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All-Seeing Eye
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   Posted 9/19/2011 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been using pain meds (opiates) on a regular basis since about 2 years ago. I've been prescribed vicoprofen, codeine, oxycontin (15mg er), gabapentin, lyrica, and ibuprofen in the past. I can't take NSAIDs because they make the swelling of my painful lymph node worse (the reason I am taking meds in the first place). I have recently been taking codeine 60mg x 2. So I take 120 mg of codeine at a time and it is barely effective. At the best, I get about 45 minutes to an hour of pain relief and then the pain is worse for a LONG time after it wears off. Any other medications that may work for me that aren't hard on the body? I think all toxic meds make the swelling worst so I guess my question is: what are the least toxic opiates that are not combined with an NSAID that I can ask my doctor to prescribe me?

I know oxycontin is out because I'm allergic to one of the ingredients. Tramadol is out as well. Any other ideas? We've pretty much run out of options to treat the lyme so we are focusing on getting my symptoms under control which mainly consist of pain and anxiety.


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   Posted 9/19/2011 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I am no chemist:) but you might suggest oxycodone. Its in the same family as oxycontin but it might not contain whatever it is u are allergic to. it is the same thing as percocet without the NSAID's in it. Good Luck!
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   Posted 9/19/2011 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
oxycontin IS oxycodone in a long acting form, oxycontin also has no other ingredients, just oxycodone

Percocet does not contain an NSAID, it contains oxycodone and acetaminophen (Tylenol)

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   Posted 9/19/2011 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
HI,have you ever tryed Diluadid ?might work for you has no codiene!I think the pharmasist would know more about different pain meds ,then us here who only know what we have been prescribed.It can be hard to find the meds that work best for you but once you get them stick with it. What can be done long term for your pain ,as taking opiates for long term is not good on the body!I know little about lyme ,is there any cure? I do hope you get some pain relief soon good luck take care from Michele

All-Seeing Eye
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   Posted 9/20/2011 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
There are "cures" but none of them eradicate the disease completely. They offer temporary improvements but I have hit a brick wall in terms of abolishing my symptoms. I am thinking about either morphine (related to codeine) and maybe I can ask him about plain oxycodone as well. I really wish there was another option for pain, but there isn't in my state.

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   Posted 9/20/2011 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
    Hello All-Seeing Eye!

        Welcome to the Chronic Pain Forum!

            I see that you normally attend the Lyme forum, and I'm very sorry you suffer from this disease, as it can be extreemly hard to treat. I can't offer much in the way of a pain treatment, but did read up on the disease a bit here on the web. Are you on any sort of "Antibiotic"?  Also who is scripting your pain med's?, and are you seeing a Dr who specializes in Lyme? Maybe a PM might be a good suggestion for you?

      I also added a few general lifestyle suggestions for you below. You might want to check and see if you are following any of them.

         You might want to visit with a Pharmacist, and see what they suggest for you. Sorry I could not offer more for you. Lyme is a very complicated disease.

      Take care,

      SE wink         

General Lifestyle for CLD (Chronic Lyme Disease)

• Do NOT overdo

• Rest is enforced

• No caffeine - impacts sleep even at small amounts - sleep is CRITICAL

• Balance, balance

• No alcohol - more toxicity

• Stay hydrated - drink lots of water

• No smoking - one cigarette every 3-4 months can impact your recovery

• Vitamins do NOT feed spirochetes

• Exercise is critical

• No steroids


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All-Seeing Eye
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   Posted 9/20/2011 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
thank you for the advice. I'm pretty much following those guidelines to the T by now. I posted about this over on the lyme forum but I figure since my question was purely pain related, I would get a wider-array of responses on the subject.

I'm doing everything I can to get rid of the lyme. I've tried most of the treatment options without much improvement so now I am focusing on adapting my life to the symptoms I experience on a daily basis.

Thanks for any help! blush
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