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Floppington
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Posted 12/29/2007 12:05 AM (GMT -7)

Getting by - your rock cutting sounds really interesting. Hobbies are good to have....though I've let most of mine go for the past few months. I still read a lot. Used to draw and paint, write, play music...but I've lot interest in doing those things. I feel so tired most of the time. Most of my energy goes into school. I spend a lot of time acting happy so I can get through the days, so when I get home I usually fall apart. I'm upset a lot of the time now, and that makes me very tired. I'm usually in tears as I post something, it just happens. Sometimes it gets almost funny - typing away while crying. Oh well. Better to cry if you feel like it then hold it in. Joc - any hobbies that you have that you find relieve stress or help you feel good?

-Flop

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Posted 12/29/2007 7:51 AM (GMT -7)

Floppington,

Thanks for the reply.  I am a rock hound.  Have found some cool rocks that aren't suppose to be where I find them.  The glaciers came through here at one time and I guess it is actually a place where you can find anything.  Would like to find some gold and diamonds.  I have found agates though.  I like to slice the stones really thin so that the light will shine through them.  Also I am into fossils.  We have a lot of them too.  But my absolute favorites are the agates and stones with a lot of color.

I hope that you have a wonderful day.

Joc, I hope that you are having a good day.  I read some of your posts on other threads.  You have very good advise for other people.  I find that it helps me when I feel that I am helping somebody else.  Keep up the good work.

hugs,

getting by

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Posted 12/29/2007 1:54 PM (GMT -7)

Getting By,

Your hobby sounds really interesting. I have alot of jewellery that is hand made from Canadian artists as I am in Canada. I got some black pearl earrings and bracelet for Christmas that I adore. I also got a beautiful jade bracelet from a trip to England - The British Museum is showcasing The Terra Cotta Warriors. I have a stained glass project that I still have not finished - I did it once, but I hated how it turned out so I ripped off the paint. I bought thekit at Michaels. Maybe you can make me feel inspired.

I do not have fibromyalgia so I am alot more mobile than people who have the illlness. ALthough the depression and anxiety kill me sometimes, I am a pretty active person and my blood tests indicate that I am pretty healthy. I have poor vision, but my hearing is quite good and I am pretty fit. When they do a disability report they look at all these factors and make the decision based on the person's quality of life and it seems like I am still better off than alot of people and capable of doing most things for myself. Also since they developed all of these drugs for depression and anxiety, most people just get a prescription and then sent back to work as it has been proven that alot of people take these prescriptions and are relieved of their symptoms and quite capable of working. That was how the decision was made and so it is...

I know people with MS that still work - our system is really picky and very few people get disability these days.

I am glad you got an MD. I know a few fibromyalgia cases and they cannot work.

JOC

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Posted 12/29/2007 2:41 PM (GMT -7)

Hi JOC,

The jewelry sounds beautiful.  I love pearls, especially black.  And I also love jade.  I have a square piece of jade about 4x4 inches that my step daughter gave me, I want to make something out of it but I also love it the way that it is.  So I am  not sure what to do with it.  I will probably leave it the way it is.  I buy a lot of jade beads from a jewelry supply store.  Sometimes they are dyed in different colors.  I got some white jade beads one time and made jewelry with that and dark red garnet chips.  Also some black onyx (small beads) and small silver beads.  The colors looked really pretty together. 

I like working with black a lot.  A lot of my paintings have a lot of black in them.  I like to paint wolves and other wildlife.  I do mostly wolves though.  For some reason with a black background, the pictures remind me of something safe.  I guess because it looks like the wolf is watching you but he is safe because it looks dark.  I hope that makes sense.  It feels like I would feel looking out from where nobody would want to go.  Some people think the black is depressing, but to me it makes all the other colors brighter.

