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Kaely
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   Posted 5/29/2012 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
So I just got a call from my doctor's office that she's called in Gabapentin. I can pick it up tomorrow. This is the same doctor who utterly refuses to give me a muscle relaxer. Isn't Gabapentin a stronger drug with far more side effects than Flexeril? My old doctor used to have me take 1 10 mg flexeril a day and it helped with my muscle spasms. I have literally begged my doctor for this and she UTTERLY refuses. People on here had explained to me why she can't give me more than vicodin for my pain. is flexeril another drug the DEA chases? i'm so confused.

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 5/29/2012 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry you are having such a rough time...

It's not really about comparing Gabapentin to Flexeril in strength as they are completely different medications.

Gabapentin is a nerve pain medication and is very helpful with this type of pain...I'm sorry for not knowing what your primary sources of pain are....

And Flexeril (Cyclobenzaprine) is a muscle relaxer.

Every medication has possible side effects. Lots of those for many people go away after a few weeks. So with any new medication it is good to read the literature that comes with it and notify your Dr. if there is anything severe.

I actually got too dizzy with the Neurontin (Gabapentin) and switched to Cymbalta for when I had nerve pain in between my 2nd and 3rd surgery.

The key is giving any medication a good try (barring any emergent side effects) as you will read both good and bad reviews on any medication. So I don't give much credence to how it's affected others because we are all different.

And no...Flexeril is not an opiate so it's not on the DEA's radar at all.

Does this Dr. give any reason why she won't prescribe a muscle relaxer? The only reason I can think of is if nerve pain has been your primary complaint than this seems reasonable.

Was this a new Dr? or is there any way to go back to your old Dr.?
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
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(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

Kaely
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   Posted 5/29/2012 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
This is my current doctor, my old one was in NH. My problem(s) are, Fibromyalgia, Severe degenerative damage at L5 S1 (20 years after a double laminectomy in the same spot) with Radiating pain down my leg to my foot (sciatic nerve), ruptured disk at L4- L5, ACDF C6-C7 (with plate and screws), Diabetic neuropathy in lower legs, tennis elbow both arms, arthritis in knees and fingers.
Wow, I'm falling apart at 45! Anyway, my doctor has given me vicodin 5mg for all of this. I have no insurance right now so I can't go to a pain clinic. People on here had told me that because of the DEA she may be afraid to prescribe more but I don't get why she won't let me have flexeril. I get muscle spasms that pull my spine to the side.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 5/29/2012 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Ahh...thanks for sharing more...It does sound like a nerve pain medication would really help with both the Fibro, spine issues, and the Diabetic Neuropathy...So I can see why she is choosing that as a medication..And being that you don't have insurance...she choose the least expensive one which is good too.

If Neurontn doesn't work out...there is always Cymbalta or Lyrica to try...

But I don't see why she won't "add" a muscle relaxer to take in addition to the nerve pain..That way you can hit the different type of pains....The Vicodin/Lortab being an opiate doesn't do well for muscle or nerve pain...but is just meant to "dull" the feeling of pain and not make you care as much about it...

So....most people are on a couple of different type of meds for each issue.

If you can afford this DR....why can you not afford an appt. with a Pain Management Dr.? They should have the same office fee. And many Dr.s will negotiate the price with you if you tell them you don't have any insurance...

It seems like unless you are in line to get more surgery soon...that finding a good PM to deal with the chronic pain would be a good plan.

That is who I have been seeing since my last surgery in 2006. And he is SO great about working with me on price. I only go see him in person every 3 months and only pay a $75 office visit. He does Acupuncture for free for me as well....

Are you permanently out of work and filing for disability and/or to get Medicaid? Or are you trying to find another job to get health insurance?

