Doctors care more about drug seekers than treating legitimate patients, it seems

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mattolsen
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   Posted 4/1/2012 2:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry for the rant but I'm fairly new to actually getting treated for my undiagnosed autoimmune disease and a horrible dental thing I have going on. Though, in my short time dealing with dentists and doctors I have come to the conclusion that a lot of doctors are more concerned with avoiding giving drugs to drug addicts than they are in treating legitimate patients pain. I say this because I have documented proof of a legitimate condition in which pain killers are a part of treatment. Though, almost every time I had to ask for something for my pain the doctors expression changes and they get a little weird. One dentist told me pain killers won't help my dental pain, another told me to take ibuprofen when I'm already on norco's. At first, I felt weird and almost bad for even asking. Kind of like I was doing something wrong in asking. Although now I'm starting to get mad at the fact that my well being isn't as high of a priority as the stigma related to drug abuse. I never ask for anything in particular, as I feel it's their job to prescribe whichever drug will help, I never ask for more than they give me, and I have never had any other variable that would indicate I'm a drug addict. So why do they treat us this way then?

It just makes me sad that, after going through all of this, that there are a lot of people in legitimate pain who are probably not being given an opportunity to lead a normal life because of drug addicts. I guess I feel that drug addicts are going to do drugs regardless, prescription or not. So, the result is that people suffer bc we try to avoid giving them their drugs at all costs. Just seems like a really backwards way of doing things.

cogito
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   Posted 4/1/2012 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I understand your frustration and I think that the Drs are just scared to death of the DEA. Most are not willing to take risks because of all the horror stories out there. If you look at your state medical board website, it might contain all the disciplinary actions taken, many of which have to do with questionable prescribing. Dr. can so easily be challenged and risk their license if not their liberty.

I've come to accept that the fault lies not with the Drs, who are just looking to protect themselves from a very real threat.

This may or may not help you deal with your frustration, but you're not alone -- many others on this board have to deal with the hassles caused by DEA militancy & political dogma.
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   Posted 4/1/2012 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Your thoughts are things we've talked about quite often here on the board.... most of us feel the exact same way you do. It can be very, very frustrating.

I would just encourage you to not feel bad for asking for something for your pain.... don't let the people that abuse their meds mess it up for those of us that need them.

Besides the whole DEA issue (and that's a whole conversation in and of itself)..... the truth of the matter is there are a WHOLE lot of doctors that simply do not understand pain management and how to appropriately handle narcotic medications. I've talked to several doctors that have told me that in med school - pain management is sort of "glossed over"..... Hopefully, in the future, this will change....

So, don't ever feel like it's "you". There are so many issues that play a part - the DEA and all the requirements.... the doctor's personal attitude towards pain and narcotics.... and on down the line.

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mattolsen
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   Posted 4/3/2012 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks for your response. And I try not to blame the doctors, I guess it's just frustration because I'm not trying to get high. I'm trying to maintain a normal lifestyle so I can do my homework, or get out of bed. I think I started to feel like those things were to much to ask for and that I'm just supposed to accept my condition. I stayed in that place for awhile but luckily got to the point where I got pissed off and unwilling to accept that. My main problem now is trying to convey this idea to my doctors. It's hard because I don't know how to ask without feeling guilty.

Medicalkid2
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   Posted 4/3/2012 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I currently feel like I am literally dying and at age 18 with Crohns Disease and Ankylosing Spondylitis I have literally written essays to physicians explaining how incredibly frustrating it is. I called my doctor once and said "Is this what you guys do? Run away in fear of the DEA monkey's making me suffer for 3-4 years? You want me to hit the streets and buy the illegally diverted stuff? Well I can't because I don't think my issuance covers drug dealers". It took my primary a long time to realize what hell was. She came down with some type of RA and now understands the discomfort. Really, it seams like you have to feel the torture first...before I got sick and I saw my parents on those tiny amounts of Vicodin I always looked at it critically....now I get it after failing college classes I loved because I couldn't get out of bed or that I was in the ER..something has got to change thats for sure.

Somebody said...
thanks for your response. And I try not to blame the doctors, I guess it's just frustration because I'm not trying to get high. I'm trying to maintain a normal lifestyle so I can do my homework, or get out of bed. I think I started to feel like those things were to much to ask for and that I'm just supposed to accept my condition. I stayed in that place for awhile but luckily got to the point where I got pissed off and unwilling to accept that. My main problem now is trying to convey this idea to my doctors. It's hard because I don't know how to ask without feeling guilty

I know exactly how that is. Try and type of something...I have had doctors read well thought out papers of mine and they get it. I think when they think of prescribing opioids they think too much about broken bones and crying...that or fear of addicts and the DEA. Im not going to cry for the doctor..Im not going to put on some show..its just not me.

Post Edited (Medicalkid2) : 4/3/2012 5:09:36 PM (GMT-6)


ReactiveConstellationNE
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   Posted 4/3/2012 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I hear you, Medicalkid2. I've been dealing with some of the same sorts of things (see my sig below), for over a decade now.....I can only imagine if it had started in my teens how much harder it would have been to convince doctors than it has been as a 20 and 30-something with a wife and kids....I definitely feel your pain.
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