injections yesterday... need to vent

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SoSickAndTired
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   Posted 5/17/2012 1:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I get injections every 2 months, but this time, I'm so sore... Not sure why. When he did the first injection it felt more painful then usual. It's hard to describe it. Anyways, now I'm having back spasms and I'm really sore and it doesn't normally do that after injections. The doc added morphine to my list of meds I'm taking. It doesn't seem to help tho. I already take Norco up to 5 Times a day and I'm afraid to try anything stronger for obvious reasons. Addiction comes along with being stuck taking these pills. And the stronger the drugs, the higher your tolerance is... Plus I just don't want to be all zoned out and sleepy all the time... I'm so sick of being in pain. Something's got to give. My back just keeps getting worse. I'm only 26 and I can't do simple things I should be able to do. I'm already on disability. I guess it could be worse right? I could be in a wheelchair, which I know I eventually will be. I don't really have anybody to talk to who understands what I'm going through... Severe scoliosis, degenerative disc disease, arthritis, and a few vertebrae have fused themselves together... And from all of this, my pelvis has shifted and my right leg is 3cm longer then the left. I fall all the time. I'm sick of it. Right now, I'm sick of feeling this way. Sick of the pain. Sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Bi Polar 1
Anxiety/ Panic disorder
Major depressive disorderl
PTSD
Anhedonia
Epilepsy
Severe Scoliosis/ Degenerative disc disorder/ Arthritis/ 65 degree curvature of the spine, and 2 of my vertebrae are fused together.

Meds:
Lamictal 300mg daily
Abilify 20mg daily
Klonopin 1mg as needed
Topamax 25mg twice a day
Norco 10/325mg. 5 times per day
Morphine 15mg twice a day

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   Posted 5/17/2012 2:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello my fellow CP friend,

I can understand how you feel. Some days just bring us to the brink of what we can stand and this seems to have been one of those days (or series of days). When I started taking my MScontin (perhaps that is the same as the Morphine you are taking....if it is controlled released), it took a little while to get any true pain relief. I also started on the same dose you are taking and I would now like them to raise the MSContin a little to help. I have found that (after getting it into my system well) the MSContin keeps me from having such intense pain all of the time. It does not work in th esame way as the immediate release meds, but keeps my pain level down say another point or two overall. Like in the mornings, when it was way beyond a 10, now it is a steady 8-9, but only a 10 on the worst mornings. It may not sound like much, but it is to me.

As far as the shots, perhaps you will see better results from them since they seem to have produced so much soreness. i have more shots on the 22nd and can only hope they willl work as well as the others. The pain of my injections or RFA's seems to directly correllate to the lasting relief I get.

I hope you will find relief soon from the agony you seem to be suffering. You are not alone.
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   Posted 5/17/2012 3:13 AM (GMT -6)   
SSandT,

I'm sorry you are dealing w/ extra pain w/ theses injections. I've had that happen where a procedure that didn't do much at first...caused more pain the next time, muscle spasms, etc. Have you let your doctor know? I would definitely - at least at your next appointment - let him know you had a more difficult recovery this time.

The medication issue is a very personal choice. I understand some of your fears.... but have you tried any of the "stronger" meds orally? Taking oral morphine... or oral dilaudid... etc. doesn't "drug" most people - say like the IV version of these meds.

Especially if you are already taking 5 Norco a day.... you might find that a long-lasting medication gives you better pain control, and it might not have side effects like you worry about.

I can just hear the frustration in your post.... and, for me, I've accepted that I have to be on medication in order to bump up my quality of life. As RM said - my meds only knock me down about 2 points - I live w/ about a 6 out of 10 on the pain scale.... but, without medication, I'd be at an 8 or 9 - and not be able to do much of anything. So, I've had to accept that I'm "dependent" on these meds.... but, for me, that's ok.

I absolutely understand being sick of being sick and the pain. Most of us here can definitely empathize w/ that feeling. There are moments when I've had it w/ my health struggles.... and days where I literally have to force myself to put one foot after another - and continue making it through life.

Anyway, just food for thought re: the medications.... again, it's not the answer to everything... and it IS a very individual, personal choice. I do hope the soreness wears off and that you find that the injections have helped. Please keep us updated - and know you can vent at anytime here, lol.

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Jim1969
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   Posted 5/17/2012 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
If you think your extra pain is due to the spasms call your doctor and ask if he will prescribe a muscle relaxer for a while. It might help.