And I will be 44 this year and have been falling apart since 32! LOL...So I can empathize...This stinks to have to deal with this stuff:(
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

Kaely
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   Posted 5/29/2012 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
More explanation...I am waiting on disability. I have a hearing scheduled August 15th. I haven't been able to work for over 2 years now. All of my savings is gone. I have no income. The clinic where I see my doctor has a sliding fee and it costs me 10 dollars, which is adding up since I can't pay it. I am only living indoors due to my aunt having a house I could stay in. So I'm lucky in that regard.
I can't get medicare until I get the disability. All I have is Maine Rx. Which doesn't pay for much at all. My aunt pays the rest as long as it isn't too much (she is 73 yrs old and not made of money). My doctor had referred me to the pain clinic in this area (half hour drive away which is about the limit I can drive). They called me and I told them I had no insurance, they said they can't take me.
My lawyer said I should get the disability as I am more than qualified but until then I have nothing. So I'm stuck with this doctor. I'm not saying she's a bad doctor or a bad person, I actually like her. She just won't let me have Flexeril. Oh and you're right the Vicodin isn't doing much of anything for the pain. I've told the doctor this and she asked why I take it then. I said because ti's better than nothing at all.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Betsey Ross
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   Posted 5/29/2012 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
My dear Kaely

So sorry to hear of all your problems. Some drug comanies offer payment assistance but i dont know which ones.

Gabapentin works on nerve pain and it works and it is inexpensive

Stay strong and good luck on your disability.

Betsey
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Kaely
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   Posted 5/29/2012 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks Betsey :)
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Darnme2000
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   Posted 5/29/2012 8:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kaely, Hopefully the Gabapentin will help to give you some relief. I hate to hear you are having such a difficult time. Good Luck with you Disability claim and hope your pain eases.
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tmjpain
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   Posted 5/29/2012 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Good luck with your disability claim Kaely.
Hope you can get a med that will help you.
It must be so difficult not having insurance making it impossible to see a pain dr.
It doesn't work like that in Canada.
Why not ask your doctor what her reason is for refusing to prescribe flexeril for you. Another muscle relaxant is Baclofen and many get good relief with it.
There are some muscle relaxants that you can buy at the pharmacy without a script, such as Robaxacet or Robaxacin.
Let us know how everything goes.

Suzane

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   Posted 5/29/2012 11:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I sorry about your problems Kaely!!! I just got my medicare in Feb. after a 2yr+ wait!!! It's a terrible time to go thru, I know!!! Have you been awarded medicaid yet? If not you need to try to get that started asap! I know how dark of a time it is for you and how it seems that you are forgotten and nowhere to turn for help but it will pass! You will get the medical help needed and that weight on your back will be lifted. That wait will give you mental scars but you hang in there, you should be getting close to a hearing by now and should get it!

Kaely
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   Posted 5/30/2012 1:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow Worthit you hit it right on the head, it really does feel like I'm forgotten and have nowhere to turn. My hearing is scheduled for Aug 15, I should get my disability then (I hope). I didn't realize I had to apply for medicaid separately, I'll have to look into that.
Thanks for letting me know someone else has gone through this and survived.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Kaely
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   Posted 5/30/2012 1:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Suzane, I'll ask my doctor about that muscle relaxer.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Kaely
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   Posted 5/30/2012 1:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Darn, my lawyer says I'll get it so maybe I will :)
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

straydog
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   Posted 5/30/2012 9:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Kaely the new medication your dr has rx'd may help with the leg pain you are having, in addition to the back pain. Do not get discouraged if you feel like it is not helping, as the dr may need to increase the dose, this happens a lot with this medication. My husband is on it for diabetic neuropathy and he is still in the increasing the dose game to get the best benefit. As one of the others said this medication is used quite a bit for nerve pain.

I do hope you will call today and see about getting yourself on Medicaid, its a shame you had not applied for it before. At least with Medicaid you can use it to see the drs and get some scripts filled.

Take care.......Susie
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Worthit
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   Posted 5/30/2012 11:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Call medicaid and tell the you have a case pending and that you need the help! If your lawyers are anything like mine where they wont help with this and they can drag this out as long as it takes as they get paid a %. I called 3 times to Medicaid and was turned down saying I didnt qualify. When I went to my Hearing the Administrative Law Judge asked me why I didnt have it I told him what they said. He was frustrated and told me to call them back and tell them his name and that he recommended me to be on it, got it 2 months before dis. kicked in. BTW you have to go thru the medicaid process before you can move into the medicare, not sure why. If I were you I'd keep calling and at least youll have some medical rx help and a suppliment check. I'm in Alabama and got $674 a month, it was less than that $458? I told them that I helped pay thee utilities and brought it up to the $674. It sounds like chicken feed to most but after your personal $ is gone its actually something to work with!!! BTW those checks will be deducted out of your settlement but you need it now to survive. I wish you the best and hope this can get moving for you. It would make me happy to read that you have received it but if you prefer to keep it private I respect that too!!! Stay Strong!!!
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justanotherday
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   Posted 5/30/2012 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kaely,

