Lidoderm Question, and a micro Vent.

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misterkatamari
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   Posted 8/26/2011 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone, I hope at least some of us are having a good day--pain level low or otherwise.

Anyhow, I had a quick question about some pain patches my doctor prescribed me. They're called Lidoderm, and I have read up on them and everything and I'm following the directions correctly...but I am feeling absolutely nothing. I'm wearing two patches right now, but they don't even seem to numb the skin--let alone help with my back pain.

I'm not really sure why my doctor prescribed the patches, as he called and told me about it after I left his office. So maybe he just thought that if I used this in conjunction with my meds it would help? I sorta feel like just not using the patches because I seriously notice no improvement at all. In fact, stuff like Icy Hot helps me more than this. lol!

So anyone have experience with Lidoderm or similar patches? What exactly do they do, or are supposed to do?


Also, my neurosurgeon's office is ridiculous. I live over an hour away from the surgeon's office. Originally, I was to meet up with him--only got to see his assistant actually--on the 9th of this month. Then they call and say they have to reschedule due to some unforeseen problem with the doctor's family or something. So then I scheduled it for today. Well the clinic called like 30 minutes before I was going to leave and told me that they'd need to cancel because their x-rays are down or something.

Now I have to wait until the 23...of September. He's only at the office every other Friday. She offered to schedule at the main office, but that is like a 3+ hour drive from my home, so I turned it down. It's so annoying. I seriously have never had doctors cancel on me before like this!

I'm not really mad, just sorta annoyed. I would have been FURIOUS if I had left my house and drove up there only to get turned around, though. That hour drive is horrible for me because of my pain, it gets worse from sitting upright so car rides are hell. Luckily I wasn't relying on this appointment to help with my short term pain or anything, or this would have been very bad.

straydog
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   Posted 8/26/2011 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Mister yes we have had some people on here use the Lidoderm patches with success. Keep the patches on and give it some time. Personally no, I have not tried them but I am very interested in them for a different problem and thats my shoulder. I may ask my dr for them when I go for a pump refill on the 2nd.

I am so glad that you did not drive to the drs office today. Try to find a way to chill yourself out and get calmed down. You sound pretty wired right now and that is only going to cause more body tension.

Hang in there.
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misterkatamari
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   Posted 8/26/2011 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, straydog.

I'm actually--mentally--feeling ok today, just disappointed with the doctor's office cancelling.

I've been wearing the patches for awhile now since I got them. I started yesterday with just one to see how it would act, and I left it on for the full 12 hours. So then today I put on two patches, and I've had them on for awhile now. I took one off, though, because it got stuck to my pants somehow. So maybe you have to keep using them to get results?

The Tramadol is helping a little, thankfully. I've been having more pain than usual ever since Tuesday, so I'm happy to have any edge taken off.

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   Posted 8/26/2011 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mister.

The idea of the patches is that they are just another way of getting meds into your body - just that instead of being absorbed via your stomach like an oral tablet, they are absorbed through your skin and into the bloodstream that way. I've not used Lidoderm patches - not used any patches really other than trying Fentanyl patches for one day and finding that I had a serious allergy to the adhesive, but as far as I know the rationale for using them is to work on nerve pain.

As far as keeping them on - I'd suggest getting something called Tegadern (or a version thereof) - they are those clear dressings used when you have an IV cannula put in place.

Sorry to hear about the issues with your doctor's office. I can understand your frustrations... another month is an awfully long time to wait when you're in pain, never mind more than usual.

Laura
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   Posted 8/26/2011 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi M,

I've used them. They are very expensive (as far as my co-pay) and I still have about 90% of them left from several years ago. I really need to discard them, but I haven't wanted to throw them in the trash for some psycho to dig out or "just in case". I wish you better luck with them, but the biofreeze is like 1000 times better for me without the insanity of the copay. If you haven't tried it already, see if a Physical therapist or a chiropractor or even a sports medicine clinic can get you some. It helps by giving the icy/hot sensation and changing the way you respond to pain. Believe me...I have tried it all and do take some potent meds, but for the topical stuff, biofreeze is the only one I can use and the only thing that helps. No imitations come close and I am very sensitive to capsacin (sp?) so it's OUT!

Good luck with the apt!!
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   Posted 8/26/2011 2:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I've also tried these Lipoderm patches... they were very expensive.... didn't stay on at all.... and no, they did not work for me at all..... I believe you can use two patches at once... but check first.

A total waste of $$$$.... I still have them unused.

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   Posted 8/26/2011 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I have also used them. They were prescribed for me when I had the facet nerve rhizotomy done on my neck. They helped alot for that pain, but I have tried them for other pains and don't seem to get much relief from them.

My sis also tried them for back pain but the lidocane made her nauseated. I do hope that they start to help you. We can sure use all the relief we can get! Take care.
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momtofourangels
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   Posted 8/26/2011 11:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mister. My doctor prescribed the patches for me, but Medicaid wouldn't pay for them. So the doctor prescribed the Lidoderm cream. I used it several times, and couldn't tell a difference. I was thinking about it the other day when I was hurting so bad, but I don't know where I put it.

I use BenGay and Maxfreeze. I couldn't find Biofreeze except on the internet, and I needed something then, so I bought the Maxfreeze, and it works pretty well. I wish you good luck with lessening your pain.

Boy, a month is a while to wait. That would aggravate me that the doctor keeps rescheduling the appointment. Take care. I hope you're having a low pain night.

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misterkatamari
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   Posted 8/26/2011 11:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone.

I'm thinking maybe the patches just aren't working for me. I mean some meds just work differently on people than they usually are supposed to.

I'm going to try and take it easy until I see the doctor next month. I can't rely on them to miraculously 'fix' me anyhow, so I should focus on what I can do now.

I might try the patches tomorrow again, just for good measure. My doctor said I can use up to 3 at one time, but I've only used up to two maximum thus far. Maybe I'll try 3 tomorrow on my worse back spot and see what happens.

The one thing that is weird to me with him prescribing these patches is that they sorta are an area pain reliever, right? As in, you put them where it hurts and it relieves that specific area--not your whole body? If that's the case, then I find it strange that he prescribed it because my pain is indeed localized mostly on my lower back--but it affects my upper thigh, knee, and hip as well. My right side is sorta pained too, but it is of the tolerable nature. Just seems weird to have a spot treatment to a pain that sorta just feels like my entire left side is being drilled into, if you get what I mean. It isn't like I just have one spot that hurts, basically. But maybe I'm wrong about the patches being just for local relief.
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