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MToronto2
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Posted 4/30/2010 7:05 AM (GMT -7)
As do you Charlee,

Hey, sometimes object lessons work. For those you really want to understand, as them about when they were most sick, or if they've ever had stomach flue or food poisoning. Tell them it's like that, but worse, and a flare doesn't end in week, but can last much longer -- so far for you it's been a year, and your not done yet.

Put that one in your back pocket, it will come in handy

I've yet to meet any one with a chronic illness who doesn't bottom out emotionally at some point, it's a hard adjustment. Life goes on, and we fear it goes on without us, and the chitty party is some parts do, but not all. The trick for me was to alter my thinking from either-or, to both-and. Illness and Life, for all that it brings.

I don't know about others, but living in the moment helps me, granted the moments in the can, or lying in bed, or, or... do suck. But there are also the moments when your husband comes to hold you, your kids make you laugh, or proud, or yell (it is their job, right?). There's the first snow and the first bud, a rainbow surprise, a good book, flick, or friend who comes to visit.

I nourish myself in as many ways as I can, since food don't always do it.

Your very right, it takes some time to figure yourself out in this new context, and it's hard to explain to others when you've not figured it out for yourself yet.

And hey, with IBD, and any big change, there are no stupid questions, ok?

You provided a service by starting this thread, nearly 300 people have read it so far, not because it is a stupid question, but on the contrary, it's a very good question regarding a situation all of us experience.

Well done!

More HUGS,
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Joie1
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Posted 4/30/2010 11:13 PM (GMT -7)
Darlin' Charlee, when it comes to family, sometimes they get it fast or slow. I've had the Crohns for about a year or so and my mom STILL thinks I'd get completely cured if I only had a priest come by and do an "anointing of the ill". I wanna slap her sometimes when she brings it up since she's still got COPD, and a heart infection. Basically I love her but I can't stand her religious rantings. Be glad your mom is TRYING to understand. My mom stresses the hell out of me and she'll drive me nuts if I don't answer her calls.
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Grandpato2
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Posted 4/30/2010 11:55 PM (GMT -7)
Charlee watch that depression hasn't snuck up on you. Mention "thoughts of doom and gloom setting in rapidly" immediately to your family doctor. I'm very concerned that your thoughts have shifted so quickly. These thoughts are NOT normal! If I was your neighbour I'd take you personally! Please don't disregard this warning! I have been in your position in the past and understand why your Dr. should know how you feel. Rob
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MToronto2
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Posted 5/1/2010 8:28 AM (GMT -7)
I agree with Grandpato2 to a point.

Personally, I think depression is part of the adaptation process, feeling some doom and gloom about a life long diagnosis is not just normal, it's a reasonable response to an unreasonable situation. Adapting to pain and suffering is not easy.

That being said, finding a good therapist (Good meaning, you feel a connection pretty much the first time you walk in the door; if you feel any level of discomfort, find another one. A therapist is like a close friend, either they are or they are not) to talk to, while you work it out ain't such a bad idea either. Keep in mind that anti depressants can mess with the gut, which is not to say don't go there if you feel you need to, but keep in mind too, that the low moods pass, that malnutrition and pain mess with our moods, and everyone adapting to a chronic illness goes through these stages.

The loss of our health is huge and I think grieving is part of the process.

I would suggest a Mindfulness and pain or Mindfullness and depression group, it really doesn't matter, Mindfullness being the key tool here, is very very helpful.

When I was on sterioids, sleeping on 3 hours a day, I found the roids actually helped me meditate and the mediation allows me to clear out all kinds of mental crap and deal with each moment as it comes.

Something for all who are new to CD and steriods, I'm not sure this can be said enough, the steroids will mess with your mood. If your find yourself in a hopeless feeling for too long, it might be them roids, and time for a med switch, certainly before you add anti depressants to the mix. Steroids are too much for some in terms of their emotional side effects and since there are other CD drugs to try, better to move on than add on.

Keep in mind this is just my thinking and to always talk to your doctor.
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*Phoebe*
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Posted 5/2/2010 3:27 AM (GMT -7)
I have found that one of the hardest or most irritating things about this disease - first off, having to explain what Crohn's is, thousands of times over - the people you meet who want to know, or need to know, for various reasons - and secondly, people's ignorance when it comes to the illness. I am on a rough version of the specific carbohydrate diet, and everybody assumes it is gluten free, or wheat free, and enjoys suggesting things I can have (when I can't). It's amazing how many times you can say 'I can't have any grains' and yet still have people suggest rye etc etc.

It takes a lot of patience to exist with this illness. I am at a point where I am sick of explain what crohn's is, I think I might just print out some handy flyers and when somebody asks I can give them some FAQs!

Well there's some moaning for you! My apologies....

