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first_time
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Posted 10/18/2010 9:16 PM (GMT -8)
My positive experience with un-sedated colonoscopy today:

At my wife’s insistence I made an appointment 6 weeks ago for my first colonoscopy (50 yr old – male), left on vacation, returned and then started reading about what I’d signed up for. Lots of information on the benefits of colon cancer screening and a few stories about Versed (midazolam) – the ‘conscious sedative’ normally used in combination with Fentanyl. After researching down that path for a couple days, I concluded that the risks associated with Versed were unacceptable. I discussed this with Megan the consultation nurse (I was nervous and she was a great listener) and was told that Dr. ‘R’ was the go-to doctor at the clinic and that he had done a number of colonoscopies without sedation.

It took a couple weeks to get my head wrapped around the whole thing and be a little less nervous. I ate lightly on Saturday, then no solid food on Sunday through Monday afternoon. Sunday was a lazy day of watching football (3 games), cooking shows and a baseball playoff game. Then, MoviPrep. I suppose it’s not pronounced ‘movie’ because it’s not entertaining at all, but it is pretty effective. I followed the clinic’s suggestion – mix it ahead, add Crystal Lite Lemonade and chill. At 5:00 I chugged my first glass full followed immediately by a mouthful of warm chicken broth. Three more glasses to chug every fifteen minutes followed by another 8 glasses of clear fluids. about two hours after the first glass, it was time. Six flushes in succession, then a while later the process repeated. Things slowed down after that and I was done (except for gurglies) by 10:30.

My wife brought the potion, a glass and a mug of warm broth to me the next morning at 7:30 (she’s awesome). My knees were a little weak as I stood in front of the mirror getting ready to chug the first of another 4 glasses of this stuff. This time, it was only a one hour wait from the first glass and was done (and more comfortable – no gurglies) by 9:30. My last drink of water was at 10:30 in preparation for a 1:30 procedure.

We arrived at Camino Medical Clinic Surgi-Center at 12:30 as required for my 1:30 appointment. Walking to the front door, my wife thanked me for doing this (she was rather insistent – I think she wants me around for a while, but was also aware that I was pretty nervous). I was called in after five minutes waiting. Weight, blood pressure (138/89 – a little high, but I was nervous), and temp, then off to bed #7. “Everything off and into the bag, put on the gown", “Do I keep on my t-shirt and socks” I ask?. No, everything off, use our socks. The teal socks are cute (with little rubber feet outlines on the bottom for non-slip), but not as comfortable as mine. Oh well. I strip, gown up and wait. Now is when I wish my wife was next to me so I could hold her hand. Yep, still nervous. Breathe consciously and quietly – stop thinking.

The nurse returns a few minutes later, asks lots of medical history questions and ends with, "When was your last meal?" We go through the details of my preparation. Given my dislike of the preparation, I followed instructions to the ‘T’ – I was not going to do a go-around. I stated that I did not want sedation (ok with fentanyl, but not Versed) when she asked me to sign the sedation consent form. That stopped her for a second, so was told that the doctor would be in shortly to discuss. I approved starting the IV (for hydration) prior to my signing the consent form. The doctor arrived - he was familiar with my no-sedation request (forwarded by the consultation nurse a week prior) and had no problem, though he was clear (twice) that if he were having a colonoscopy, he would choose sedation. Not a hard sell, probably just voicing personal opinion, but….

The nurse modified the consent form to read “No medium sedation” & “No Versed – per patient” (Fentanyl falls under the ‘sedative’ protocol so we could not completely remove the sentences allowing sedation from the consent form). Sidenote: I really, really wish that this could have all been worked out and signed a week prior to my arrival. I’ve just voluntarily induced diarrhea twice in the last 12 hours, haven’t eaten in 36 hours, I’m tired and nervous. Now is NOT the time to ask me to negotiate and sign a legally binding document. Really! I sign the consent form.

I’m wheeled into the sterile room to begin the procedure.

