel free to keep posting and letting us support you.  Many thoughts - Tina
Many, many health and pain issues.
Many meds - including Atenolol, Effexor, MS Contin, Dilaudid, Actiq (oral Fentanyl), Soma, Vitamin D, Iron (for anemia), Synthroid...and on the list goes.
Personal: I'm a Christian wife and mother; I have six sons and identical twin daughters.

cookiequeen
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   Posted 4/11/2011 5:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you to everyone who has posted me back! Tina I really really appericate your thoughts and that you you took the time to write me back. I am going to a new dr today and hopefully I can be honest with him and explain my situation. I just hope the dr doesn't tell me I need rehab because that is not what I need. Percocets do not controll my life but help me feel pain free. Being pain free has helped me to be extremly successful in my job and just complete grad school. I do not use any other drugs, never have never will! The drs want to do surgery but I am only 28 and I do not want them cutting open my shoulder. I am going to try and tapper off the drugs and i promise if the withdrawl gets real bad I will seek medical help. Words cant explain enough what it means that you have posted back to my first post. I will keep you posted!!

Blessedx8
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   Posted 4/11/2011 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
cookiequeen -
 
Thanks for your update and your kind words :)  I've been thinking of you.  It sounds like you are doing all of the right things.  Let us know how your doctor apointment goes today.  I PRAY you get a new doc that will listen and help you.   Try to point out exactly what you said here; that you don't feel "addicted".... just undermedicated - and that you need help in order to have a better quality of life. 
 
Will be thinking good thoughts for you today; update when you can.  Take care of yourself!  Love, Tina
Many, many health and pain issues.
Many meds - including Atenolol, Effexor, MS Contin, Dilaudid, Actiq (oral Fentanyl), Soma, Vitamin D, Iron (for anemia), Synthroid...and on the list goes.
Personal: I'm a Christian wife and mother; I have six sons and identical twin daughters.

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   Posted 4/12/2011 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   
 
 
         Good morning cookiequeen!
 
                I wanted to wemcome you here as well, and was checking in on you this morning to see how you're appointment went yesterday.
 
        I too, take Percocet, and have heard the term "Percocet Flu" many times. I'm on Oxycontin, but do take the Percocet for BT and it only last a couple of hours at tops for me. Then the down hill slide is what makes me feel bad. Pain, combined with dependency can be a little rough at times.
 
       Of course we are scripted it, because we suffer from pain, not because we enjoy it. I have always hated taking pain meds, but it is really needed for any sort of quality of life if your suffering from pain.
 
      Take care, and do please check in with us and let us know how the meeting went.
 
    SE wink
         
"The clock is running. Make the most of today. Time waits for no man. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present."

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 4/12/2011 7:47:58 AM (GMT-6)


cookiequeen
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   Posted 4/13/2011 11:45 AM (GMT -6)   
So I went to a new dr today and he bascially told me that the pain isnt that bad and Im kinda full of it. i showed him the MRI results but he was skeptical and felt that I was lying about how bad my shoulder hurt! He told me I was just looking for drugs. he gave me a script for Lortab but only 20 pills and told me I should get into the gym and strengthin the muscle. He did schedule another MRI for next week just to be sure I really have a herniated disc (even thought he had the MRI results from the 1st time I had one) still at a loss and dont know what to do... I dont want to be that person who shops for dr who will prescribe me what I need. I understand I am only 28 years old and dont want to be addicited to pills but nobody had given me any other solutions to fix my shoulder. I dont think they realize how much pain I am really in. I need help on how to talk to a dr. I get so nervious and my heart races and then they think Im lying because my heart is racing. Any suggestions??????

straydog
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   Posted 4/13/2011 12:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh cookie, I am sorry the appt bombed I am a little confused you talk about a shoulder problem and I think you mentioned surgery on it and then above you wrote you have a herniated disc to show on your last MRI. Do yo have two problems going on here both your neck and shoulder?

My next thought would be to ask either this dr or your primary care dr to refer you to a pain mgt dr and let them take over your care. Pain mgt drs are more educated on treating people with pain than a PCP or even a specialist. Yes, with you being young many times these drs will look at your age and say oh you are too young to hurt like that. Well, they are wrong because pain does not have an age limit.

Let us hear from you.
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cookiequeen
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   Posted 4/13/2011 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes the pain is in my shoulder in the back side inside of my wing bone. I have herniated disc in the C3-4 narrowing the right neural foramen. The pain is also in my elbow and I have numbness in my ring and pinky finger which is a sign of nerve damage.

cookiequeen
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   Posted 4/24/2011 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Everyone just wanted to give an update on my status! So 2 weeks ago I was taking up to 70mg of percocet a day. I have tappered down to just 10mg once a day and I feel great!!! The first 4 days were brutial! The RLS is prob the worst part about the withdrawl but its def gets better! I went from 70mg down to 20mg in 1 day. Those first 4 days were very rough! I and currently doing the THOMAS recipe during the day and 1 10mg percocet around 6pm. The thomas recipe works wonders! I hope by next weekend I will be completly done with percocets!! Wish me luck!

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   Posted 4/24/2011 11:43 PM (GMT -6)   
It will be all woth it. I was on percocet for years. I got very addicted to them. I suffer from chronic pain still. I now use subutex whcih works wonders for pain and causes less addiction problems. If you look it up it's known as suboxen. Subutex is half of the med. You can read on the comments people have on it. It has given me a life back. If you had this pill then you would't have had any withdrawls from percocet. It's a very popular drug in rehab centers now. People dont mind withdrawls now because this will stop them. They are using it for chronic pain now, it was't really supposed to be set up like that. It was made for drug rehab( for opiates withdrawl).
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