Not sure what county your in , so I wouldn't have the foggiest on what DHHS office you need. Anyway I'm in Cumberland County. I have MaineCare as my secondary insurance.

If your getting the MaineRx you should qualify for the MaineCare. Best time to go in and apply is first thing in the morning before they get swamped. If you qualify they'll go back 3 months on any of your oustanding medical bills.

Only catch is the way Maine just changed their narcotic script laws. If your on MaineCare you do have to sign a pain contract, random drug tests and random pill counts. It never bothered me, it was just a pain in the butt to be called and they wanted you in now and not 1/2 from now.

Hope you can get it all taken care of soon.

Tina

Kaely
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   Posted 5/30/2012 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Aroostook so it's Houlton. I had Mainecare but they cut it off last year not sure why really but suddenly I didn't qualify. So all I have now is the MaineRx. I already have a pain contract with my doctor and I suppose they check me when I get my bloodwork done every few months. I'm hoping when I get my disability to move down your way. I'd like to be closer to my daughter and she lives in the portland area.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

justanotherday
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   Posted 5/30/2012 8:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I know they did a bunch of cuts last year and another round that'll take effect in September because of the what was 83.1 billion deficit.

And the gov has put a crack down on narcotics. Its been all over the news about the crack down on prescription narcotics. I won't even get myself going on that as its hurting a lot of people.

I'm a 1/2 hour north of Portland. SO hoepfully you can get moved down this way. There's a much broader range of docs. Of course I've also had to travel to New Hampshire and Boston for treatment. Only so much Maine Med can do.

LOL My hubby grew up in Benton, so he always says anything from Kennebec county north is potato and blueberry country.

Kaely
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   Posted 5/30/2012 11:03 PM (GMT -6)   
My grandfather was a potato farmer :p I'm seriously considering moving back to NH. I'm disgusted with Maine.
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Kaely
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   Posted 6/3/2012 4:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Well I'm on the 4th day of Gabapentin and have reached the 300mg 3x a day. I could cry from the relief. I can move around some now :) and I can get around my house without crutches (so glad my house is tiny). I can now sit up for more than an hour at a time. It feels like a miracle!
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

Snowbunny21
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   Posted 6/3/2012 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
That is SO wonderful to hear!!! I am really glad you stuck it out and tried the medication to see if it would help.

The good thing is that you have lots of room to move up in dosage if needed in the future.

I'm just so happy that you have found something that will help lessen your pain:)
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Oct 2006
 
 

grandmaroses
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   Posted 6/3/2012 9:11 AM (GMT -6)   
What a relief it must be for you to just get a break from the 24/7 pain. I hope the new medicine continues to help and you get your financial issue solved.
Take care
Rose



Insulin Dependant Diabetic, Fibromyalgia, Gerd, IBS, Sleep Apnea, COPD, Spondylolistesis, Diabetic Neuropathy, Fatty Liver, High Cholesterol

Kaely
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   Posted 6/3/2012 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much Snow and Rose, I'm pretty happy about it too :)
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

rocckyd
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   Posted 6/3/2012 12:59 PM (GMT -6)   
So glad to hear it is helping. I took it for years and it did provide relief for quite a while. You still have room to increase the dose if you find yourself struggling again.

I hope this will be your last summer with this insurance mess. Hopefully after your hearing there will be more of a plan in place.

Now-go out and have some fun since you are feeling better. Don't go all crazy and party all night-but you deserve to have a good time :)

Kaely
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   Posted 6/4/2012 12:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Haha not much chance of partying all night but I can get up and move a bit :) I was thrilled to do my dishes without having to sit down four times and rest. It's the little stuff that counts right now! I might get crazy today and vacuum the living room floor!
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7
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