Nurses moving around, auto-blood pressure cuff on my left arm, cannula, pulse oximiter, “Please turn on to your left side” The blanket remains on from a little above my knees to my feet, then gown is draped from the bed to my shoulder and side. I ask Dr. R. if I will get a guided tour with jokes. He stated apologetically that his jokes were stale years ago, so no jokes, but he was happy to give the tour. He explains that he’ll insert the scope and then put some air in to make room for the scope (and to see the colon walls) and that he’ll move to the end of the large intestine (the cecum) quickly and then back out slowly to inspect. He applies lube to me, then I feel as he gently inserts the scope. He explains that he’s currently in the sigmoid colon (called sigmoid because it’s ‘S’ shaped). I feel it – he’s moving back and forth little to get around – it’s not a straight line. Then I hear, “I’m in the transverse colon now”, “Really?”, I think – we’ve passed the turn from the descending colon to the transverse? I read from someone else that the turn was extremely painful for 15-20 seconds. I feel more movement inside – I suppose if I put my hand on my belly, I would feel where the scope was, but I keep my hands where they are as I focus on relaxing, anticipating pain. Cheers from the nurses and a ‘hoorah’ from Dr. R. “You’re at the cecum?” I ask? “Yes”. Two, maybe three minutes, from insertion to cecum, no pain, minimal discomfort a couple times (as he guided the scope around turns apparently). This was better than the best I’d heard about others’ experiences. This was easy. I knew from others’ accounts that the hard work was done – there was nothing else that would cause any pain.

The tour back was uneventful. As he pumped air in to keep the intestine inflated, it escaped a number of times. I figured that since he was pumping it in, it was his problem if it was coming out – there was no dignity issue. I watched as he sprayed down the colon walls a couple times to get a good view (there was a little material left, though I cannot imagine how – even Dr. R. was complimentary of what an excellent prep job I had done). We talk about what got him into this line of work (he started out in engineering school for two years), then what I do and maybe 10 minutes later, he’s done. Nurses start pulling lines, removing blood pressure cuff, pulse oximiter, cannula and I’m wheeled back to ‘recovery’.

The recovery nurse remains briefly, then leaves. Three or four minutes later Dr. R, peeks his head around the curtain, disappears, then a couple minutes later reappears. I say, “I’m ready to go – can I get the IV out and a wet wipe so I can get my butt out of here (pun intended)?” He laughs at the pun and repeats what he said during the procedure (you look great, you can eat, you can drive, have a great day and see you in 10 years). The nurse returns in another four to five minutes, removes the blood pressure cuff (I’m 122/79 I think), pulse oximiter and IV (Removing the tape holding in the IV was more painful than the procedure itself). As she’s leaving I have to ask again for something to clean up the lube with, she briefly returns with a blue towel, I hop off the bed, clean up, get dressed open the curtain, turn left and start walking, looking for the exit. The nurse is surprised by my presence, I return with her to pick up my instructions (for dealing with the amnesia caused by sedation – does not apply thank you), and the discharge nurse escorts me out.

My wife is surprised (It’s now about 1:30 – that’s the time my procedure was scheduled for) and we proceed to hamburger, fries and diet coke. We go home to eat (just in case any of that stuff is still inside me awaiting liquid to reactivate) and sit around talking about my experience (she’s due in 2 years), then head to the market to get makings for a good dinner tonight.
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tsitodawg
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Posted 10/18/2010 10:00 PM (GMT -8)
Do you have crohn's disease? It was really interesting to read about your experience because of the over 30 scopes that I have had not one was unsedated. I know many here have done it but I could never because of the pain associated with it. I always come out of colonoscopies extremely in pain due to the induced air and the irritation to my diseased bowel, no sedation would only make it worse for me. I had the unfortunate experience of waking up once during the middle of one and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.

Post Edited (tsitodawg) : 10/19/2010 3:39:16 AM (GMT-6)

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Jen77
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Posted 10/19/2010 12:44 AM (GMT -8)
I'm glad you had a great experience, but I'm curious as to why you decided to post this on a Crohn's board? No offense but it's a bit insulting, considering how all of us are dealing with a serious condition. That will require us to have this test often (sometimes once a year or more). To me it's like going to a breast cancer board to tell them what a great mammogram I had today, and how it came back negative.

