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Monty's Mom
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   Posted 8/26/2011 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
First, welcome all new members to a wonderful family that has helped me in so many ways on my journey through CP. I have lurked but not posted much lately.

Lupron is a nightmare that keeps on giving! My arthritis pain is going through the roof, mood swings are terrible, and the depression I am getting from it hit so fast and hard that just getting up each day is an accomplishment. It hasn't created any improvement yet, but I am trying to stay positive and realize that it will.

So ladies here at HW, how do you deal with mood swings and the changes menopause or hormones bring? My doc gave me some progestin therapy hoping for an increase in bone loss and assistance with the mood swings. I don't notice any difference other than dizziness and vomiting increased. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Please?

Thank you in advance!
Mindy

NiNi53
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   Posted 8/26/2011 11:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I took something, I am not sure I remember the name, but I think it is called estro-something.  It is a natural medication, if you can call it a medication.  I really hate to say this, but the only thing that helps is time.  After going over the options HRT, was one, but since there is a long line of women with breast cancer in the women in our family, actually on both sides, so my pcp doctor and I decided it was not worth the risk. 
 
Now several years past all of that, I am glad I didnt do the HRT.  Talk with your pcp doctor about what your can take, there are many options available with otc meds.  Also we have a local store that has nothing but natural ingredents.  They will make some types of teas for you, there is always someone on staff who does homeopathic medicines, such as tea, or even several different liquids, lavendar, ginkgo, and several others that I cant remember right now because I want to so badly.  (please if anyone knows of these medicines help me out here. 
 
Ok I am going to get off and see if I can find the medicines I am talking about, be right back.
 
Kathy
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson

Mysti
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   Posted 8/26/2011 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh Mindy, I remember far too well going through that ordeal when I got a Lupron injection.  I know how miserable that is.  Are you taking an anti-depressant at all?  I didn't find the progesterone helped me.  My doc gave me an anti-depressant to try and ease the symptoms (I believe it was Effexor).  I do think it eventually did help with some of the depression and anxiety.  But keep in mind, it may take weeks for an anti-depressant to reach it's therapeutic effect.  I also tried the otc Estroven, which is just a soy-based plant estrogen.  I asked my ob/gyn about taking that and he said it was fine, but do ask your doc about it.  I've heard other women say it helped, but I don't think it did anything for me.
 
For the hot flashes (which were horrible and constant for me), chew on ice, and keep a cold washcloth on your face when you can.  You can also place cold packs (cool, not freezing) in your groin area and arm pits at night to help keep from having night sweats and increase your comfort.
 
I'm really sorry you are going through this, Mindy.  Just remember though:  This too shall pass.  It really will, and remember that the Lupron is doing it's job by supressing your hormones and it WILL eventually wear off.  In the meantime, try and distract yourself, laugh at comedy tv shows or whatever you find enjoyable.  I always thought distraction helped me.  Whenever my sister and I are going through a bad time with pain or problems, she and I sometimes plan time together, just for us, and we pile up in bed and just laugh and cut up.  She is a chronic pain patient and she always says she feels so much better when we get together and laugh.  Sorry, I went off track there talking about my sister, but my point is, that I truly think *distraction* and laughter can make you feel better.
 
Mindy, take care, and you just come on here and vent as much as you need to. 
DDD, 3 bulging lumbar discs, bone spurs, facet joint arthrosis/sclerosis, osteoarthritis

damouthy1
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   Posted 8/26/2011 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Mindy,

I wish I could offer some suggestions, but I have no ideas. I did want to say it's so nice to see you post. I was missing for awhile too (but also lurked). I hope you can get a handle on this and get some relief!

Take care.
Gentle Hugs,
Shannon

Fibromyalgia, Chronic daily headaches, Migraines, Undetermined Auto-Immune Dysfunction (probable MCTD, sero-negative RA and ?, Trigger finger, Carpal Tunnel, Cubitol Tunnel, GERD, High blood pressure, Depression and Anxiety

Oxycontin, Percocet, Lopressor, Lexapro, Omeprazole, Promethazine as needed for nausea, Ventolin inhaler and Vitamin D3

NiNi53
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   Posted 8/26/2011 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, I am back and found the book I was looking for, you know when you move its difficult to remember where I put some of my books, I try to keep the most important ones close at hand, and I did, so lets get on with it.
 
