Teen in serious need, please help, idk what else to do anymore

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joshb12
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   Posted 12/12/2011 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Long story short, i used to lift weights a lot.

about a year from this month, i started having widespread problems. I'd already been battling pain in my olecranons, and also tennis elbow, but a year from this month is when it all got worse.

I had been lifting heavy, and i thought i had tricep tendinitis, so i put down heavy weights, and started focussing on shoulder isolation exercises, then 2 weeks later, i tried a full body workout, high reps, and thats when it started.

Ever since, i've been battling pain in so many areas of my shoulders and elbows.

Some areas of pain are fronts of shoulders, and up in the joint/bone area.

I also have bicep pain occasionally in about the middle of my biceps, not upper, not lower.

I also have elbow pain like i mentioned.
This pain can be on the tip of the olecranon, on the inner and outter side of the olecranons, a little lower down the ulna bone (possibly nerves? i really don't know, but its along the bone).
I also have pain on the upper olecranon, like tricep tendinitis kinda.

The majority of my pain comes in the right shoulder, the majority of the elbow pain comes in the left elbow, but it can be in both.
Just never at the same time.

Its like opposites in a way.

I sometimes have wrist pain, but that's pretty rare, and usually in the right wrist.

i have right knee pain that can be on top of the knee, and on the inner side.
I have had this pain in left knee, but most time its in right.

I have been to two docs, ortho and family. Neither knew what was going on.
Last time i went, was to the family doctor over the summer, and he x-rayed my wrist, it showed nothing, and he took multiple blood tests.

One blood test found inflamation, the next found none. He then checked my muscle enzymes, and they looked fine. Next he checked for auto immune disease, and said that i didn't have any sign of any setting in.

But what else could this be?
i'm only 17, turn 18 in 2 weeks.
i've been battling this problem for a year or a little more now, and it persists. Some days seem like they're better than others.
Sometimes it even feels like i'm getting better, and then it comes back, and sometimes is pretty intense.

I take Animal Flex, and also super cissus joint supplements, and they don't seem to do a whole lot.

I want to be able to do stuff again.
I want to swim for recreation.

I mean i cant even do pushups without it hurting the next day.

Purgatory
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   Posted 12/12/2011 10:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry, to hear of your pain troubles.

For starters, you need a better medical explanation for what is happening to you, perhaps find a better doctor, sounds like more tests are started.

Also, with that much pain in so many areas, proper physical therapy could help you.

Please let us know how it goes for you.

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sos007
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   Posted 12/12/2011 11:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Josh, I am with Purgatory...I think you need to get a second doctor to evaluate. I can tell you it took me 5 octors until I got some answers. This is your life and sometimes we have to take the reins and open every door...I see you are quite young do you have a parent who can help you find another doc and go with you, sometimes it is nice to have support.

Keep in touch and don't give up trying to find out answers.

Take care, Amy
Chronic Pain(nerve), fibro, mild depression and a few others

bsjaguar
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   Posted 12/13/2011 5:25 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd try to find a good sports medicine physician, maybe someone that your work out with could recommend one. x-rays only show bones but what you describe sounds more like tendons or ligaments. I agree with purgatory that some PT would probably help and they could give you some good info on how to avoid hurting yourself during your workouts. Make sure you are warming up your muscles with stretches before working out.

Hope you can find a good doctor to help you out. Cold is the best thing for tendonitis after your workouts.
---Jag---


DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3 & L-3/4, fibromyalgia, polymyalgia rheumatica

sore42long
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Date Joined Apr 2011
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   Posted 12/13/2011 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree sports medican DR. also don't give up til you get some answers!You really need to find out whats wrong.Take care

Sue123
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   Posted 12/15/2011 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Josh,
I used to be a weight lifter before falling ill with fibromyalgia. I was at a point of sculpted back thigh muscles, two hour a day workout with two hours of additional cardio. When the doctors can't find anything, it is possible the pain is from fibromyalgia, arthritis or another nervous system or muscle condition. Not everything shows up in bloodwork or imaging tests. A Rheumatologist needs to diagnose it. However, you're young, it's rare to have something like fibro so young. I personally went from strong, the top of my game, to barely being able to lift a heavy glass, or open a door. Mine started in the joints, specifically the hip and shoulder joints I tried cortisone, but that only gave temporary relief. When I fell ill, I wish I had done some checking before starting medication. So I'm going to give you some advice on things to try and things for the doctors to check before going down the path of considering medicine for a fibromyalgia-like disease. With any luck, starting these supplements will help you get back to normal in one to two months time. Be patient, the body takes time to rebuild. You also have the added challenge that your body is growing until the age of 25. So, you need even more food and supplements, like double the need.

I think as a start, you need to focus on what supplements you're taking. Animal Flex, and Super Cissus have helped others, but I don't think it is enough in your case. It is a good start, though. These ones only cover a small group of supplements/vitamins needed to support a body with a weight lifting routine. Because your muscles hurt even after something straightforward like push-ups, it means they are not getting enough nutrients to recover. It's important to get enough protein in your diet, either through meat or taking something like whey supplements. Pain can be caused by a lack of amino acids provided by the protein, lack of magnesium, a lack of Vitamin D or an electrolyte imbalance. Basically, you need to feed your muscles either through food or through supplements. Once you get on a vitamin routine, you will start to see times when your muscles are ok, but it will take a month or two before you see consistent results. I would recommend asking the doctor to check for certain levels in your blood for Vitamin D, B12, Iron and Thyroid. My guess is the doctors have already checked for the basic stuff because they went as far as checking your inflammation factor, but some neglect to check Vitamin D and B12.

To see if you have symptoms pointing to a vitamin deficiency, I've included a site of symptoms to vitamins. If you're having muscle twitches, like in the back or eyelid, they you're definitely deficient in magnesium, which will result in incredible pain after even small workouts.

Also, it's important to take the right balance of supplements. Animal Flex has zinc, and too much zinc will likely interfere with the metabolism and absorption of other essential minerals in your body, most especially iron, magnesium and copper. So taking extra zinc without balancing it with a multivitamin could cause you pain. That's the challenge with some bodybuilding supplement companies, they lack the science behind keeping supplements in the right ratio (plus it costs more, and the quality is suspect).

It's also important to take it easy with workouts until your muscles recover. Exercises through the pain will only tear your muscles resulting in a more difficult recover road. Doing light stretches, walks while building up your body chemistry will help. Drinking lots of water will help flush any toxins and build-up out of your muscles, make sure you drink at least 8 glasses a day, more if you live somewhere warmer. Also make sure you take your vitamins with a protein for them to be better absorbed by your body.

I'd like to hear back to help you while you rebuild your health. If supplements don't work, I have other suggestions to look for. I order my supplements from iherb.com, it's much cheaper than my local stores. DEX579 coupon will get you $5 off your first order, plus you can pick out something for free with each order.

Here's some sites. Best of luck, Laura

http://www.livestrong.com/weightlifting-supplements/
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/deficiency.html
http://www.multivitaminguide.org/
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002423.htm
http://web.mit.edu/london/www/magnesium.html
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Therapies: Epsom salt baths, sauna, therapeutic yoga, visualization, NLP, massage and chiropractic
Supplements: Source Naturals Multi-Vitamin, Minami Omega Fish Oil, Co-enzyme Q10 Ubiquinol, DLPA, N-Acetyl Tyrosine, Magnesium Glycinate, 3000 IU Vitamin D, Megafolonic, B12 Methylcobalamin, Magnesium Ascorbate (Vitamin C)
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