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Rocky3050
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Posted 12/31/2016 8:03 PM (GMT -6)
I am looking for a opinions on different ways to help deal with my pain and this winter is really made the pain worse it seems. i have 6 shattered vertibra in my cervical and thorasic spine they have been fused and screwed back together and i feel its more scar tissue or the metal causing the pain. This is affecting me in many ways off and on mentally physically and emotional i am usually drained. Depression has seemed to be a problem lately also. Does anyone have a clue if this pain will go away one day or even just lessen up a bit. Im only 28 and was once one off the most active peolple you could meet. I miss that so much!
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straydog
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Posted 12/31/2016 11:01 PM (GMT -6)
Rocky, that is a lot for a 28 yr old. I am guessing you had some type of an accident. First off, what levels in your cervical spine were fused, same question for the thoracic area? How long ago was your surgery? Who did your surgery, an orthopedic or neurosurgeon? Sorry for so many questions but trying to figure out the extent of your situation.

Who is taking care of you now, surgeon or who? What sort of odds did the surgeon give on how successful your surgery would be?

What medications does your dr have you on, such as something for pain, a muscles relaxer & something for inflammation?

Unfortunately, chronic pain & depression go hand in hand. If you have not discussed the depression with your dr, such as your PCP, by all means get in & discuss it. There is a chance you may need some medication to get you out of this funk. You have a lot going on in your life right now. Often we find our pain lets up some once we get the depression under control.

Will wait until we hear back from you to see what we can suggest to help you out. Take care.
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Rocky3050
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Posted 1/4/2017 10:09 PM (GMT -6)
Sorry for late response things have been a bit rough lately and i havmt felt like myself. I was in a bad car accident i was drunk driving and lost control almost killing my friend and i. I receicved around 14-15 broken bones between oct 2014 to april 2015 6 of those being vertabra t3- t6 and also c2-c5 if im correct l. I have done pt twice since then with very minimum progress. T3 t6 my thorasics is my biggest problem this pain really takes a toll and drags me down. I am currently taking methocarbomol750 doesnt help at all! And percocet 5/325 both 4 times a day as needed both barely help. I think i feel the best when im just busy and mentally i try to focus on something other than pain. Wich is why at times i had chosen alprazalame instead of percocet. When i had to really pic a choice i went with percocet the law changed where i live amd i can no longer have them both. Also my procedures have been done by a nurosurgen dr. K pheong
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(Seashell)
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Posted 1/5/2017 8:26 AM (GMT -6)
Roccy3050:
I have advanced avascular necrosis of my hips and jaws. My hips are crumbling due to years of taking corticosteroids to manage auto-immune mixed connective tissue disorder. I knew the dangers of the corticosteroids, but had not other recourse.

I am also a former marathon runner. Running and walking has always been my personal oxygen. Running has always been my life's favorite passion. I am at one and at peace with myself when I am on a long run along a nature trail or remote roadway. The rhythm of my breathing and steps, like a metronome.

Running is now a distant memory. I remain able to walk, albeit limited distances. I depend on prescription pain medication to remain upright and walking. I time my doses depending on what I need to do in a given day. Even then, I am relegated to lying on my bed for about 2/3 of the waking day. My crumbling bones simply cannot tolerate weight-bearing. I am a petite person - 5 feet 2 inches tall, 85 pounds.

In my mind, I want to run. It causes me emotional distress to not be able to stand and walk at will.

Adapting and adjusting and coping to chronic pain, for me, is a daily work in progress. The work of co-existing in my body is an on-going process.

What helps/works for me:
1. Keeping my mind engaged and occupied. I am an avid reader. Reading allows my mind to travel to new places and to experience new people and to become wise on topics I might not naturally gravitate to. Browse a bookstore and pick up a new book. Find a mental escape.

2. Keeping my body physically active in new ways. I may not be able to run in a 10 kilometer fun, but I can still practice simple yoga and I can still work on strengthening my upper body using free weights and I can still walk short distances.

It is interesting to me to see how much I have been willing to re-negotiate life. "If I cannot run, can I at least be able to enjoy a 30 minute session of yoga?," I will query to God/Higher Power.

With all my might, I work to avoid becoming sedentary. If I must rest on my bed extensively during the waking hours, I make effort to get up every 30 minutes to walk the length of a hallway corridor in the condominium residence where I live.

3. Use of warm buckwheat packs. Oh, I love these warm packs. Place in the microwave and warm/heat. The buckwheat beads allow the pack to conform to the contours of the body area in distress, a gently penetrating heat. I use a buckwheat pack called "Sweet Dreams" that are hand-made by a local artist here in Portland, Ore. They are available on-line. My day begins and ends with heating of soothing buckwheat packs.

4. Keep a small group of friends or family for connection. Chronic pain is isolating. I have lost most of my friends because I can no longer keep up with their high-functioning lives. I have less-and-less in common with people who are otherwise healthy. My relationship with my mother has been strained by my chronic health and her exhausted due to worry and concern.

I remember to express gratitude to those friends and family who remain in my life. We all need human connection. It is as vital as food and water.

The one constant in my life is my little tea-cup Maltese, Molly. This little dog means the world to me. Her companionship and love is genuinely heartwarming. If you do not have a pet, I highly recommend considering one. The unconditional love of a cat or a dog (or a hamster or a snake), is genuinely life-affirming. Molly's companionship fills all the empty holes in my soul.

Use this forum, and its members, as a vital means of connection. You are among friends here and people who understand the true pain of chronic pain.
- Karen -
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straydog
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Posted 1/5/2017 9:59 AM (GMT -6)
Hi Rocky, Karen has given you some very important tips about dealing with chronic pain. I am assuming you see a PM dr. Yes, the laws has changed drastically over the past 5 years or so. The war on drugs was not about street drugs, it was aimed at pill mills, drs that over prescribe medications & a ton of other things. The end result is the huge impact it has made on chronic pain patients.

Not sure how long you have been on Robaxin as a muscle relaxer, have you considered talking to the dr about trying you on something different?

You have a lot going on with your health issues & many of us practice distraction all of the time as a coping mechanism.

Take care.
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Alcie
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Posted 1/6/2017 6:48 PM (GMT -6)
I've read that there are black box warnings about taking opioids and benzos together, but I didn't know there were any actual laws forbidding it.

What does one do when those are the only effective and tolerable meds for pain and spasms (from different causes)?
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(Seashell)
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Posted 1/7/2017 10:04 AM (GMT -6)
Alice:
My understanding is that the dual prescribed dosing of a narcotic agent + a benzodiazapen agent is under new and strict guidelines issued by the NIH and CDC and DEA.

Dual prescriptions for a narcotic + a benzo can be only for a limited quantity - a few days worth. This reflexive action was taken based on statistical data showing an uptick of sudden death in people who had been prescribed both concurrently.

I do think that there can be individual variation with one's personal physician. But the documentation in support of a dual prescription will need to be substantial - ex. showing other medication regimens that have been attempted and failed.

Susie will likely know the details of the prescription oversight on benzos and narcotics better than anyone.
- Karen -
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straydog
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Posted 1/7/2017 10:21 AM (GMT -6)
Karen, you summed it very well. A few months back I read an article about this & there was some discussion here about it. From what I read the benzo's with pain meds would be given on a limited basis & the patient may end up having to make a choice pain meds or a benzo eventually. All it takes is the drs get this notification & we know what will happen. Prime example is what Rocky stated above.
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