What part of Canada are you from?  My sister use to live between Saulte Ste Marie Michigan and Soo Canada on an island called Sugar Island.  I just wondered if you ever heard of it.  It was beautiful up there.  Actually I was once on an island called duck island that was on Sugar Island.  So I was on an island on the island. LOL.

The stained glass sounds pretty.  I always wanted to try that but was afraid I couldn't do it.  But I guess I will never know until I try.  I have a friend that works with pudding stones.  He makes slices and then shapes them into butterfly wings.  Then he sodders copper around them.  They resemble stained glass.  I found a piece of pudding stone that has so many little stones in it, that with the shape of it it looks like a piece of fruit cake.  I think it is so pretty.  I collect so many stones that I had to start a pile in the yard because I ran out of room.

It is too bad they rank people in a catagory of if they take meds for depression that they are okay.  Sometimes it takes years for a person to find the right medication that works for them.  Besides you can always still get depressed even when the medication works.  I take so many meds with the depression and the fibro that I am like a walking pharmacy.  All it does is make me functional, but not to the point that I am functional in society.  I can handle it on good days, but I can't handle it all the time.  Being around people that is.  I have to carry my xanax around because it doesn't take much to make me anxious.  Especially in stores.  I am better than I was though.

I hope that you have a wonderful day, and I am glad that you wrote back.  I enjoy reading your posts.

Take care,

Keep in touch

hugs,

Karen

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Posted 12/29/2007 3:16 PM (GMT -7)
smurf  Karen,

 

Thanks for writing so promptly. I am just doing my laundry and listening to my Ipod while I keep an eye on the computer. I live in the GTA - The Greater Toronto Area so I am far from "The Soo." There are alot of interesting islands here and in the world actually. I love tropical places - in 2005 I was in Kauai, Hawaii.  I have never heard of Sugar Island and have never been to Sault Ste Marie. Where are you in Michigan?

There black pearls look like the ones you get in the South Pacific and they are really lovely. The Jade bracelet is so soft and warm - it is the lightest colour I have seen for Jade. I also have a heart pendant that I got long ago to go with it. I wish I had more time to cultivate a hobby, but I am so pooped after work and the gym that alot lies unfinished in that department. Do you ever sell your work?

I am hoping to finish the stained glass lampshade as it is for my room. I got a painting that a friend painted of me when I was a little girl. She never told me about this painting, but then brought it over and said that I was the "muse" on Christmas Eve. It is one of my back in my galoshes with my skinny little girl ankles facing the sea - really nice. She used to be a nurse, but now she paints and she is rather talented - well I am biased as she has painted me!

I wear alot of black and have onyx jewellery. It is a sophisticated and colour of depth in my opinion. It does not always mean "moroseness." My astrological sign is Scorpio and we are into black. I like the colour.

I am feeling abit better since I started on the Effexor - alot more motivated. I did feel some anxiety getting up for work the other day and will probably feel some on Monday when I rise. However once I was up I was fine. I have a prescription for clonanzepam, but once I have enough Effexor I find that I do not need it as much.

 

Things are changing so much in my life and I find that hard. We will see how things go this year.

 

Take Care,

 

Joc

 

     

 

 

 

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Posted 12/29/2007 3:44 PM (GMT -7)
I am on the cusp of scorpio and sagitarius. I find most of my characteristics are scorpio. I don't know the time of day that I was born so I am not for sure. But I think I am more scorpio.
Your jewelry sounds so interesting because there seems to be a story behind it. I have never had real black pearls, though I have small ones. Mostly I have worked with fresh water pearls. My sister in law gave me a pair of earrings that she made out of coin pearls. They are pretty cool.

I am close to the computer too today. I am baking a pork roast with carrots, potatoes and cauliflower and it smells so good in here. I was listening to music earlier on the computer. One of our local stations is on there. Softer rock, but I like it all. I don't have an ipod. Never have, I am just getting use to my cell phone. I didn't even realize that I had to keep it on to receive a call. Guess I should have read the book some more. I am learning but I am slow with it.

