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luckyflowers
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   Posted 6/8/2011 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   

I just wanted to get some clarification...I know some of you have told me this before..Snowbunny for one :-) but I just wanted to make sure I really understand..

 So, if Oxy and Percocet are the "same" per say then why do I get a stronger "loopy" affect when I take a Percocet vs. taking one Oxy 10mg? is it because the Oxy is time released and the percocet is released all at one time?

 That is how I understand it and just needed to make sure its correct.

Thanks!

 

 

 



 


Dx: Herniated disk in my neck C6-C7, Degenerative disc disease and arthritis in my neck, sciatica, RLS, migraines and post-op RNY gastric by pass and depression.

Meds: Oxy, Nortriptyline, percocet, norco, xanax(as needed), sinement, topamax, imitrex, and paxil

Personal: Single mom 43yrs old to three children- two girls 5 and 13 and my son 16yrs old. I work fulltime.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 6/9/2011 2:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Morning Lucky!

.....Well.....while the two med's share some of the same ingredient, (Oxycodone) they are not exactly the same. Your Percocet also includes another active ingredient called acetaminophen.
It too is a pain reliever of sorts....but I don't know the specifics on it. Oxycontin is, pure, time released Oxycodone.

If you are taking a #10 Oxycontin....which is the lowest dose by the way...then some of it is released right away and the rest is released slowly several hours later. I'm not sure how many mg is released at what particular time.

Now, ....if you're taking a 5mg Percocet....well then it is released right away....and should last in the neighborhood of around 4 to 6 hours at best...in most cases.

Are you taking them both at the same time? It really makes no difference which med you are taking...as you may experience the loopy feeling for a while until your body gets used to it....or you might always experience this, but not as bad after you have been on it for a while. As with all pain medications...there is a trade off......do you want pain relief?....or the fog?.....I myself, prefer the fog way over the pain! My pain is at a strong 7 without med's, and that is not pleasant, especially if you are working. Really...it's not pleasant, working or not....

Just chill, and like I said, give it some time before you make a decision on it....and remember your taking it for your pain. The choice will be yours in the end as to whether or not you want to continue to receive relief with these med's Be grateful if you are getting relief, as many have a hard time finding a med that will work for them. If you don't believe me, then visit with Suzane (tmjpain) for a bit....and then you will count your blessings.

Good luck!

Hope this helps!

SE
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luckyflowers
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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:03 AM (GMT -6)   
SE, Thanks...Shoot I hope or didn't mean to come across the wrong way...I was just wondering about the way it worked. I am the same as you, and don't mind the fog, vs the pain relief. I am still just trying to understand how it all works.

Thanks again for you input!

Have a great day!
Dx: Herniated disk in my neck C6-C7, Degenerative disc disease and arthritis in my neck, sciatica, RLS, migraines and post-op RNY gastric by pass and depression.

Meds: Oxy, Nortriptyline, percocet, norco, xanax(as needed), sinement, topamax, imitrex, and paxil

Personal: Single mom 43yrs old to three children- two girls 5 and 13 and my son 16yrs old. I work fulltime.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   
 
 
    Lucky..you didn't come across as anything....I just wanted to feed you as much information as I could, and my two cents worth. wink
 
         Let us know how it works out for you. If you need an adjustment, then by all means, contact you're Dr to get it. The only advice I would give you, is to make sure you stay on the lowest possible dosage, but not to the point that you're still in unbearable pain to work with.
 
       Good luck!
 
  SE wink
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Snowbunny21
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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lucky:)...

No worries about more questions...but just remember that we have our answers on here but it's always best if you have a true concern to speak with your Dr...

But yes...the Percocet is going to 'feel' stronger because it's released differently in your bloodstream..

Medicines have what is called a 'half life'...which is how long they stay in your system..

Percocet...as SE mentioned...also includes acetaminophen..(same thing in Tylenol)...with the oxycodone....and it's 'half life' is only 4-6 hours max....most of the time a bit less actually..

Are you taking a 5mg Percocet? Or a 10mg?

One 10mg Oxycontin releases the medicine in two separate time intervals for the first 6 hours....then the next 6 hours....

That is why medicines like Percocet, Vicoden, Norco, Lortab...are called IR (immediate release) or SA (short acting)....and made for break through pain...when there is an acute episode of pain..

Medicines like Oxycontin or MSContin...the 'contin' means continuous....and they are ER (extended release) or LA (long acting) medicines to last 12 hours...(sometimes only 8 and a Dr.s will move to prescribing 3 times a day intead of 2)...

I thought that you were getting the 'loopy' effect when you took the Oxycontin...and that's why you weren't taking it in the AM before?...

The 'loopy' effect for medicines...or fatigue...will usually go away after taking them for a few weeks....exactly as prescribed by a Dr....so for example...you were taking them here and there...or only at night....you never gave your body a chance to get acclimated.

As well as your body was going through this huge swing of medicine dosage then withdrawal....dosage then withdrawal....

This could account for some of your insomnia....or even if you sleep some...not feeling rested....your lack of consistent pain control...

That is why Dr.s prescribe medicines to be taken a certain way...to get the most amount of pain control through 24 hours...as well as having you do other things besides medicine to help your pain...we can't just look to a pill to do it all...

As SE has mentioned...if your DR. has your prescription to take the Oxycontin every 12 hours....then Percocet for Break through...I would follow this for the next weeks and then see how you are doing if you need a dosage change..

If you are at all feeling 'loopy'...then do not drive during that time...

Wish you luck:)
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

luckyflowers
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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry for the confusion...the first time I tried the Oxy during the am it made me feel strange, or weird...not loopy.. It is the percocet that makes me feel loopy and its 5-325.

Not to add more to the mix but I also know that meds absorb quicker for me since I am a post op gastric by pass patient. Sometime I forget that.

I have been taking the meds now for 4 months and still have that loopy feeling from the percocet...just strange is all, and like we have said I would take that any day over the pain..most of the time I am at home so its no big deal.

Thanks again...
Dx: Herniated disk in my neck C6-C7, Degenerative disc disease and arthritis in my neck, sciatica, RLS, migraines and post-op RNY gastric by pass and depression.

Meds: Oxy, Nortriptyline, percocet, norco, xanax(as needed), sinement, topamax, imitrex, and paxil

Personal: Single mom 43yrs old to three children- two girls 5 and 13 and my son 16yrs old. I work fulltime.

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 6/9/2011 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I forgot about your gastric surgery as well..yes...that can have an effect as well..

But unless you are having life threatening side effects like hives, trouble breathing, or fatigue so heavy that you are slurring words....(all this would signal an overdose of medication or severe allergic reaction)...

then as you say...if it's just a bit loopy or 'strange'...then that sounds pretty normal for a narcotic..

Keep in mind...you have been having this for 4 months probably because you were not taking them as presribed...you would take them all at night...or the largest dose at night..and then only taking a very tiny amount during the day...so your body has gone through withdrawals...and then when you put medicine in...it's like taking for the first time so you get a bit 'loopy'...


This might change now that you are taking them consistently and on schedule/as prescribed...and your body will have medicine in it at all times so it will get more used to it..

Just a thought:)...

I totally agree...I would take a bit loopy over a lot of pain any day of the week!!..The good part is you are learning more and more as well as working with your Dr...

It's an important reminder for all of us to ask questions...know what medicine we are taking...why we are taking it...why the Dr. prescribes it the way he does...etc..

Hope you have a good day!
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 
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