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John510
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   Posted 6/3/2012 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey guys I mostly post over on the crohns board but figured this might be answered better here, as a lot of folks here take pain meds.
 
Anyway my doctor was going on vaction next week and I didnt know if I would be able to get in for appt (this is a GI docotor btw not a pain managment) so I called for refill on meds and went and picked up script. Its dated for when im due (like june 13th it was) I took it to the cvs where I fill my meds at to drop it off and pick up on the 13th and they asked me to bring it back closer to the fill date. I said fine went home and put the script in pile of some other papers.
 
My mom (not her fault at all god bless her lol) decided to tidy my room up a little bit and threw away the stack of papers she thought was junk. Well this had my prescription for oxycodone 120 30mg and also for imuran 50mg which I take for crohns. I was able to call the doctor and get in for a quick seeing tomorrow so I can tell him what happened but is there any type of law or anything that I am now going to be scrwed out of my meds for this month? He can obvisouly check to make sure the script wasnt filled (is that even possible?) Has this happened to anyone else and will the doc be able to write me a new script for same thing same date and everything?
 
Any help with this subject would be appreciated..thanks guys
 
John

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   Posted 6/3/2012 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi John...Welcome the CP board!....

I'm sorry that this happened to you....There isn't any law about losing a prescription....It's really going to be whether you have a good relationship with your Dr. and nothing like this has before ever happened. Or that you have never failed any drug tests they have given...or tried to fill prescriptions early.

Usually a Dr. with a good relationship will give you a pass and write you another prescription but it will still go in your file...

The key is treating those prescriptions like gold...Have a specific folder that is in your desk with all your other important papers that will prevent this from ever happening again. I do this because I only see my Dr. every 3 months so he writes post dated prescriptions for the following month. I come straight home and put them right in that folder.

So...hopefully you have that good relationship and he trusts that you are telling the truth...

We wish you luck!!
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   Posted 6/3/2012 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Any way that you can rumage thru the trash?
Just an idea... others will be by with better advise, but hopefully
your doctor will help you, just make sure to tell what happened.
many well wishes and keep us posted on how it goes at the doctors.
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   Posted 6/3/2012 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Some states maintain a database for scheduled medications, so that whenever you fill, data is entered into the system -- it might include your name, your doctor's, the medication, quantity, fill date, pharmacy, etc..

If your state has such a system, then it is possible to establish that you never filled the script.
As for who has access to the data, that also likely depends upon your state.
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   Posted 6/4/2012 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   

 

        Good morning John! We welcome you here on the CP forum! wink

     I agree with Snowy...and will only add that I place my scripts in my med safe if I recieve them a day or two before the refill is needed. To a CP patient...these med's are like gold for our pain...and wether or not the script has been filled or not...should be treated that way.

    I'm hoping you have a very good relationship with your Dr and he will write another one pronto for you.

    Take care,...and Good luck!

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   Posted 6/4/2012 9:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree is it too late to look in trash? Go talk to your doc and tell him what happened many people do because of loosing the prescription or accidentally leaving their pills on the edge of sink and they fall in or they somehow get lost or stolen. No need to worry until you see the doc.hope he just gives you the lecture and rewrites it.
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Jacey86
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   Posted 6/4/2012 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes they can check to see if filled- there is a database that Dr.s (and pharmacies) can check on to see if youre filling two at the same time for instance.

I'd just be honest w/my Dr. and tell him IF you find it, you'll return to him, otherwise, if you fill yours now, someone else would have trouble if they found it.

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   Posted 6/5/2012 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
A new law went into effect this year for any dr that takes Medicare patients, all billing and medical records are done electronically via the computer and prescriptions are done the same way. The only script that is hand written is for narcotics. My drs have all bought the software otherwise Medicare will not pay the drs bill. The dr can check to see if you are filling your scripts too.