I live in the lower penninsula of Michigan but in the northern part. We get some rough winters here. South of us barely gets any snow. But I just happen to be living where it does. Yuck. I like to cross country ski when I am feeling good. So far my health and the weather hasn't been good enough at the same time.LOL. But when I get a lot of skiing in I seem to tolerate the weather better.

You do sound like you are feeling better. Did you get to the gym? I like to wear a lot of black. I use to work out with light weights but since I have had fibro, I hardly do anything. I wish I could do aerobics and muscle toning again, I miss my figure. Is the clonansaplam (sp) any thing like xanax? That is alprazolam. I take that for anxiety. It relaxes me pretty good.

I will check my food to make sure I am not burning anything, I can really smell everything.

Until next time

hugs,

Karen
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Posted 12/29/2007 4:15 PM (GMT -7)

Karen,

Dinner smells great - I am coming over LOL.... I was a vegitarian for 3 years, but have gone back to eating meat. I was also really thin, but have gained back the weight. I am still fit. I know what you mean about the "I  miss my figure " part, that is how I feel. I have these size 0 pants in my closet from a few years ago and I cannot even get them on - it is too funny to think I was that small in 2003, 2004 and 2005.... Also for half of 2006... I keep them thinking I will lose it and maybe I will, but not at the moment. I need the pills as my breakdown scared me. I cannot afford to collapse and lose my job. It really stinks, but that is the reality. I know they cannot fire me (some may wish to try - always those people) and I cannot afford to leave. Anyway...

I have never heard of coin pearls. Yes, I have quite a collection of hand made jewellery and also inherited stuff. I have some diamonds and pearls. I love costume - I have a nineteen twenties marquisite (spelling???) ring that I inherited - it is quite precious. I also have a pair of earings I bought in Hawaii - I wear them alot - the stone looks like an uncut diamond, but it is something else from the volcanoes and really pretty. A long time ago, I worked for someone who imported jewellery from India and Indonesia so I have some of that too.

I was born right in the middle of Scorpio so I am a Scorpio with an Aries moon. Quite a combination. I was born in the year of the "Dog."

I have two IPOD shuffles as I ran out of room on the first one and then I got a gift card and ordered the new "clip" one. My mother got the IPOD that has a screen on it for Christmas - she can watch movies on it if she wants too.

Clonanzepam is a mild sedative that is used for anxiety and also seizures. It makes you sleepy and calms you right down. I find it handy sometimes. However the Effexor treats both depression and the anxiety. It also makes you sleepy and more relaxed.

I lost my cell phone and had to have it replaced. I was panicked about it as I left it somewhere and it never turned up. Three weeks later I received a call from some guy who said he had it and I could get it from him. I tolf him not to bother as I replaced the phone already...

Yes I was at the gym this afternoon and I had a good workout. I will go in the morning too. Do you find it painful to workout with the fibro?

Until Next time,

JOC

  

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Posted 12/29/2007 4:20 PM (GMT -7)

Flop,

I am sorry to hear that you are so sad - hope we make you feel better. I was crying alot at work before I took my leave - it was embarrassing as I would start to cry while talking to customers etc. This went on for awhile, but now I am back on those little pills so that should be under control. I hope you are ok....

May I ask what you are studying?

I do not have alot of time for hobbies - just the gym, work, the odd book and my IPOD at the moment. But one day I will travel, paint stained glass and knit like an expert when I have the luxury of time. I would also like to further my education.

Hope you are ok - write anytime.. Getting By's hobbies sound great to me too.

JOC

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Posted 12/29/2007 4:47 PM (GMT -7)

Hey Flop,

I thought I had lost your post, I didn't go back far enough and thought it was on the first page, then couldn't find it there.  I knew that you were here somewhere. 

