Pain levels massively reduced...

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cogito
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   Posted 10/5/2017 6:30 PM (GMT -7)   
HI everyone,

I used to be a regular here, but got irritated with someone and stopped posting.

Anyhow, I'm back because I want to share some great news, something that has made a huge difference for me.

I've tried dozens of supplements over the years and other than short-lived placebo effects, nothing helped...till this.

about 2.5 months ago, I started taking 250mg of agmatine 2x daily. Maybe it helped a bit. Then, a few weeks later, I added 25mg of tianeptine sulphate 2x daily.

Immediately, I was doing better and now, I'm doing great!

I was taking 300mg Tramadol ER, 10mg hydrocodone 2x daily (daytime)& 7.5mg oxycodone 2x daily(nighttime).

I'm still taking the Tramadol, but rarely take anything else. I'll still wake up with some pain, and have pain late afternoon, but rather than being in constant pain, just a couple breakthrough episodes, 0 or near 0 pain otherwise.

I had zero withdrawal too... though fear that won't be so with the Tramadol.

Last month, I had my PM cut my oxycodone script back. This month, I won't need anything but the Tramadol.

I have no clue if it is the combo or primarily the Tianeptine, but don't want to experiment yet. The two (morning, dinner) have been amazing. The only side effect was some constipation, which went away after about a week.

You can Google both supplements & discuss with your PM.

Lastly, check out Proglumide to roll back tolerance and help with withdrawal. I didn't need it, but had it on my list as a backup.

theHTreturns...
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   Posted 10/5/2017 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   
good on ya. good to see ya posting again.

Ljm2014
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   Posted 10/5/2017 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I will look them up, unfamiliar with them..always good to share things that help : )

(Seashell)
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   Posted 10/5/2017 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Cogito:
It is nice to see you posting once again. Welcome home.

I is always uplifting to read a post where someone, such as yourself, has gained relief from pain. I have made note of the supplements that have me benefitted you and am going to try one or both for myself.

Continued best wishes for less pain and more joy,
Karen
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cogito
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   Posted 10/9/2017 5:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi guys, a bit of an update...

I raised my tianeptine dose to see if I could get beyond the couple BT episodes I still have... but the extra dose made me feel dizzy. So, after 3 days of experimenting with modestly higher doses, today I took no tianeptine, had no dizziness, but my pain levels were up.

Finally, I took a modest 12.5mg of tianeptine before dinner plus 2.5mg of oxycodone after dinner.

One other BIG impact of my agmatine and/or tianeptine... I now need just 1/2 to a 1/3 of my BT dose. If you Google agmatine, you'll see that it is suppose to increase opioid efficacy and roll back tolerance.

Of course, our bodies differ, but I'm very curious to see if others get similar benefits.

From what I've read, it takes around 6 weeks for the agmatine to roll back tolerance, though the tianeptine worked within hrs.
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