For MANY of us we deal with pain in there every single day. So this test can be quite painful (I woke up during a scope and recall lots of pain, due to ulceration I had). So I have no desire to be awake for it, but if others can and want to I think that's fine. But that's a decision that needs to be made with the doctor and the patient.

Post Edited (Jen77) : 10/19/2010 2:51:02 AM (GMT-6)

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MikeB
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Posted 10/19/2010 4:21 AM (GMT -8)
I am a 30-year Crohns patient who has had a half dozen unsedated scopes with minimal discomfort and great ease. It is a myth that a colonooscopy causes pain inside the colon. There are no sensory nerve endings in the lining of the colon. The discomfort from a scope is caused by looping, where the scope occasionally bulges the colon out going around corners and pressing on adjoining muscles and other organs. My GI has had unsedated scopes himself and the nurses always tell me that the tiny minority of patients who do them with no sedation actually do much better than those under versed or propofol because they are aware and can anticipate the rare episodes of discomfort. It's really no big deal -- the worst discomfort I have experienced would rate perhaps a 3 on a 1-10 scale and that for only a couple of seconds at a time. Plus I get visual results in real time watching the screen. There have also been academic studies done on this showing that a very large majority of patients who underwent unsedated scopes would do them again and reported far less discomfort than they anticipated. The only factor that would increase pain for a  CD patient would be stricturing, which would result in more looping. It's really a very minor medical procedure that can be done by most patients eaily and quickly wide awake.

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Nanners
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:00 AM (GMT -8)
I have had one scope done without enough sedation and it was a miserable time for me. Extremely painful experience. Some folks like MikeB and CrohnieToo prefer to be without sedation. In my opinion good for them, but you ain't gonna catch me doing one without the sedation. I would also like to ask the original poster, "Do you have Crohns Disease?".
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Rider Fan
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:07 AM (GMT -8)
I read the first paragraph....I think I'll wait for the movie! :)
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Zanne
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:52 AM (GMT -8)
I've had several done unsedated due to blown IV's and they were extremely painful. I would never choose to be unsedated. If you do not have ulceration or current problems and want to try, then more power to you, but I do not want to ever go through that again and would never volunteer for it!
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NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 10/19/2010 6:11 AM (GMT -8)
I wouldn't dream of getting a colonoscopy without sedation. In fact, after my last experience, next time I want to be knocked out with general anaesthetic (if there is a next time). It was extremely painful towards the end; I tried to bear it but it got too much and I asked for more painkiller. (Which I think they gave, but it didn't seem to do much good.)

Also, I agree with Jen77's post. It's one thing having a colonoscopy done when you are basically well and another thing entirely when you are ill and have a severely inflammed/ulcerated colon.
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Rider Fan
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Posted 10/19/2010 6:22 AM (GMT -8)
I know someone who just attempted an unsedated scope who doesn't have CD and she had to have the procedure stopped early because she was in so much pain. The doctor never even made it to the transverse colon.
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CrohnieToo
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Posted 10/19/2010 6:27 AM (GMT -8)
None of you are allowing for the fact that the SKILL, more so than the EXPERIENCE, of the person doing the scope DIRECTLY effects the discomfort encountered.

MOST gastros today are virtually overwhelmed w/the need to do screening colonoscopies. And scopes are money makers. They are in a hurry to get as many scopes done in a day as possible. Unsedated colonoscopies require a little more time, a little more patience, more skill.

I don't begrudge those who prefer or need sedation - but to take offense at First-Time's sharing of his first colonoscopy is petty. Whatever gets you thru the scope: sedation, no sedation, who cares, except YOU, and that it gets DONE as needed.

Good on you, First_Time and THANK YOU for sharing!
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Posted 10/19/2010 6:53 AM (GMT -8)
Sorry. I arrived via google to a story from poobah not realizing the nature of the forum. I was appreciative of the information and wanted to add to it. I've asked the moderator to remove the post - I'll find somewhere else to post the info.
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CrohnieToo
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Posted 10/19/2010 7:50 AM (GMT -8)
First_Time, THANK YOU for sharing your scope experience. I'm sorry that you received some of the responses that you did.

I'm even more sorry that you felt it necessary to ask a moderator to remove your post.