Chaste berry, Sarsaparilla root, black cohosh, motherwort, raspberry leaf, also calcium, magnesium, potassium with some vitamin D is essential.  Calcium is difficult to assimilate in the body, but other minerals help the calcium to assimilate.  Be careful of calcium supplements; only use those that are combined with magnesium.  Silica is important for the bones as well and may be gotten from shavegrass tea.  B vitamins are also essential; often they are mixed with other supplements, be cautious of those that have to much vitamin C.  Vitamin C is very acid to the body (except in its form as Ester-C) and bioflavonoids (vitamin P) should be used instead.  Bioflavonoids are excellent for the circulation as as helping assimilation of vitamin C.
 
Zinc is important for the immune system and manganese for the nervous system.  Also Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA) contains essential fatty acids and helps balance the hormone levels.  This is found in evening primrose oil, black currant oil, and I think borage oil.  Free form amino acid capsules are also recommended, especially for those with low blood sugar, and those who have had problems with PMS. 
 
You should try and have a diet high in leafy green vegetables, kale spinach, collard greens, and turnip greens if you can stand them.  Carrot juice is also a good source of calcium.  (again if you can stand it).  All of these above should also be helpful to digestive system, and it is a natural way of keeping things moving.  (You know what I mean)
 
And one last thing, it is important to exercise (I know for myself exercise is limited), but I have found water arobics to be very helpful and gentle on my body.  Please do not exercise like people without cp do.  It is simply not something we can do.
 
I know this is alot of information, if you have a local health food store, most of these can be bought right there.  I hope this has been or will be helpful for you.  Again time is the one thing that can be counted on for these symptoms to go away, or at least not be so bad.
 
Good Luck to you, hope you are feeling well today,
 
Kathy
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson

straydog
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   Posted 8/26/2011 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Mindy, I had to be taken off my HRT because of the heart attack risk,. Trust me I was not one happy camper either. I had a lady tell me about a product called Estroven, OTC and it was very helpful to me with so many of of the menopause symptoms. Before taking the Estroven I took the box to my PCP and got her approval. She had no problem with me taking it and wrote the name down to pass on to her other ladies in my situation.

They have several different types of Estroven to pick from to help with different symptoms. It is cheap enough, I suggest you check it out and buy a box that fits with your symptoms and take it to your dr for approval. Do not open the box, everything the dr needs to know is written on the box and if he says no then you can return the box to the store.

It is certainly worth checking out. Take care.
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NiNi53
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   Posted 8/26/2011 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Straydog, thats the one I was trying to think of, my pharmacist recommended that to me, and it was well, I wont say great, but it did help.  Thanks for reminding me of that one, it worked.
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson

Dagger
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   Posted 8/26/2011 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I know some women have had success with acupuncture and Chinese medicine. There is a school in our town that charges a sliding scale fee so it's a bit more affordable. Maybe you'll be lucky enough to have such a school near you. Good luck

tmjpain
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   Posted 9/3/2011 8:49 AM (GMT -6)   
 
 
    Hi Mindy,
 
  We haven't heard from you in a bit. I was wondering how you have been feeling?
 
Hope you can pop on here and let us know how you are doing. I'm hoping that
 
 you are feeling a bit better. Post when you can.
 
Take care
Suzane

kat1611
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Date Joined May 2011
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   Posted 9/4/2011 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Ladies..I'm so glad someone brought this up. Lately I've been stuck in the house, on the couch. Ken just changed to 2nd shift & with my teens in school that means I'm by myself during the afternoon while he sleeps. When my teens get home they do their homework and I'm by myself in the evening. For the last week it seems like all it takes is a breeze to go by and I will get upset. It doesn't take much more than that to bring me to tears. I don't know if this is just lack of contact or menopause.
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