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Draka
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   Posted 7/6/2011 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   


Just wondering if anyone knows what the hospital charged your insurance company for surgery?

Since this was my first hospital stay.... I had no idea what the cost would be.... just found out .... $128,641.47...shocked

I know the hospital gets only what insurance company gives them.... I am out of pocket $1,200.00 so far.....


Posterior cervical spine surgery... from the report:
C3 through C7 right open-door laminoplasty, C2 through C10 hemilaminectomies, C2 throught C7 right foraminotomy, and left C5 through C7 forminotomies as well as the two rib allografts and Vertex instrumentation.C3 to C5 with structural rib allograft and local vertebral autograph, and at C7 with the same structural rib allograft and local vert

tmjpain
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   Posted 7/6/2011 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh my goodness, how horrible. Not in Canada.

Jim1969
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   Posted 7/6/2011 6:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Talk about sticker shock.

10 years ago my wife had to have her gallbladder removed. Surgeon: $10,000, hospital:$28,000, and that was for an out-patient procedure.

5 years ago for me: 3 weeks ICU, life flight from county hospital to regional, 2 surgeries, a team of doctors that included a surgeon, infectious disease specialist, pulmonoligist, cardiologist, a resident and an intern cost $498,000 and change. This did not include the bill for the week I spent at the county hospital before being transferred.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.

tmjpain
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   Posted 7/6/2011 6:50 PM (GMT -6)   
oh my gosh jim, this just blows me away

Jim1969
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   Posted 7/6/2011 7:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Fortunately we had very good insurance back then (during that 1/2 million dollar stay) and the picked up 100% and waved the deductible and co-pays both for that illness and for the rest of the year. The hospital I was in was ready to step in too and forgive any and everything the insurance might not pay as well as make sure the life flight bill was covered if need be.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.

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   Posted 7/6/2011 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about the costs for back surgery...but injections costs over $7,000...

My daughter had open heart surgery in 1991, total hospital bill for that was over $65,000
back then, sure must be very much high now a days, she is doing good, heart wise...

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kittycreation
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   Posted 7/6/2011 9:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope your out of pocket expenses end at 1200...I can only imagine the stress that is added to an already challenging issue.
 
Here, it can be difficult to get surgery and the wait times are long but thankfully it is covered. I am one of the lucky ones who is considered an ideal candidate for my surgery so I am now in the waiting line...lol
 
 

bsjaguar
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   Posted 7/7/2011 4:22 AM (GMT -6)   
When I had my lumbar fusion in 2006 the hospital bill alone was $64,000, this didn't include the doctor, radiologist, anethesiologist or other ologist that were involved.  I had some P&G stock that I had to cash in to cover all of my out of pocket expenses.  I would have been in deep crap if I hadn't had the stocks.
 
I don't remember how much the bill was for my cervical fusion later the same year but I had met my out-of-pocket for the year so it was covered 100%.  So if you need more than one surgery try to have them in the same calendar year to save money.
 
Your surgery was very complex so I am not surprised by the amount you paid.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 7/7/2011 6:13 AM (GMT -6)   
 
   ....I believe my double lumbar fusion surgery was around $84,000 plus or minus a few thousand. When I had my heart attack in 2002....that was a heafty bill as well. Lucky me,...there was no expense for me....have very good Ins.
 
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   Posted 7/7/2011 7:59 AM (GMT -6)   
My dad had bypass surgery and heart valve replacement over ten years ago. The day after he got home from the hospital he had a bill in the mail from the hospital in excess of $100,000.00. I said what are they trying to do cause these poor old people to have another heart attack or what.!!!


Six years ago my brother was in a one car accident and his hospital expenses only was in excess of a million dollars. He had many surgeries, several different hospitals for surgery and being transferred to different ones over a 4 month period of time. He is a real million dollar man.

If you look at your bill you will probably find many items not related too.
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Draka
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   Posted 7/7/2011 10:31 AM (GMT -6)   

WOW.... those are some hefty price tags! shocked

My total didn't include X-rays, MRI, CT and the Dr consults... guess that would add another couple of thousand $$$$'s

My Bone Growth Stimulator was $5,000.00... crazy right?!?!


