SCD diet

 

Dave..great to hear. Very incouraging. What do you think of GAPs vs SCD?  From what I understand I hear GAPs incorporate things that actually heal your gut as well as just keeping symptoms away.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Gail, the theory behind the diet is that is starves out the bad flora from your gut and even a few grains of illegals can feed the bad guys for weeks. So you are either fanatically compliant on this diet or it is unlikely you will get results. Most of the folks I talk with who are doing SCD are not doing any illegals. It would be interesting to do a poll.
livingwell - I looked at both and decided on SCD. I guess the deciding factor for me was that SCD was designed initially to heal gut issues. And SCD for sure heals the guts of many, me included. GAP does discuss the importance of omega 3 and 6 being in balance and I have incorporated this into my diet. So while I am 100% SCD compliant I also take learning from other diets.

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SCD - Fanatical Compliance since Nov 2010 (Low Carb, Healthy Fats, No Processed Foods, Low Omega 6, Tumeric,...)
Buys all expsensive drugs from Canada
Pentasa (3 x 500), Vit D and B complex, fish oil and SCD vit. Amitriptyline for sleeping
Feeling good to great, almost every day!

You can make the yogurt in your oven: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/yoghurt_scd.htm

I use the Excalibur dehydrator to make my yogurt, but it's a bit expensive.

I haven't posted in a long time due to time constraints, but I'm still going strong on SCD. Over 3 years now, and I've been in remission for about 2 years. I love this diet .

Dave, I believe that Custom Probiotics Starter # 2 is not legal because it contains B.Longum which is bifidus.
Moodindigo

Hi Dave. How r u?

Now, was that pun on purpose? bowel vs bowl...? lol

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Crohn's Disease since the 1990s.
Close family member has had epilepsy for more than 45 years.

In the German forums I don't get any support for SCD whatsoever. I've never seen so many people being against something.

So yesterday my mom in law, who was supportive with this diet so far, told me I should eat normal again, because I need to gain weight. I told her in the past I ate what I wanted and how much I wanted (I was always hungry while in a flare-up) and I would still lose weight. I also told her it takes up to a year to be symptom-free. Also I said that while being in a flare, I never gain. As soon as I get healthy again, I will gain again.

How can I convince her that the diet is helping? So far I stopped my diarrhea. I'm loosing a lot of blood which I seem to compensate with all the meat I eat everyday. Had some blood work done just a few days ago and my iron + ferritin looked fine. And I still have mucus, which causes a lot of urgencies and accidents. Not sure, when this will stop.

I follow the stages of pecanbread.com now and I'm in stage 2.

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Diagnosed with UC in 2002. Was treated with Mesalazine, Azathioprin, MTX, Sulfasalazine, Remicade and Cortison. Currently I'm on Humira and the SCD diet.

I'm a newbie and trying SCD.  This is hard.  I've been gluten free for 2 years already and I can't do dairy so I was half way there.  But I'm really craving the starches.  I miss rice.  I am REALLY struggeling with the SCD but trying really hard to stay on it so I can get off the meds .  I am currently taking 2400mg of Asacol-I think that's a high dosage what do you think? Please HELP I'm getting discouraged. I'm on week 5 of SDC. HELP ME PLEASE

LilBitE said...
I'm a newbie and trying SCD. This is hard. I've been gluten free for 2 years already and I can't do dairy so I was half way there. But I'm really craving the starches. I miss rice. I am REALLY struggeling with the SCD but trying really hard to stay on it so I can get off the meds . I am currently taking 2400mg of Asacol-I think that's a high dosage what do you think? Please HELP I'm getting discouraged. I'm on week 5 of SDC. HELP ME PLEASE

Have you noticed any improvement since cutting out rice? If not, you could probably safely add rice back into your diet... Pretty sure it says in the book that if you don't notice improvement within the first 30 days, the diet is not going to work for you.

RE: DFDave... the theory behind the diet states that it's to starve out bad bacterial, but all the diet really is is an anti-candida, elimination diet. Elaine even stated that the whole "fanatical adherence" crap was thrown in there because she knew it would be difficult to get back on track if one were to cheat. I'm sorry but any sugar is going to feed bacteria - whether it comes from bread/rice or bananas and grape juice. You could theoretically be on the diet forever and never really starve out the "bad bacteria" if you chose to eat only the high-sugar foods that are allowed - assuming you even had yeast issues to begin with.

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Remicade
Prednisone as needed
Colocort as needed

Currently on a low-residue, low-fiber diet. Tried SCD, gluten free, in the past with no real improvement.

There's no need for the SCD to be as strict as it is. Fair enough if you're happy following the diet to the letter; I've no problems with people following the diet in that way if it suits them. But there's no point in torturing yourself. Bacteria can feed off practically anything - sugar, starch, soluble fibre, even protein if there's no sugar available. And 'good' bacteria feed off the same things as 'bad' bacteria, so the idea of selectively starving the bad guys while managing to completely ignore the good guys doesn't make much sense to me.

Whatever. At any rate, rice is one of the most easily digested foods out there and is a 'safe' food for most folks with IBD.

Edit: Yeah, this thread is a bit past its sell-by-date... >_>

I agree it's easy to starve yourself on GAPS/SCD. I'm eating rice again beacause I lost too much weight being strict on GAPS.

SCD/GAPS for the first 2 months was great for me but months3-5 I went down hill and flared. So ensure you're getting enough calories one way or another. I also found eth flare the hardest one i've had to get under control - possibly becuase i had lost weight and my body was deficient of resources to deal with it.

Rapid weight loss isn't a good thing obviously so yes...eat the rice.

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UC dx in 1999. Living in New Zealand
Moderately active symptoms over last 4 years. Pentasa, Asacol and Prednisone no longer induce long-term remission for me. Taking new path with LDN (4.5mg)and GAPS Diet + 200mg DHEA, ProBiotics, Vitamins & liquid mineral drops

Did it,
Good luck Vicky
Was wondering if you are doing this because you are in school?
Healing thoughts
Dave

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Dx - Crohn's, Diverticulitis, SIBO, Carbohydrate Malabsorption, Slow Small Bowel Motility

Diet - SCD, Low FodMap, Low Carb

Current Drugs - Pentasa (3 x 500), LDN (4.5), Amitriptyline (25),

Past Drugs - Xifaxan (Rifaximin), Prednosone, Entocort, Cipro

Supplements - Vit D and B complex, fish oil and SCD multivitamin