I am afraid Zanne has this nailed.
Without going into great detail about myself I was there when the internet was born, pretty close, I created, ran and sold some of the first websites ever created, by hand back then. No website software to do it for me. No "website to create your own forum" websites existed back then. I am a computer/internet geek. I can tear any comp/os/program apart, rebuild it, repair it, or what have you. Disabled leaves you alot of time to study things.
I have worked for some of the biggest coporations in the world and the smallest, I have been self-employed and employed others.
So I can tell you first hand, placing a website of any kind on the internet, forum, commercial, personal or other requires little wo no work. Maintaining one is something different, but if you have a troop of dedicated volunteers who will maintain your website that helps.
I currently live in the US, a nation filled with some of the most desigusting poloticians in the world, talking sideways out of their mouths, enjoying the perks of their titles simpy because they stand on the backs of the little man, but can't almost every nation say just about the same thing these days.
It is soul crushing to know that your voice is actually the majority, but is not taken into account because those in power do not care, you are nothing but an ant to them to be ignored or squashed so they may continue their privleaged existence.
Where is this going, well imo there are paralels to this situation and the ones the entire world finds themselves in right now, this world is about to go revolutionary and already has in several nations, people are dying by the thousands every day for their rights and freedoms.
I do not know Peter, or any other folks who might have a financial ownership in this website, but I know the ones who truly run it, or did.
I know the admin post earlier in this thread is total nonsense. I searched every other forum and this is the only one I could find this kind of outrage about this, 9 others were let go, were they not active amoungst the members? Did no one know them, cause there is no word of any other mod being let go except Gail and Iv.
Alot of us believe in "The Bigger Picture", well I have news for everyone, each individual in this community IS "The Bigger Picture" every living being is, not this one forum, not one organization, not one community, it is each individual that makes "The Big Picture" possible.
There has been 0 credible explanation as to what has transpired. I do not care for posts which state owners have the right to do whatever they choose, fire who they want, hire, be silent, speak out, whatever.
As a community leader of any sort, if that is what you believe you are, then you have an obligation to the community first, if your only obigation is to the business end first, then you are a business man, not an activist or supporter of these forums.
Business should never come first in life ever!, People should always come first, but that seems toi have all changed over the the years, people care less, they blithley make decisions now not caring about the consequences, perhaps because now a days spanking is considered a crime.
Children who are raised wihtout understanding consequences to their actions will always make the worst decisions. A large portion of our current youth falls into that catagory. Some children were still raised right, others, well I have a feeling their parents personal lives and personal business might have just gotten in the way of their most imopratant role, protectint thier familys.
I think we might all forget, that protecting our families isnt just about money, prestige, honor.
It is about love, understanding, communication and empathy as well.
I have seen nothing like this from the admins involving this situation. it appears they are simply waiting to either delete this thread or hope it pass's quickly.
FYI I ran a extremley high bandwith website a few years back and turned the enitre site automated, I only had to visit about once a week just to check my stats, and I had aides watching it as well. It was no effort on my part and made great money.
SO for me, this is about what is right, not about what we will except, or be willing to live with.
I am truly sorry all, but I am not willing to live with this decision the way it currently stands, unless there is an open and fairly based discusion with a reasonable outcome soon, I will be leaving.
Yes, I know, this does not effect the admins, I'm sure one less patron here will not matter to them and soon enough ny name will be forgotten entirley on these forums.
Zanne: Please PM me anything you want, this whole thing has disgusted me to no end, I will not stay and watch people I love betrayed with no ryme or reason while the accusers hide behind "worded" shields.
I will miss everyone, someone really screwed this one up, there is still time to remedy it, but it appears the powers that be choose to sit back and do nothing. This is how the world is now, Darwin at it's finest, the weak perish, only the strong survive.
Well you strong survivors enjoy your reign at the top with the others. In the end, there can be only one right? Is that He-man or Highlander, either way, enjoy your climb to the top Peter, or whoever is responsible, nothing says success like your footprints on the backs of your friends and co-workers.
Do as you wish with me, fire me, delete me, delete this post, what has transpired is wrong and should be corrected, any decent person or company would consider revieweing past actions for mistakes, looking to improve on them and apologize if needed.
So I suppose this may be my last post here. I certainly hope not.
I wish everyone the best, all my love and support. Life is to short for this crap and to have to deal with people who hand you this kind of crap.
If I want to be abused I will go back to the hospital, I come here for my family and you Sir, or whomever, have just effectivley told me, that some of my greatest family members are not worth my respect or admiration by removing their titles, their titles are as much to do with them as just their individual posts.
You have come into my house, and stolen family from me, wether their ghosts survive or not is not the issue.
I understad neutrality in these issuses, because there is never enought inofrmation for one to make an informed fact based oppinion, however some of were there and are disgusted by the outcome.
There are other forums, there are other outlets. I do not return to a business or service model of any kind which wrongs me. This is what they want, you to lie down, go back to sleeep and do what they tell you, otherwise someone might actually have to make a decent decision in life, do some work or other thing they don't want to.
I am truly sorry if some of you may see this as a "over the top" response to this, but I assure you, if you came into my house and tried to treat my family this way, it would end badly for all parties.
Thus, this ends badly for me, I lose a home I have grown to love, a family I have grown to love, but I believe in solodarity, and I for one am taking a stand.
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" feel free to look up one of the greatest movie quotes of all time.
I will think of you all every day, I will continue to prey and be in your hearts, but I will not stay here and contiue to support anyone who makes these kind of decisions without first consulting his family.
This became more then just one persons "I own this forum and can do what I want" website long ago, it is a community website now, if you took it down, I would place one up the next day, but I would not have the audacity to claim I owned the community and int his case, the website is the community. Perhaps, Peter or whomever you should consider removing yoruself from these types of decisions and allowing some other form of mediators to handle whatever situation led to this.
It is never to late to make ammends. Everyone makes choices, you appear to have made yours, now lets see if you take the communities response into consideration?
Yup, strongly worded, but hey all they can do is take away my free speech, through deletion or other.
If this thread or post dissapears, hopefully the ones who saw it willt ake comfort in that my love for the community never died.
Goodbye my friends
darn, right after Gail posted I posted mine, didn't even know she had posted yet, obviously posted at the same time, Gail only confirms everything I wrote above.
I love you Gail, You saved my life. KNOW THAT! BELIEVE THAT! Yopu saved peoples lives from your home, without lifing a physical finger (short of typing), you saved lives. You are an angel.
Post Edited (Blue Velvyt) : 12/5/2011 9:52:31 AM (GMT-7)