C3 through C7 right open door laminoplasty, C2 through C10 hemilaminectomies, C2 through C7 right forminotomy, and left C5 through C7 foraminotomies, C3-C5 structural rib allograft and local vertebral autograft & C7 with the same allograft & local verterbral autograft & Vertex instrumentation C3-C5

straydog
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   Posted 7/7/2011 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Draka you are right the hospital bill is for the room you were in and the operating room. All the other stuff is extra and not included on the hospital bill. For those kind of prices you would think we were staying at the Ritz Carlton. i would love to know how they come up with some of these fees.
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Jim1969
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   Posted 7/7/2011 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
If people knew or really thought about how much sub contracting that goes on with hospitals it would drive them crazy.

For years after the two main communities in the county decided to close the city hospitals in favor of one large county one the new one sub contracted virtually everything. The bill you got from the hospital would only be for the use of the physical aspects of the facility...ie the machines, OR rooms, patient rooms, etc. You would get separate bills for lab work, the "hospital" doctors who treated you or read you X-rays and such. You would even get a separate bill for any medicines you received while a patient from the "hospital" pharmacy. They had literally sub contracted out almost everything except nurses.

Fortunately this has finally, mostly stopped at the county hospital. Now when you are treated there the only extra bills you will get would be from your own doctor assuming they were not directly employed by the hospital.

I have to wonder how many hospitals still sub contract out services, and how that is adding to the skyrocketing costs of health care. When you think about this kind of thing it is no wonder insurance companies have armies of processors to wade through everything.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.

Draka
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   Posted 7/8/2011 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   

Interesting.....

Just goes to show how everything is being shifted to private contractors...... all leading up to the all mighty corporations and the corruption that comes with them.


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C3 through C7 right open door laminoplasty, C2 through C10 hemilaminectomies, C2 through C7 right forminotomy, and left C5 through C7 foraminotomies, C3-C5 structural rib allograft and local vertebral autograft & C7 with the same allograft & local verterbral autograft & Vertex instrumentation C3-C5

NiNi53
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   Posted 7/8/2011 11:09 AM (GMT -6)   
One of the first things I asked when I was approached with have neuro-stim installation was the cost.  That was the one question that was never answered.
 
Unfortunately I have to take responsibility for that one because I should have kept on asking until I found out, If I had know the cost, I never would have had it done.
 
I re member when I first heard of the neuro-stim, it was years ago, an article that Jerry Lewis (the actor) had written, he wrote how long he had suffered with lower back problems, and how this wonderful neuro-stim had saved his life.  At that time it was somewhere in the area of 200,000.-300,000.  Of course it was way out of my league.
 
When I found out what it cost me, after it was done of course, I realized I would die before this bill would ever be paid, by that I mean old, old, old age would get me before this bill was paid.  Worse the darn thing has never worked.
 
But thats all for that, its been gone over to many times.
 
Something has to be done about the health care in this country(USA).  I am not sure what, but greed is going to put us all in the poorhouse.
 
And on this happy note I will say goodbye,  hope all are doing well and take care of yourselfs.  If possible stay out of hospitals, lol, I know its not possible but if we dont laugh we will cry.
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson

Serenitee
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   Posted 7/8/2011 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Draka,

I'm not sure how much my ileostomy surgery was. I had already met the quota for things to be 100% covered from shoulder surgery and tons of medical tests prior to my ileostomy. But i know that I about had a heart attack last year when I saw my bill from the police putting me on a lock down in the Psych Ward at the Hospital for 10 days. It was $80,000 and I didn't have tests even done, except for blood work-up 1 time.

Sorry to hear it was so much, and I hope your doing well.
Your Healingwell Friend,
Serenitee

Dagger
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   Posted 7/8/2011 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
My last surgery was about 2 yrs ago. It was laproscopic and I spent the night in the hospital. The hospital billed the insurance company almost $50,000 and the insurance company paid them less than $3000. That was it.

I am always amazed by how little the insurance company pays. If we all had to pay this little, we wouldn't need insurance.
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