Does anyone know what Communist countries do w CP patients?!

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AngelinaATF
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   Posted 1/20/2012 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Just thinking ...if its this hard in the "Land of the free" to get proper pain mgmt & treatment, what's it like in Communist Nations?! eyes
btw - today I'm actually feeling better bc I took extra prednisone (with permission) !
amazing what just 5 Mg more can do to make me feel better! I even went out & picked up kids fro school since it's subzero temps in the Dakotas! And I did so well I decided to go by pharmacy & pick up my meds AND the nice cashier was there (the only one not to judge me!) ...Made my day to have someone nice! turn
Today is turning out better than anticipated!
Angelina
age 41
dx: MCTD(LUPUS), RAYNAUDS, FIBROMYALGIA, L4L5 disc herniation, fracture in L3 fro EPIDURAL in childbirth
meds: Arava, prednisone, Nifedipine, estropipate, cyclobenzaprine, Cymbalta, sulfasalazine, gabapentin, hydrocod (4BTP), fentanyl patch, methotrexate - MTX (on hold), minocycline, clonaxepam (sleep), vitamin D, B stress complex, PRILOSEC, Transderm-Scop (on hold)

spinal soldier
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   Posted 1/21/2012 1:20 AM (GMT -6)   
yes, the gulag. workcamps
L4,L5,S1 bilateral Laminectomies, Foraminotomies 2002
L4-S1 PLIF with instumentation 2008,

current Rx: MScontin 100mg q8hrs. , dilaudid 8mg q6hrs. prn, oxymorphone IR 10mg q6 ,vistaril 50mg prn nausea, Lyrica 150mg 2x,Adderall 20mgs 1x A.M. 10mg PM prn, Soma 350 mg 3X, Elavil 25 HS, diazepam 10mg bid prn, Supplements: CO-Q10 100mg, Vitamin D 1000IU, Fish-Oil1000mg EFA, B-Complex50 3x/day, ALA

AngelinaATF
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   Posted 1/21/2012 5:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hahaha! But seriously do they have a set-up like Socialist Great Britain or Canada?! How do those ppl get any medical care? They prob don't unless they're rich & leave the country for healthcare in U.S.A!
Angelina
age 41
dx: MCTD(LUPUS), RAYNAUDS, FIBROMYALGIA, L4L5 disc herniation, fracture in L3 fro EPIDURAL in childbirth
meds: Arava, prednisone, Nifedipine, estropipate, cyclobenzaprine, Cymbalta, sulfasalazine, gabapentin, hydrocod (4BTP), fentanyl patch, methotrexate - MTX (on hold), minocycline, clonaxepam (sleep), vitamin D, B stress complex, PRILOSEC, Transderm-Scop (on hold)

bayoub2
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   Posted 1/21/2012 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Really Russia and its teritories are not even communist anymore, they have ainept corrupt gov't with no money so mob familuies run things..I imagine medical as you said is only for the rich...and the rest drink themselves to death w/ cheap vodka(extremely high rates of alcoholism there)

Sad
Maggie

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AngelinaATF
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   Posted 1/21/2012 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow Maggie! So sad but I imagine you're right! I can remember where we last lived (wash state) & lots of Russian immigrants & they drank vodka like it was water! That's one way to kill the pain - along w your liver! Idk @ you but I'm a lil attached to mine :) hehehe!
Angelina.
age 41, Mom of 2 great kids (10 & 7)
MCTD(LUPUS), RAYNAUDS, FIBROMYALGIA, L4L5 disc herniation, fracture in L3 fro EPIDURAL in childbirth
Meds: Arava, prednisone, Nifedipine, estropipate, cyclobenzaprine, Cymbalta, sulfasalazine, gabapentin, hydrocod, fentanyl patch, methotrexate - MTX (on hold), minocycline, clonaxepam (sleep), vit D, PRILOSEC, Transderm Scopalamine, Vit Bcomplex

cogito
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   Posted 1/21/2012 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I Googled Chronic Pain and China and assembled a few links below. The first is a video. The second is probably a solid study. The third is just from a blog.

http://painpolicy.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/treating-pain-in-china-opioids-or-acupuncture-life-before-death-film-17/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11798221
http://healthpolicyforum.org/post/cultural-differences-treatment-pain



Here's a general comment about healthcare in China:
China has a health insurance system that provides virtually free coverage for people employed in urban state enterprises and relatively inexpensive coverage for their families. The situation for workers in the rural areas or in urban employment outside the state sector is far more varied. There are some cooperative health care programs, but their voluntary nature produced a decline in membership from the late 1970s.

