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   Posted 4/6/2012 4:22 PM (GMT -6)   
So I was having a conversation with Some collegues today. One was neurosurg, one Ortho, and pm. The surgeons were telling me that people who had to stay on "opiates" after surgery were considered "failures" in their field and that management of pain is not their problem. The pain guy told me that the point of pm is to get people well through procedures and lifestyle measures, psych, etc. and that people needing chronic opiate therapy were problematic, because the government is cracking down so hard on opiates and soma. So the push that they're feeling is to come up with something better, some miracle cure. One of the docs I work with in family practice, who you guys would love, said (after they left) "I wouldn't let any of those guys operate on my pet lizard. One on them has butchered my patient". He and I are the only ones in our practice who do ANY pm at all.
My question is...and I have seen this I can't tell you how many times...what happens when horrible docs do surgery on people that never needed it and made them worse?!? All I have to do is look at their MRI and then the OR report to know this person is going to be miserable.
It's really a broken system.
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   Posted 4/6/2012 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
BaileysMom no one can say really whats happens to those people that end up at the hands of bad drs. I saw some of that back in my working days, saw several end up in wheelchairs paralyzed as a result of a botched surgery. A very sad situation indeed. That is why it is so important for patients to get several opinions when surgery is recommended and do their homework on the dr in question. Ask to speak to a patient that has had surgery by the dr, I have seen this happen plenty of times. If the dr is worth his salt and not afraid of anything he will comply with that request. It is really easy to find out information about drs these days. Surgery of any kind comes with their own set of potential complications.

People just need to be careful and not make a quick decision.
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   Posted 4/6/2012 11:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree completely, I had one doctor who had retired as a neurosurgeon and became a pm doctor, and I use the word doctor loosley, he was a cash cow quack who only had to see an mri or some kind of paperwork on a patient and they were in.  I was fine with this as you never had to wait longer than 5-10 min from the time you walked in his waiting room, which was always full.  But since he never spent longer than 2-3 min per patient, no problem, he was writing your scripts before you sat down.
Then one day I took a very bad fall.  I had to crawl to the phone to call the emt, after I was released from the hospital which was that same day.  The next time I saw him I told him something was very wrong with my right leg and foot.  From my knee down my leg felt like it was on fire, the pain was well I dont even have words for how bad it was.  All he did was increase my meds.  After I told him that was not working, he put me in the hospital for 4 days, he ran many different tests, and found some things I already knew I had like osteroarthritis, etc.  But at the end of those 4 days my leg was still on fire.
One afternoon I took my grandkids to the pool, I dont remember much but I passed out as I had accidently overdosed trying to get rid of the pain.  I never went back to him again.  I found a new doctor, and he immedictely knew what the problem was, I was given 3 shot over a month time, and even after the first shot, I felt better, by the 3rd I had no more pain.  Turned out it was neuropathy.  My right foot is numb, but I can live with that, the burning pain in my leg never came back.  I was so grateful to that doctor.
Funny thing, when in the late 90s they started to clean house of bad doctors, the first one to go was my old doctor.  It was great news to me, he had no business practicing medicine.
Sorry it was so long winded, take care all,
degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis, neuropathy, lumbar laminectomy july 1998 no help, rechargeable neurostimulator unit low right back w/lead wires to left side and right leg unit not working just sitting there.i am 57 years young in may will turn 58. i have 2 grown daughters, 25 and 29. i have 2 grandchildren, 9 year old grandaughter and 5 yr. old grandson
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