As for crying, I find it to be a wonderful release.  Sometimes, we have to just let it all out.  That is so healthy and you feel so much better afterward.  Just do it where you feel safe and just let it go.  I have done that many times.  I want you to feel better.  If you need to talk more, I am here and so is JOC.  We are here to listen to what ever you want to talk about.  Please remember that.

I want to tell you guys that I really enjoy talking to both of you.  JOC, it sounds like you have done some traveling.  Can you tell me more about Hawaii sometime, tonight if you want to.  The coin pearls are round but flat.  I don't know if they are fresh or sal***er pearls.  My sister in law made them.  She makes more vintage looking stuff.  I am more natural.  She is starting to get into the natural rustic look now.  She sent me a necklace with silver charm type peices and labradorite (which I think comes from canada).  There is a peice of blue opal on it too.

I will close here for a while, I will be checking back in if anybody wants to write more.

hugs to both of you,

getting by

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Posted 12/30/2007 11:44 AM (GMT -7)

Hello,

Well I could not sleep at all last night and I started to feel anxious about writing so much on the forum - have I said to much type thing???

Anyway I felt rotten so I took clonanzepam and slept in til 1pm. Here I am..... Does anyone else every get up in the night and feel hungry? That is something that I notice?

I enjoy writing both flop, getting by and some of the others who I have not heard from. I travelled alot as a kid and not as much as an adult. Just to Hawaii a few years back.

Does anyone have a pet? I want one, but do not have one.

2007 draws to a close

JOC    

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Posted 12/30/2007 12:43 PM (GMT -7)
I have two dogs. A german shepard and a mix breed, pit bull/australian cattledog mix. They are both spayed girls. I love them dearly. They are so comforting and give you that unconditional love. I wouldn't part with them for anything. Though it ties me down, can't go anywhere for any length of time. My german shepard has a bad case of seperation anxiety. They (the vet) wants me to give her 100 mg elavil twice a day but I don't. Sometimes I give her 1/2 of one if we are going somewhere without her. She also has a systemic yeast infection. She chews and scratches all of the time. I got some enzymes and probiotics to battle that. It has helped a lot but not completely. I have had shepards before and they always seem to have skin issues.

Don't worry about opening up too much, anything you say here is cool. I think it is because we don't actually know each other personally. I find it a lot easier to talk that way. So it is a good release for me. I can't talk to people I know about the things I talk about on here. Sometimes I think "Oh my everybody is reading this", but oh well, they don't really know me so what does it matter. You can only imagine what they even look like. In fact at first I though you were a guy because of your name "JOC", and then when you talked about jewelry I knew you weren't. Though I kind of suspected it before that. I just got a dejavu feeling, do you ever have that? I use to get them a lot when I was younger, also had premenition (sp) dreams. I don't know why I don't anymore. Maybe I am not as in tuned to myself like I use to be, though I would think that I was moreso.

I will end here for now, got some cleaning I have to do, but I will be back.

hugs,

getting by
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Posted 12/30/2007 1:04 PM (GMT -7)

Getting By,

Do you take your dogs for long walks in the woods? I love walking dogs - I know people who has cocker spaniels. They are so cute. I would really like a dog, but I cannot have one where I live. I agree with you, you need to be home with your dogs - I dislike people that leave them alone all day.

No I am female. I think I was feeling abit paranoid. But today I feel better. I am trying to do some exercise at home as I slept in and do not think I feel like going to the gym. I have to walk or take the bus and it feels cumbersome today.

I find this to be a good release too. I just have to be careful about what I say as sometimes I forget that "everybody" has access to this - hey everybody probably does not care, but in case they do.

JOC 

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Posted 12/30/2007 2:14 PM (GMT -7)
Hi Joc,

I first thought you were male when i seen your name, lol. I'm Gillian, pleased to meet you, i am fairly new here i joined in Nov, i just look forward so much to coming online every day and reading the posts, some days i don't reply and others i do. I have 2 children so it's not so easy getting the time, i am glad you have found this forum it has so many caring people, take care, