17 y/o with chronic back pain

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Musiclover08
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   Posted 6/11/2012 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone. I've suffered from chronic back pain for years now and I'm only 17. When I was 8 years old I threw out my back and was unable to move for hours. I recently found out I have scoliosis in my thoracic and lumbar ( S curve ) but it's only 5 degrees in the thoracic and only 3 in the lumbar. Most doctors don't even consider that to be scoliosis since the curve is so minor. I just dont understand how the curve can be so minor but cause me so much pain. My back hurts every moment of every day and occasionally gets extremely worse. Is anyone else like this? or know anyone like this? I'm going to go back to my doctor. But it would be nice to hear everyone's ideas on why I'm like this and what could give me pain relief. Thank you.

Monty's Mom
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   Posted 6/11/2012 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Musiclover,
Hello and welcome to the forum. I am sorry for the pain that brought you here, but glad you found us. I don't suffer from scoliosis or the type of back pain others have, but my husband has mild scoliosis also. He uses heat, massage, and ice when needed, whatever helps him the most at the time.

I know I am not much help, but I know that others will be on soon to welcome you and to offer advice. There are many kind, compassionate and caring members here.

Welcome,
Mindy
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   Posted 6/11/2012 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi musiclover, I feel so bad for you to have such bad pain at such a young age. Try to relax that usually helps and try heat and ice therapy that will help if there is any inflammation.
Take care
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momtofourangels
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   Posted 6/12/2012 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi musiclover Welcome to our chronic pain forum. I'm glad you found us, but I'm so sorry that you have so much pain. I don't have scoliosis, but I do have chronic pain in my back. Try ice and heat as suggested. I would also suggest going back to your doctor and telling him/her that you're in a lot of pain, and see what he/she says. Take care.

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cogito
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   Posted 6/12/2012 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Musiclover08,

I too have mild scoliosis that causes considerable pain. I must say, though, that 3 degrees and 5 degrees is VERY slight. My guess is that 80% of the population have similar slight curves (That's a guess -- I could be wrong).

In my case, the curve is about 20 degrees, from C4-T4. I didn't have any pain from it until I was about 40, though -- and didn't even remember I had it. If you're curious, here's an x-ray of my spine:
i47.tinypic.com/2qvuvbc.jpg. You can see how the vertebrae at the same level as and just below the clavicle are rotated, with a compensating curve in my cervical spine.



If you haven't had an MRI of the area, I think it should be discussed with your doctor. A few degrees in that area may not be the cause. You might have a herniated disk, or something else entirely.
C4-T4 Scoliosis (disk degeneration, stenosis, narrowed neuroforamen, bone spurs), RT hip and SI joint damage from car accident. Also, pectus excavatum, supraventricular tacycardia and mitral valve prolapse syndrome.
Current meds: Ultram ER 300mg & 2-3x 10mg Hydrocodone daily. Oxycodone 10mg for BT. .25-.5mg xanax as needed for sleep, Verapamil 240mg SR (for tachycardia).

Post Edited (cogito) : 6/12/2012 1:20:11 PM (GMT-6)


LiittleMissy
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   Posted 6/12/2012 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there.

Sorry to hear about your pain but I can sort of relate to it. Recently I had found myself with immense neck and back pain and went to the doctor, sent me for an X-Ray and showed cervical lordosis in my case I have no curve at all in my neck, then got sent for an MRI which showed nerve compression and slight bulge on disc. I am only 18 and I know that this pain at such a young age seems horrible.
You deff ask your doctor for tests to find out exactly what is causing the pain, I am still trying to get my physio sorted which is apparently going to help me.

Good lucky when you go back to the doc. I hope you get answers and help from them.

:-)
Missy

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   Posted 6/12/2012 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi musiclover, i wanted to welcome you to the cp forum. Glad you found us but so sorry you are having so much back pain at such a young age.
I agree, the degree of your scoliosis is very very slight and normally nothing would be done but to keep an eye on it for progression. Have you seen an orthopedic specialist for children? have you had xrays done recently or mri? I would suggest seeing the specialist if you haven't already. I have experience with children and scoliosis as i am a nurse and have looked after several children who have had the surgery for scoliosis repair. Let us know just a big more info on what you have done so far. Try some tylenol or advil for the pain, ice, heat.

I hope you will come back and let us know how you are doing and if you have any followup appt with doctors.

Take care
Suzane

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   Posted 6/12/2012 7:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Musiclover08, Just wanted to welcome you to the Chronic Pain forum. I really hate to see young people having so many problems early in their life. 8 years old is very young to start having back problems. I wish you good luck in finding the root cause of your problems.

Dale
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Musiclover08
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   Posted 6/13/2012 2:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you everyone for being so kind and supportive. I really hope all of you find relief from your pain.
I had been checked a few times for scoliosis when I was younger and I was always told I didn't have it. Then I had an X-ray to see if they could find what my pain was caused from and that's how they discovered the scoliosis. But now after thinking about it for awhile now, and seeing your responses I'm thinking the scoliosis probably isn't the cause (or the entire cause) of my pain. Do any of you have any other suggestions on what could cause it? Or what tests I should have done? Or questions I should bring up to my doctor? As I said earlier I'm very young and I would be seeing my doctor without a parent, so I just want to be prepared with questions and ideas when I have an appointment.
Again, thank you everyone so much.