Soma is suppose to have a less sedating effect than Flexeril....though of course it all depends on how any med works for and on the individual.
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LexiRae
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   Posted 5/17/2012 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
My insurance stopped covering my muscle relaxer (Flexeril) so I can definitely sympathize with the spasms, for the past few days they've been almost unbearable, I say almost because I have no choice BUT to bear them for now.

And yesterday I was where you're at. I cried a lot, I was angry and wondering why life is so unfair sometimes. But today has been better. Just hang in there, and try to get a muscle relaxer if the spasms keep going.

I was afraid of taking pain meds at first because I was afraid if I started that cycle it would just keep going, but when quality of life is zero, what do you *really* have to lose? If addiction happens (which in chronic pain patients is rare) then there are ways to address it.

But I decided I wasn't going to waste any more time feeling absolutely miserable unable to move or shower or dress myself, when I could take my life back (or try to) with the meds. I've been through every type of pain med there is almost, and I'm not addicted. But my quality of life and my sense of self has definitely improved on most days.

Its your choice; But if addiction is a beast, then so is the pain, and why let one beast (the pain) eat you alive in fear of another (addiction) that might never come?

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 5/17/2012 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Lexi...real quick, but at Walmart...a 60 count of generic Flexeril is only $8.00....

So it's extremely cheap to go ahead and pay out of pocket....

Sosickandtired....I agree with others....You need to call up your Dr. and ask them to call in a muscle relaxer for you to help with those spasms...

There is a choice of Flexeril, Robaxin, Skelaxin, Soma...etc....

Hope you can get some help with that soon...
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Darnme2000
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   Posted 5/17/2012 9:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I've found Robaxin works best for me. I tried Soma, made me sleepy but did work, Skelaxin didn't do a thing for me. My point is it make take a trial or so to find one that works for you. Never did take Flexeril that i know of.
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SoSickAndTired
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   Posted 5/17/2012 9:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I will ask for a muscle relaxer. I just don't want the doctor to think I'm drug seeking or anything. And when I spoke about addiction, I said that because I'm already addicted to the Norco. It sucks. But like most of you said, quality of life is poor without meds. I accept the fact that I need the meds and will always have to take them, whether I choose to get the surgery or not. Today was another bad day for me. I'm in a lot of pain. I guess I will call the doc tomorrow and ask about my options. Thank you all for your advice.
Bi Polar 1
Anxiety/ Panic disorder
Major depressive disorderl
PTSD
Anhedonia
Epilepsy
Severe Scoliosis/ Degenerative disc disorder/ Arthritis/ 65 degree curvature of the spine, and 2 of my vertebrae are fused together.

Meds:
Lamictal 300mg daily
Abilify 20mg daily
Klonopin 1mg as needed
Topamax 25mg twice a day
Norco 10/325mg. 5 times per day
Morphine 15mg twice a day

LexiRae
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   Posted 5/18/2012 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I think you're using the term "addicted" when you really mean "dependent" the two are pretty different. Just because your body has become dependent on the Norco does not make you an addict...it just means that your body has gotten used to that particular substance and doesn't like it when you stop taking it.

I think a lot of the reason for the negative outlook on pain medication is because people don't realize that there IS a huge difference between the two, very rarely are those who have chronic pain "addicts".

So unless you'll do *anything* to get that next fix and you crave the high and you take as much of your meds as you need to to feel high with complete disregard to the instructions... and you'd rob old ladies for drugs or break into a pharmacy or the like, you probably aren't an "addict" so give yourself a break :p

Also, muscle relaxers (without any additives) aren't a controlled substance, so you wouldn't be seen as "drug seeking" for wanting them.

SoSickAndTired
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   Posted 5/18/2012 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Very true. Im wording it wrong. I'm dependent. And thank you for letting me know about the muscle relaxers not being a controlled substance, that makes me less nervous to ask for them.
Bi Polar 1
Anxiety/ Panic disorder
Major depressive disorderl
PTSD
Anhedonia
Epilepsy
Severe Scoliosis/ Degenerative disc disorder/ Arthritis/ 65 degree curvature of the spine, and 2 of my vertebrae are fused together.

Meds:
Lamictal 300mg daily
Abilify 20mg daily
Klonopin 1mg as needed
Topamax 25mg twice a day
Norco 10/325mg. 5 times per day
Morphine 15mg twice a day
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