Narcotic Pain meds affecting me differently

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smithjr1981
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   Posted 6/15/2011 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone. I am new to this forum and hope to get some help with an explanation. I am a 29 year old male. I was born with right club foot, and have been on pain meds for it for the last 2 and a half years while waiting for another surgery to repair it again. I finally just had surgery on April 27th, of this year. First started out taking Norco 10/325 3 pills three times a day. Then moved to MS Contin. Now after surgery, I am on Percocet 10/325 and Oxy IR 5 mg. For about the first year I was on the Norco, everything was fine and they gave me a lot of energy. Now, everytime I take any pain meds they wear me out completely and leave me feeling like total crap. They just take all the energy out of me, and sometimes I feel like my heart is beating so slow that it's gonna quit, which makes me freak out causing me to have a panic attack and then my heart races. I have explained this to my doctor, but I don't know if he's not understanding me or what but he hasn't been able to figure out why they are causing this to happen to me. Please help anyone...I would greatly appreciate it as I am a little scared about taking any pain meds....which I need.

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 6/15/2011 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Smith...Welcome to HW...we are sorry that you have to be here because of pain...

If I can ask a few questions to help better understand...and only answer if you feel comfortable..

Is it one Dr. who is prescribing both the Percocet and the OxyIR? The reason I ask is it's the exact same short acting medicine...both 5mg oxycodone...the only difference is the Percocet has acetaminophen....so it's quite odd that a Dr. would do this with two different meds that are exactly the same...

What is the way they are having you take these during the day? How much in a 24hr period?

Is it the surgeon prescribing or do you see a Pain Management Dr. for chronic pain?

Going from Norco to both of these meds is a jump up in strength...and when you talk about your heart slowing...that can sometimes be because there is too much medicine in your system...

And I would just make a caution statement...with having been dealing with chronic pain for over 10 years....a narcotic isn't meant to really give you energy..or improve your mood....that can be a slippery slope if you seek those particular feelings when using these type of meds...

So...I will wait for a bit more info if you choose to help more on some suggestions...there are a wonderful group of people here of all ages who know what it's like to be in pain...so we are glad you found us!
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

smithjr1981
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   Posted 6/15/2011 6:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Snowbunny....It is the same Dr. Prescribing both of those meds...he told me to discontinue the percocet and just go with the Oxy Ir as I have been on pain meds so long with APAP that he doesnt want any liver damage....even though I have always taken under 4 grams a day. I have been on them for so long. I am taking 6 of the 5 mg. Oxy Ir a day. I was getting my pain meds from my regular doctor before I had the surgery and now I am getting them from the foot surgeon. I have never been to a pain management center because I just got insurance finally a few months ago. My regular family doctor is a good guy and he was seeing me for the last 3 years basically without me having to pay him because he knew how much pain I was in and he wanted to help me as much as possible. I have never taken the meds to get energy or a high feeling because I am getting that high feeling and I hate it. I just notice that now it's really really heavy when they hit me and for the first year I was on them they never affected me like this and it's really scaring me.

wanttolovelifeagain
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   Posted 6/15/2011 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi! I am a new member as well. I am about 99.9% I know at least part of what is causing this....and first off, no, pain meds do not affect you differently than others.....I am the same. I just quit the pain meds I have been on for three years because I was prescribed a non-narcotic med that had the "side effect" of relieving neuropathic pain (which, apparently is the type I have). And the pain relief is BETTER than ANY pain medication...now just to get my brain back to normal!

Just to give you a little background on me...I am normally (without my brain being affected over the years by pain medication) a very outgoing, pretty energetic, caring, welcoming, typically pretty smart person. Also, my husband used to complain (before pain meds) that I was gone too much! Now he says I don't get out enough...which is VERY TRUE! Just going to my monthly dr.'s appointments with the pain management doctor takes LITERALLY every bit of mental energy I can put together!

But what I think is more than likely your problem is.....low testosterone due to taking longer chronic pain medications! Do a google search on "MS Contin and testosterone" and you will get tons of information. I am actually a little surprised your doctor, since you are male hasn't put you on testosterone replacement therapy along with the pain meds. The sustained released pain meds (from my research) are the ones that cause the testosterone problems the most. My PM dr. regularly prescribes testosterone along with pain meds for MEN, but I had to go to another doctor to get my hormone levels checked and then prescribed testosterone because I am a woman. I looked over my blood tests from a couple of years ago with this doctor and my testosterone was low then but never addressed, I had no clue. One day, I truly feel it was a God thing, I was feeling very lethargic but got just a small amount of mental energy and remembered seeing an advertisement for "Testim" at the dr.'s office. And I had every single one of the symptoms on the advertisement, except for "ED" which I can't have since I am a woman....but I would say i definitely had the female version of "ED."