Musiclover08
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   Posted 6/13/2012 2:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Additionally, I rest on a heating pad at least once a day and I take ibuprofen or acetaminophen but don't find much relief from any of those things. Any tips you guys might have for back pain relief?

cogito
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   Posted 6/13/2012 9:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Musiclover,

There are various other imaging tests, such as MRIs and CT scans. Which would be best likely will depend upon your doctor's suspicions about the cause of the pain.

As a general caution, if you can get relief from something less powerful than an opioid, you should delay taking any opioids for as long as you can. Tolerance can build very swiftly, and so they can become ineffective within a few years (sometimes just months). So, given your age, with 60-70 years left of life, you should explore other courses of treatment.

Depending upon what your doctor says, physical therapy or chiropracty might be appropriate -- but again, it depends upon the cause.
C4-T4 Scoliosis (disk degeneration, stenosis, narrowed neuroforamen, bone spurs), RT hip and SI joint damage from car accident. Also, pectus excavatum, supraventricular tacycardia and mitral valve prolapse syndrome.
Current meds: Ultram ER 300mg & 2-3x 10mg Hydrocodone daily. Oxycodone 10mg for BT. .25-.5mg xanax as needed for sleep, Verapamil 240mg SR (for tachycardia).

alsoinpain
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   Posted 6/13/2012 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Musiclover,

I too am sorry about your pain at such a young age. Being young tends to work against you sometimes, but you should definitely ask for an MRI.

Have you tried to take Ibuprofen and acetaminophen at the same time? I only ask because of the OTC "migraine" medicine that contains both, might be able to give you some relief. Also i would suggest Ben-gay or icy-hot as well. I know it sounds silly and i bring it up all the time but i love the Ben-gay that you keep in the freezer, its amazing.

Keep us updated and best of luck to you.
My DX: There is fairly advanced, moderate to severe degenerative disk disease at L3-L4 and L4-L5 with endplate sclerosis and osteophyte formation and moderate facet osteoarthropathy. There is a transitional left lumbosacral segment with articulation of the transitional segment and the sacrum, also referred to as Bertolotti syndrome. There are degenerative changes at C5-C6 with disk space narrowi

grainofsalt
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   Posted 6/13/2012 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Musiclover,

Sometimes it takes time to uncover everything that is actually causing the pain and sometimes its additional factors that are unknown at the time and are discovered later down the line.

Don't give up, there's a reason this is happening and the early you can find out the full details of why you are experiencing that level of pain, the better it can be treated.

I had severe back pain at 26 and it wasn't until I was 29 that the true cause of my issues were discovered.
MRI revealed disc bulge and test injections revealed RA. Radio Freq procedures helped for months, but pain is up and im having the procedure done again. Currently on 75 mgs of Nucynta (tapentadol - A MOR + NRI) 2 to 3 time per day and Soma 350 as needed.

Kaely
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   Posted 6/14/2012 12:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Music and welcome

I'm no doctor but it sounds to me like you may have a problem with the discs in your spine. Has the doctor done an MRI yet? If you have a ruptured disk it won't show up on an x-ray but it will show up on an MRI.

I truly hope you find out what's wrong and get the help you need. It's awful to be in pain and have no help. It's even worse when people around you don't understand and/or don't believe you are in pain.

Again, welcome to the forum. There are many people here that you can vent to, and they will understand. We're all in pain and know how bad it is to be alone with the pain. When I found this forum a couple weeks ago it was the best thing I'd found in a long time :)
Chronic pain, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Tennis Elbow (both arms), Arthritis (knees and fingers), Diabetes. Ruptured disk L-4, Severe degenerative damage L5-S1, ACDF C6-C7

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   Posted 6/14/2012 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi musiclover

I am so sorry younarevhaving to go through all this at your age, when you should be out having fun and enjoying yourself

I too think you should politely ask your doctor for x rays or maybe a scan. That will show anything up and put your mind at rest re the scoliosis. I too have had scoliosis and had awful pain from it but again the degree was higher.

My feelings would be to maybe see a physiotherapist, it is so important to keep the back muscles strong to avoid disc problems if you can. Many people get relief from chiropractors too. Swimming is great, especially in a warm pool, if that is too painful even walking in water is good. I too would be wary of taking anything too strong at your age. You need something to make you comfortable and able to function. My experience, although I am much older than you, is similar to many - finding the cause of back pain can by a long journey but don't give up, keep fighting until you know what you are dealing with.

Good luck music lover and best wishes

Jane

Luie
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   Posted 6/15/2012 11:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Man i know exactly how you feel i am 23 , i recently broke my c-7 vert. at work while lifting a patient so he wouldnt fall out of bed, ended up causing severe radial nerve damage and ended up with a paralyzed left hand with wrist drop, radial culopathy, im currently on 30mg MS contin TID and 15-30mg roxicodone every 4 hrs as needed and valuim 10mg every 6 hr as needed
i would pay anything to not have a single day where i had no pain and was able to just take a walk outside..

Musiclover08
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   Posted 6/17/2012 2:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all for being so wonderful. I'm going through a pretty tough time right now but it means alot to have support from all of you. If any of you want to share your stories, struggles, or advice then feel free too. I would love to listen to all of you. I hope all of you find relief from your pain. Thank you again.
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