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   Posted 6/5/2012 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I have some info for you. You can rest easy. The doctor will give you another script. You don't have to give your doctor "The dog ate my homework story". Trust me he has heard it all. Just call his office. Tell his assistant you misplaced your hard copy and want a replacement. She will make you another and call you as soon as the doctor signs it. It's as simple as that. This is how I know. My little sister is a doctor "Orthropedic Surgeon". Her husband is employeed with the DEA. They have schooled me a 100 times on this matter. So I will relay how this process works. The doctor prints you a hardy copy script. The script info is relayed before it even prints to the following. The State Medical Board which moniters doctors to make sure they are properly dispersing narcotics. The other is the local authorities "Sherriff Office". They moniter the pharmacies, for fradulant scripts and refills. In your case you have not filled it yet. Doctor will cancel 1st one and make a new one. Had you filled it and your pills were stolen or lost. This is the procedure. If stolen you have to report it to the police and get a case#. Give this to your doctor and insurance. He will refill script and ins will pay. This can be done only one time. If they are lost your doc will scold you and rewrite another but you will be monitered by weekly visits to your doctor and they will do a pill count. This is a 1 time deal too. Best thing to do is avoid this crap. Get organized with your paper work. Good Luck, Cary

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   Posted 6/5/2012 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I solve this problem by just having my doctor's office call in my scripts. I'd lose my head if it weren't attached on some days. That way there is no hard copy to deal with and this can't possibly happen :)
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   Posted 6/5/2012 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow 15-2 that's a great system they have there. I am in Canada and my drs system is very old style he manually hand writes all prescriptions if it's a controlled narcotic he has a special triplicate pad he must use he keeps a copy, I get a copy and I imagine the book with the third copy has to be submitted somewhere. I have often wondered how our system keeps track of things but I guess they have their ways.
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   Posted 6/5/2012 5:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Class 2 medications (morphine, oxycontin, etc) can't be called in... you do need a hard copy for these meds. I *think* they can be faxed in - if the hard copy is mailed? (not positive on that one).

Cary (15-2) - I think all doctors handle it differently. This is not how my doctor would handle it.... There is not one central database here... so a new script wouldn't "cancel" the lost one.

I think it varies from doctor to doctor and state to state.

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   Posted 6/5/2012 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
As mentioned by Tina...not every state has the Prescription Monitoring Program. So it's not necessarily going to be easy with getting another prescription. But we certainly hope that John has a good relationship with his Dr.
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ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
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   Posted 6/5/2012 6:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I know in Tx a class 2 cannot be faxed and it is against the law here to mail any kind of a script. Pretty strict laws.
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   Posted 6/5/2012 8:43 PM (GMT -6)   
…the only thing I will add here, is that my PCD said there is a program in place by the federal government to where Class II med's can be faxed into the pharmacies. However they have not been given the green light on it yet from the DEA. I also know that Senior care centers can have their Class II med's faxed. I just found this out a couple of weeks ago.

Im sure there will be many more changes in the future regarding the laws and such on Class II med's….but for now each state, PCD, PM's seem to have different rules they enforce. My state (Kansas) has Ktrac's and can be monitored from PCD to the Pharmacy, and visa versa….and if needed Law Enforcement can gain access to it. The Sheriff's office here does not employee full-time officers to monitor scripts.

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   Posted 6/7/2012 12:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I think as long as you have never had to ask for this before you should be fine and your doctor will give you a new one.
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   Posted 6/7/2012 2:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Not to confuse everyone, but from what I have read, the government want to get all schedule II meds on their TERF-REM program. It first began either last year or the year before and it only included the new fentanyl-transmucosal meds Onsolis(a film you put on your gumline), Abstral(a tablet) and Lazanda(a nose spray). This year beginning in March, they added the more common Actiq(pop) and Fentora(a fizzer tablet).
 
What the program requires is that any doctor prescribing these meds gets extra training, registers with the government. He then has to register any patient on these meds and the patients have to be educated on all the risks of these kinds of meds, and then only registered pharmacies can dispense these meds.
 
They hope to have all schedule II drugs on it in the future but we will see. Actually it is not really a bad program. Most pharmacies end up registering for it and most PM's will as well. It's t stop accidental OD's and doctors prescribing it for wrong reasons.  For example I read where a doc prescribed a teen the fentanyl pops for a broken wrist! Ah no! Kid had never taken any pain med before and they can only be prescribed to patients taking a LA narcotic.
 
There is a 1-800 number for patients if they have any questions.
 
 
 
 

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   Posted 6/7/2012 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I wonder if this person was able to get a new script, would have been nice if they would have came here and let us know what happened with the dr.
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