Do a search on pain meds and their effect on testosterone in the body and you will find some really helpful information to bring to your doctor if he/she isn't educated about this. I, personally, don't think that physicians are very well informed about stuff like this but then they aren't the ones who have to suffer from the side effects either! UGH! So we have to be our own advocates.

If you need links to specific information on testosterone, let me know. One other thing I thought I'd share, one article I read about testosterone therapy...the man that the article was about was able to actually lower their dose of pain medication drastically because testosterone actually helps pain medication work!!! So that may be another reason why the longer people are on pain meds the more they need....
Subutex - 2mg daily, Aleve, Tylenol, Wellbutrin for chronic pain that I've had for six years. Arthroscopic hip surgery 2007; Compressed nerves in low back due to bone spur causing low back and bilateral burning pain.
Wife and mother of two children. I HATE what pain medications have done to my life. I have went from a very outgoing person into a low energy, unambitious person!

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 6/15/2011 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Smith...I am heading off to bed but will write more tomorrow...thanks for giving me some more info....that makes sense then that he switched you...I am on the OxyIR 5mg myself...

I'll share in the am...hope you can get some rest:)
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

Blessedx8
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   Posted 6/15/2011 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Smith....

Welcome to our little group here on HW.  But - I'm sorry you are suffering w/ pain and side effects from your meds.  I've got some thoughts but I'm so exhausted right now that I'll write more in a bit or in the morning.... but I at least wanted to welcome you. 
 
Hang in there and look forward to talking more.... --Tina
Pain Issues: DDD; fibromyalgia; migraines; carpal tunnel syndrome; tendonitis
Multiple Health Issues: Disabled due to POTS (heart condition); dysautonomia (dysfunction of the nervous system); hypothyroidism; adrenal insufficiency; chronic hypertension; chronic fatigue; sleep apnea; anemia; Vitamin D deficiency; etc etc
Meds: Too many to list....
Personal: Mom to 6 boys and twins girls

Blessedx8
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   Posted 6/15/2011 9:14 PM (GMT -6)   
WTLLA (Wanttolovelifeagain)....
 
I've seen your posts on a few threads.... and wanted to welcome you, too, to the board.  You may want to start a new thread and just give your introduction so as many people as possible will see it and be able to welcome you.  You can share as much as you'd like for us to get to know you! 
 
Regardless, though, welcome to our group here!!  Look forward o sharing more..... --Tina
 

luckyflowers
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   Posted 6/15/2011 10:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I will second what mom and SB said...welcome to both of you..

Hugs and goodnight
Dx: Herniated disk in my neck C6-C7, Degenerative disc disease and arthritis in my neck, sciatica, RLS, migraines and post-op RNY gastric by pass and depression.

Meds: Oxy, Nortriptyline, percocet, norco, xanax(as needed), sinement, topamax, imitrex, and paxil

Personal: Single mom 43yrs old to three children- two girls 5 and 13 and my son 16yrs old. I work fulltime.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 6/16/2011 7:16 AM (GMT -6)   

 

            Hello Smith!

                Welcome to the Chronic Pain forum!

        It's no surprise to see that you have already met some of our warm and friendly members.

    I think you will really enjoy the forum. Visit as often as you want...and if we can help in any way...just ask.

         At the moment it looks like you are getting some pretty good information, so I really don't have anything to add.

        Best of luck to you...and again, "Welcome"

    SE wink


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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 6/16/2011 7:33 AM (GMT -6)   

 

         Good morning to you as well...wanttolive!

             We certianlly want to welcome you to the Chronic Pain forum!

      I think you would be best served by starting a new thread, and introducing yourself there. Many of the members will simply not see you here, if they are not checking this topic.

         Please select "Post New Topic"....and we will greet you there!  wink       

     SE wink      


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smithjr1981
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   Posted 7/6/2011 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Well Doctor did the testosterone labs, so just waiting to find out the results. I really hope that this is what has been causing my fatigue, and also still in heaps of pain in the foot that I had surgery on over 3 months ago.
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