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Monty's Mom
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   Posted 12/21/2011 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Panic attacks, my long lost friends have loving returned without an invitation. And just in time for the holidays too! So generous of them to share some time with me!
There were years of suffering from agoraphobia and panic attacks, now they are just popping up for no reason with no trigger. Lovely. Docs think I am just suffering from anxiety that could be masked by my meds, or that they are an outward sign of worry. Now that the insurance mess, the bullying issues with the school, and the majority of stress inducing stuff has been handled and is over, now the panic attacks come?

Is it all in my head? LOL
Seriously though, this is just not fun, and the last thing we needed right now. When you get improvement, three steps backward for every one forward. If life was easy, would the good times be memorable?

Sending hopeful prayers to you all,

Betsey Ross
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   Posted 12/21/2011 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   

It is awful having panic attacks, just remember to breathe. Ppl showing up unexpectantly is stressful enough

Try to have a nice holiday, I will be thinking of you.

Take care
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   Posted 12/22/2011 6:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mindy,

I tried to answer your post quite a while ago, but my computer had an issue with me using it during the middle of the night again. ((((I think it wanted to sleep too))))

With regards to your question, I believe it is very normal to experience panic attacks after the immediate threat is over. It is the body's way of telling you that you have been under too much stress for too long. At least that is my opinion.

I used to suffer so badly from them and it was almost always after the "threat" had passed or after the situation had resolved itself.

It's like your body is catching up to what your brain already knows.... I guess a good mental picture is when you have been out on a boat for a while and have become used to the movement of the water underneath you. You stop noticing the rocking of the boat and get your sea legs, so to speak. When you are back on dry land, you can still feel the boat rocking until the body catches up with the brain. You know you aren't in a boat anymore and that the land isn't moving, but you can still feel the movement...and when you close your eyes to relax for sleep, you can see it and feel it even more prominently. Of course, this is different if you are adjusted to boating often, but for those of aren't, the sensation can be confusing and somewhat frightening.

Just try to relax and give it time so that your body can catch up to the changes.

I hope this helps just a little bit!!

All my best!
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Monty's Mom
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   Posted 12/22/2011 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Betsey and RetiredMom.

You may be right on the brain being ahead of the body. I will try to keep that in mind as I am breathing to try to prevent one.

They stink, and its an even worse feeling when its in public.

Thanks again!
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   Posted 12/22/2011 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about panic attacks as luckily haven't suffered from them but this year I have probably cried more in the 12 months than I have in all my adult life. I cry when I am frustrated and what with the Crohn's flare, having 4 1/2 months off work then developing Lupus and the lovely horrific pain and exhaustion that has given me I feel like I am finally after 22 years of being tough and strong and just getting on with whatever has been thrown at me that it is all getting to me. It's not like me and could be a side effect of the gabapentin/oxycodone/amitriptyline as well but feels so unnatural to me.

Sometimes it feels like just one more thing goes badly either medically or personally will tip me over the limit. I hope things settle down for you. I'll keep fighting on as I have always done and get there eventually, just wish just for once a lucky break would be nice.
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Monty's Mom
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   Posted 12/22/2011 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
stripey, I am right there with you on the crying thing. I too feel like one more thing can tip me over the edge a lot. Staying positive and reminding myself that I did not choose this, but that I am doing my best to cope and focus on happiness. Most days that is all I have, positive thinking without much action.

I hope this gets better for you. I would talk to your doctor about it if it becomes overwhelming, and keep in mind that life has changed drastically. This alone can cause depression in anyone, and for you to be living and coping means you are stronger than most! I know many people in life who would fall to pieces and stop functioning from what I live with everyday, and there are plenty made of sterner stuff like the members here at HealingWell.

Praying for you stripey, that there be more good days ahead.


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   Posted 12/22/2011 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mindy I'm sorry you're having the panic atrtacks. They are not fun at all. I get them when I get in a crowd sometimes, but not as much as I used to. I hope that you can get those calmed down really soon.

Whar RetiredMom said makes sense. I hadn't thought of it that way. I sure do wish you well. I hope you're able to enjoy the holidays.

love and hugs
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Heather Lynn
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   Posted 12/24/2011 11:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Mindy, sometimes I think we are twins separated at birth. I have been suffering from panic attacks for about the past month. I know what is causing the anxiety behind them, and I know I will eventually get better, but they are still just AWFUL.

After an exciting trip to the psych ER after I had one while driving on the freeway, I am finally on a dose of Klonopin that is working.

When you are having them, all you can do is breathe and remember that they end eventually. (((hugs)))
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   Posted 12/29/2011 12:19 AM (GMT -6)   

Yes, panic attacks suck! My mom has gotten them ever since I can remember and then after I got sick, I started to get them. Fortunately they are far adn few inbetween unless I am going into the hospital for surgery or a procedure. Then they come on full force. I almost jumped out of the car to avoid a procedure one time and another I refused general anesthesia,opting for a local because I was panicking at the thought of being put under.

I read this article the other day at the doctors office and it was saying that we have a second brain down near our stomachs that controls our gastroenterologic stuff. It operates separate and without any input from our head brain. Until just recently there was only one doctor researching this but now there are hundreds. It makes sense regarding panic attacks because I can sit there and know in my head there is no threat and nothing wrong yet I still feel like I am dying. So even though my head brain is saying I am OK, my stomach brain is saying panic!!! I think I was reading that in Heath magazine so if you Google it you can read more about it. Very technical but interesting.


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   Posted 12/29/2011 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
chronic pain alone can cause a overactive sympathetic nervous system that gives you a low threshold for panic attacks/anxiety. unrelieved chronic pain will also cause a higher level of cortisol which leads to anxiety, high BP, high pulse, high blood sugar. some supplements i have come across have really pulled me out of a anxiety cycle; L-theanine, GABA (gama-aminobutyric acid), 5-HTP or L-tryptophan, Holy Basil or Tulsi extract, Rhodiola Rosea root, schisandra berry extract, B-complex w/ extra B5, B2, niacinamide and inositol (dosed with GABA improves effect), B6 w/5-HTP, L-Taurine w/ B6, sckullcap extract, passionflower ext., kava kava ext., Ashwagandha ext. (may lower opioid tolerance), Magnesium (i am trying Magnesium Glycinate), L-Glycine, lemon balm or melissa officialis ext.(a GABA agonist like benzo's), and many more. i constantly try to find a new great cocktail and finally i am getting results. everyone is so different in this area. try a wikipedia search for "adaptogens" or "adaptogenic herbs"
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Monty's Mom
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   Posted 12/30/2011 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you spinal soldier for the suggestions. I always seem to forget that herbs are just as good if not better at treating many of my issues as compared to common drugs. I called my PM doc and psychiatrist today and am waiting to hear back on what herbs are safe to try or remain on while on my medications. There are a few that I have already gotten the go ahead on for the new fibromyalgia diagnosis, but would like to make sure both docs understand I am planning on trying new things.

Again, thanks for the suggestions and support!

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