Worse post-surgical pain again, not sure why

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   Posted 6/21/2012 11:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi.  I'm usually on the fibro forum, but did post here a few times when I had lower lumbar disc surgery back in March, L4-5...so, over 3 months ago now.  My sciatic pain was horrific prior to the surgery and right after. 
I've been gradually feeling much better, with the help of Hydrocodone 10-325 (x4) and Gabapentin 600 (x1) and getting stronger with physical therapy.  For the past few weeks, I've been taking just half a Hydro every other dose.  I still have a long way to go, still have some swelling and redness in my foot and ankle that my doctor doesn't understand, can't reach my feet, can't squat to the floor (my legs feel like they're breaking and just give out), but I seemed to be on a steady course upwards.  Walking farther and more normally... 
But the last couple of days, I'm pretty discouraged.  My physical therapist has started me on straight-leg lifts (5 on each leg 2 days ago.)  Maybe because I have fibro, I usually feel most of my pain from overdoing a day or two later, and maybe that's what happened.  I was supposed to start them at home today, but didn't, because of the pain. 
It's worst in the original area of pain from the disc, right in the middle of my left buttock muscle, and radiates out from there.  It also hurts deeper inside, almost what feels like rectal pain.  (I have strained a tiny bit when going to the bathroom, which I know is verboten, but hey - nobody's perfect!  It's hard to believe that could cause all this.)
Anybody else experience something like this?  (I'm betting yes!)  HELP!
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   Posted 6/22/2012 12:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I havent have surgery. But i have cmp. Chronic myofascial pain. Im always taking vicodin & other meds. I feel more pain is worser if i overdo something. & those meds is just tricking my mind. Im not a dr. But u might consider reading devin starlanyl book. Or just pls check her website. In my experience. What she documented is very true. I feel swollen sometimes cause i think because of my trigger points. Thats why i try not to get tired. I could not even undress myself before. & i feel its spreading. I cant push it to work. The more i tried. The more i get weak. & hurt.

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   Posted 6/22/2012 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   


       Debbie...I'm in a time crunch here...but will get back to you soon. I wanted to bump this up for you in the meantime.


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   Posted 6/22/2012 9:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Debbie you know it has been quite a while now since your surgery and to still have that type of pain and not be able to bend over and such, and now the other new pain. I think I would seriously  be thinking about going to another doctor and having them look at it, a second opinion so to speak! It just doesn't sound right, and the fact that you now have the rectal pain. I would think that your doctor or surgeon would be doing further testing or something. I know all this takes time,...... what does the folks at Physical Therapy say or think? From experience I know that most of them know about these things and at least have some thoughts about when a patients is having problems. Have you talked with any of them? Do they think this is normal healing?
Keep us informed on your progress, I do wish you well
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   Posted 6/22/2012 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Debbie, I am sorry to read you are still having problems. Something that caught me eye is the problem you are having with swelling and redness in your foot and leg, maybe your dr should have you checked by a vascular dr. to make sure there is no vascular problem going on, just a thought. Can you take any of the meds for nerve pain like Lyrica or Neurotin? Something I have seen a lot of people deal with after surgery is bad muscle spasms, what about you? It really sounds like you have a lot of inflammation going on.

I hope your dr ca get your comfort level in a better place and soon.....Susie
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   Posted 6/22/2012 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, talked to my phys. therapist today, and she said to hold off on the new exercises, and in fact, back way down on my routine ones too if needed. AND to call the doctor if things don't settle down, especially if my bladder or bowels become involved. Of course, this all comes to a head on Friday afternoon! Then I whacked the leg on a tv tray, sitting up from my nap. Wonderful.

To top it all off, I'm feeling the need to urinate more often this evening than normal. Hmmm, I don't like this. (I just googled it, and this is supposed to be a problem in cold weather, not hot.)

Help&faith - I do have that book, and I agree, it's a really good one. Maybe CMP plays into this, I don't know, but this area was a problem way before it got bad enough for surgery....I mean years before. Maybe the disc ruptured way back when, I wish I knew!

White Beard - Yes, my therapist knows about all my limitations, and thinks it's just from muscle disuse. She has been happy up till now with my progress in gaining strength, and range of motion.

Susie - Actually, no one has seemed too concerned about my foot and ankle (I shouldn't really have said leg, it barely goes up that far) - not the surgeon, and not my regular doctor, who said he thinks it might not even be related. Usually I worship the ground this guy walks on, but I think he's way wrong about this...it started at the exact same time as my horrible sciatic pain! It actually isn't that much to see, but is a bit darker and "fatter." Of course, it feels worse than it looks.  I am on Gabapentin, just at night.  No, I don't really have muscle spasms, but lots of aching and numbness.
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