Life does and will go on with this illness. It is difficult and there will be low points, but also high points, when you are in remission and able to appreciate a healthy lifestyle.... also, I've found this illness makes me much more appreciative of the small things in life, and much more understanding (despite my complaints) of other people's sufferings.
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Nanners
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Posted 5/2/2010 8:30 AM (GMT -7)
I just want to reinterate what was said above, DO NOT TAKE NSAIDS, they will cause you nothing but problems. I even get really sick from Toradol (that is a NSAID too, see link below). I stick to either prescription pain meds from my doc (usually they have Tylenol in them and that is allowed) or something like Tylenol arthritis. Good luck!

http://www.rxlist.com/toradol-drug.htm  

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Bammer
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Posted 5/2/2010 8:31 AM (GMT -7)
Charlee, there are probably a lot of people that have been in  remission  for a long time that are not posting on this forum any more.

Myself, my GI says I am in clinical remission. I have Crohns, I have had a resection and I am on Crohns medication but truly never experienced a Crohn's flare. I sometimes think I will jinx myself by saying that but I know it is a chronic illness, I have a lot to learn and if I can help others in any way, so be it.

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MToronto2
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Posted 5/2/2010 9:17 AM (GMT -7)
Nanners,

I appreciate your valid concerns, keep in mind though this drug needs an Rx, I would and do avoid NSAIDS of the over the counter kind.

Still I think it important to point out that, some of us can tolerate Toradol, I do very well and have been on it up to a year (it was the only painkiller that worked for me when I lived through an auto-immune rejection to abdominal mesh, opiates did not touch that torturous pain.) and it did not cause a flare or even the damage that the warnings are concerned about. I have to take a PPI with it, but that's it.

I have greater difficulties with opiates-- for me codeine causes instant havok with my guts, I do not tolerate them well, plus I'd rather have the ones I can use in my back pocket should I have to go through surgery again and for procedures.

While it is highly likely that Toradol will not agree with most, some of us metabolize it well, I'm not the only one I know with CD who uses it. I am careful to have related blood work when I do and take PPI's to protect my gut, but honestly I do not know where I'd be without this drug.

I think it's best for each of us to talk to our doctor about all drugs, to find what works best for our individual systems.
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Nanners
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Posted 5/2/2010 9:22 AM (GMT -7)
Mt I just want this new member to understand that Toradol IS a NSAID and NSAID are not recommended for us. I tried Toradol myself and I was only able to take once as it really made me sick. I have seen most who have problems with Vicodin or Percoset type meds take Ultram and have good luck with that without the narcotic side effects or the damage a NSAID can do. JHO
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MMMNAVY
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Posted 5/2/2010 10:04 AM (GMT -7)
When it comes down to it we do what is best for us under medical supervision. It depends on what is causing you the most pain and what you are willing with gamble with, and I think that is best done with your doctor and you working together.

That being said Do Not Gamble with your health, if you do not have to.  Especially when you have alternatives that might work better, because toradol is not a long term pain med.

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MToronto2
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Posted 5/2/2010 10:19 AM (GMT -7)
Totally agree Navy :)
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jhicks
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Posted 5/4/2010 7:16 PM (GMT -7)
After my bowel resection, I was in remission for four years. I felt so good (in fact, better than I had in years) that I slacked off on taking my meds like I should (down to once a day instead of two). That was a no-no. Last spring I suffered from debilitating Crohn's-related arthritis in my jaw, pinky, both knees and ankles. My gut felt fine, but I literally had to crawl up the steps to get to my bedroom for a couple of weeks. My GI doc wanted to put me on Remicade or Imuran, but I refused. Went to an acupuncturist who did a CDSA stool test and found I was totally lacking in lactobacillus. She put me on a vegetarian lacto probiotic, treated me with acupuncture, gave me a Chinese herb called Isatis Cooling and a vegetarian glucosamine. My pain started to abate. Within 4-6 months my symptoms and pain cleared. I have been doing great since and am back to what I'd consider a remission. I do try and watch what I eat in the sense that I won't eat salads three days in a row, etc. But I can pretty much eat and do whatever I want. In my case, the resection was a Godsend. I have not had to add to my prescriptive regimen (I only take Penatasa now). I also take fish oil daily and Resveratrol. I wish you well and hope your remission is as symptom and pain-free as possible. Blessings.
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ZiggyZagnut
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Posted 5/4/2010 7:33 PM (GMT -7)
My remission was complete (at least my perception). I was med free and pain free, solid poops and no problems. Things were normal for so long that I thought I may have been misdiagnosed. Then, this last Nov. my CD came back super bad.

I miss those days.
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cleo35
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Posted 5/5/2010 11:05 AM (GMT -7)
Gosh Rita, I'm really sorry that the NSAIDS started you off again. That was the first thing my GI told me - no aspirin and no medications with aspirin in them. Hearing your story I see now why he was adamant about it. Best of luck getting back on track!
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