And I'm even more sorry that there were those in this forum who responded so immaturely to your report of your experience.

We are all over the spectrum when it comes to disease activity, pain response, medication and sedation response, etc. There SHOULD be room and tolerance in this forum for ALL of us to share our experience w/o ostracism and criticism.

I am more than disappointed in how some in the forum responded to your sharing. You deserved better.
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Posted 10/19/2010 12:55 PM (GMT -8)
First time- I really appreciate your posting because I have such bad drug allergies, I panic every time I get IV drug therapy and have contemplated a colonoscopy without sedation but was unsure if this was even possible. Thank you for your post.
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Dagger
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Posted 10/19/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -8)
I have been diagnosed with "Ileitis, probably Crohn's", in my small intestine.

Anyway, I had a colonoscopy without sedation and it wasn't that bad. It was uncomfortable when the scope hit the "corners". Uncomfortable, not painful. The GI doc had to slow it down and I had to twist a bit but it worked out ok.
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Wolfie40
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Posted 10/19/2010 4:05 PM (GMT -8)
No way I'm doing that without sedation. Knock me out cold....
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NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:22 PM (GMT -8)
Woah, I certainly didn't mean for you to remove your post. The context of it just seemed a bit weird, but once you explained it then that weirdness was removed. (Although, poobah? >_> <_<)

*scrolls up* Wait. Your post is still there... Oh well, that's good. I hope it stays.
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Tara28
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:55 PM (GMT -8)
I would never do a colonoscopy without sedation.
My old gastro said the way my colon looked, he wouldn't do that to an animal (non-sedation).
My father had a colonoscopy before and he doesn't even have CD and he found it extremely painful.

Heck, the sedation is the only positive part of the procedure!
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Posted 10/19/2010 5:58 PM (GMT -8)
I was sedated but awake and watching for my first complete colonoscopy. While I would have preferred to be completely out, there was little discomfort other than an occasional nudge and it was kind of cool to watch on the screen, even though I was drowsy.

Last November I had an unsedated flexible sigmoidoscopy and it was awful. I guess my sedation from the first colonoscopy was working better than I thought, even though I wasn't completely out.

I'm scheduled for a colonoscopy and upper endoscopy next week and it will be fine with me if I sleep through the whole thing. My last upper endoscopy I remember gagging a little as they started down my throat and then I dozed off. I'm almost dreading the prep more than the procedures.
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Posted 10/19/2010 8:30 PM (GMT -8)
no sedation?  screw that!  knock my *** out!
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RedSoxGirl85
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Posted 10/23/2010 5:06 PM (GMT -8)
Just came across this. Thank you for sharing first_time! Good call on your wife for making you have one done. Crohn's or no Crohn's it was still a very interesting story and I appreciate you sharing it!
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Posted 10/23/2010 5:30 PM (GMT -8)
I certainly don't take offense at the OP's description of his colonoscopy.

I remember the first colonoscopy I had. I was quite excited. I was actually going to be able to see my intestines that had been causing me problems for so many years. The last thing I remember is giving the doctor a good hard punch. Guess he figured for his own safety he'd better put me 'out' (I know it's not really out). When I apologized the next day, he told me he was thankful that it wasn't a kick :-)

Of course that was the time they discovered a stricture so small that they couldn't understand how anything got through it - I could tell them, with a great deal of pain!

Since then I've had a few more colonoscopies; but I guess because of scar tissue and adhesions, it's too painful - even with the sedation - so I haven't had one in years. I did have a virtual colonoscopy a couple of years ago though.
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Posted 10/23/2010 5:40 PM (GMT -8)
I have woken in the middle of scopes and begged to be put back under. Now I tell my doctor to "give me more than last time since I woke up then" I do think it probably makes a big difference if you have a normal colon or one with crohn's though, as to the pain factor.

I guess it's kinda like childbirth in a way. Some women opt for an epidural, some go it the natural way. It's a matter of pain tolerance. (I'll take the epidural when I get to that point!) I have to hand it to someone if they can endure something I require pain meds for. (Good job first time!) Me, if given the choice of pain or no pain, I'll take the drugs. I just don't see the point in having something uncomfortable done and having to remember it if I have a choice. I've had enough pain with this DD that I would rather be comfortable than feel ANY pain. Oh, and biopsies DO hurt. I woke in the middle of my GI doing a biopsy (in my rectum) and OUCH!! that hurt! I was semi-sedated and my eyes teared up pretty fast.