The severest limitation on the availability of health services, however, appears to be an absolute lack of resources, rather than discrimination in access on the basis of the ability of individuals to pay. An extensive system of paramedical care has been fostered as the major medical resource available to most of the rural population, but the care has been of uneven quality. The paramedical system feeds patients into the more sophisticated commune-level and county-level hospitals when they are available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_reform_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China


My guess is that Laos and Vietnam have very poor care in general. Cuba, on the other hand, is suppose to have fairly good healthcare. They, of course, have universal healthcare and very good access to basic care, but due to the U.S. embargo, face shortages in medicines and equipment. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

I also found the following international study on opioid consumption:
http://www.painpolicy.wisc.edu/publicat/monograp/aphconf07.pdf
C4-T4 Scoliosis (disk degeneration, stenosis, narrowed neuroforamen, bone spurs), RT hip and SI joint damage from car accident. Also, pectus excavatum, supraventricular tacycardia and mitral valve prolapse syndrome.
Current meds: Ultram ER 300mg daily, breakthrough - hydrocodone 10-15mg, or oxycodone 5-7.5mg. .25-.5mg ativan as needed for sleep, Verapamil 240mg SR (for tachycardia). [/gray

bayoub2
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   Posted 1/21/2012 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Great research cogito

Maggie

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rjbeck
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   Posted 1/22/2012 2:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I do know that Cuba has a good teaching medical system and teaching hospital for students from Europe plus,South and Central American to train for there MD. Both of my son's have been there at least 5 times and had to use there medical system and it was very similar to ours. I am not Cuban but my ex-wife is and we wanted our kids to experience a different type of living. They really learned to appreciate what they have in the Good old U.S.A.
AVASCULAR-NECROSIS (AVN) in 6 joints. HIPS,KNEE'S and SHOULDERS-Replaced RT shoulder.Left hip 2011
Bilateral Empyema-Thoracotomy with Decordication.(Removed the Lining of left lung)Bilat Pneumothorax (2005-2008)
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tmjpain
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   Posted 1/23/2012 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I bet there are many who suffer.

Do you know that vodka is available in all kinds of flavours. Like root beer and bubblegum. No wonder they love drinking it. LOL

Suzane

NiNi53
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   Posted 1/23/2012 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   

Cogito you did a great job of finding that info out, I am blown away, and very glad to be in the US.  You know where you are born, and everything else is so very random.  When you think about its, just the luck of the draw we were born and raised in the United States, and even though its not perfect, its a heck of alot better than anywhere else I can think of.

Anyway great job, take care, and by the way, this is nini/Kathy,

Hope you and everyone are feeling as good as they possibly can.


degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson

Kitry
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   Posted 1/26/2012 3:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I am very sorry to say what I have to say, I am new to this forum and the only reason I came here was to find support for my untreatable condition and chronic pain.

As far as I understood from the rules, we are not supposed to make any comments about politics/religion.

Not a big deal for most of you, but I immigrated from Soviet Union when I was 12, most of my family is still there.
Would you feel politically correct asking the same question about Nigeria/Saudi Arabia/Israel/UAE?

Don't get me wrong, I am very new here. But coming for support and hearing jokes about Gulag (both of my grandparents died there) is just very discouraging.

Pain doesn't speak any language, nor it follows any politic or religion. When it hurts - u seek help.
Not ridicule or criticism.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 1/26/2012 4:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Kitry, and once again we meet here in the early morning hours. It was my impression that your original post was about seeking help for a friend of yours regarding illicit use of his scripted med's and other problems. I did see you list some of your health Dx's, but was not aware that you were seeking support for yourself. My apology if you were.

You are quite correct, that we do not allow politics and religious content here on the CP forum, and I apologies for any off color remarks that have offended your political and religious beliefs. we do the best we can to monitor these rules, but sometime a few slip by us mod's.

The best way to handle these problems, is to report them to either any of the moderators, and or the Admin of this site. We prefer that you contact a moderator's first, and avoid confrontation by replying to the offending post.

As you can see, I have already edited this post twice, in efforts to avoid any members from being offended.

Thanks!

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Kitry
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   Posted 1/26/2012 5:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Pain has no boundaries, does not relate to politics or geography.

If some people are lucky enough to have a support (no matter how minor), please don't rub it in.

Please remember - there are others who have way less treatment (and if you are in doubt - substitute
your Humira/Enbrel/Remicade for as much vodka as u can have)...
for a few months.

Then you can have as much fun as you can. IF you can.

I always thought that compassion was the other side of the pain.

Was I wrong?
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