Maybe also, since a lot of us here have been put to sleep multiple times without problems, sedation isn't as scary. I've had 2 surgeries and a colonoscopy a just about every year for the past 13 years, so it doesn't bother me.
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Posted 10/23/2010 9:05 PM (GMT -8)
Honestly the only thing that offended me about the OP's post, was that he doesn't seem to have Crohn's. I have no problem with people sharing their scope experiences. I think people need to be understanding that we are all different, and may have different needs for this test. Beyond that share away! I think that's helpful.
However this is not a general health, routine colonoscopy board. I come here to be with those who have my condition, those who suspect they do, and their family members. Those are the people I'm interested in hearing experiences from. I'm sure there are many other places to post about general health prevention topics. For me it's insensitve and insulting to the members here to have to read about how a healthy person zipped through the test, and then got to go eat a great dinner (something a lot of us don't even get to do on a regular day with our guts). Even more insulting that a moderator here would call members immature and petty for being offended by something they felt was insensitive. I've come here for many years, don't think I will anymore. Frankly I'm questioning why this wasn't removed from the start, without him asking for it to be (and I see it still isn't). If it doesn't pretain to Crohn's disease, or a patient of Crohn's disease, why is it here? Seems to me he didn't mean to post this to a board of people who are suffering from a chronic illness. So, CrohnieToo, I am just as disappointed, I think moderators should do better then that. Imagine a new person coming here, very sick, and newly diagnosed. Or someone who just had a rough scope, with findings of sever disease? Do you think that's what they want to see? I know I wouldn't.
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Posted 10/24/2010 12:13 PM (GMT -8)
Jen, I'm sorry I offended you. But it doesn't change my mind. This person did NOT come here to brag or rub our sick noses in the results of his colonoscopy. He honestly thought he was sharing an experience that might be of interest to others.

And since I DO have Crohn's disease and DO prefer my scopes w/o sedation and KNOW there are other members who also have successfully done so and PREFER to do so I saw absolutely no reason for some of the responses he received.

As w/so much w/this DD it is an individual thing and we should all be able to undergo our scopes in whichever manner we choose w/o being criticized for our choice.

Jen, just think for a minute, do you begrudge a fellow member who can eat raw veggies because you can't??? Are you offended when they mention pigging out on some raw veggies w/o pain, the big D, etc.? I couldn't eat raw veggies for years. Now I can - sometimes - in moderation, for which I am ever so grateful as I crave raw veggies as some crave chocolate. I know I envy those who can eat raw veggies w/o paying the price, but I'm glad for them that they can. I just wish I could too.
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Posted 10/24/2010 2:25 PM (GMT -8)
I think you're missing the point though CrohnieToo. First timer does not have this disease. This person claims they did not know the nature of this forum. They didn't bother to read a few posts, or even see the name of the forum. That in and of itself is a bit insensitive, and I think they even realized that.

Had a crohn's patient came here and talked about a good scope they had, I wouldn't have batted an eye. I would have been happy for them, especially knowing of some of the rough ones I've had. But I already know "normal" people can have really good painless scopes. This isn't the place for non-Crohn's patients to share their routine test experiences. Even Nanners asked him if he had Crohn's or not. To me that's an obvious issue.

So it has nothing to do with begrudging someone for having a scope awake. Or someone who can eat raw veggies. Would you feel it's okay for someone with a normal digestive system to come here and talk about their wonderful dinner full of all the foods Crohn's patients can't eat? How about a miscarriage forum, with someone who got pregnant right away and had a healthy baby? Okay place to post that? You can be happy for them, but there is a right and wrong place to post things. Going to a board of people who have a serious illness is not it. I certainly hope in the future this poster will do a little research about where he's about to post.

Regardless, it's my opinion that it's also not the place for moderators to be calling members petty and immature. Frankly I think that's the kind of thing moderators should be looking out for.
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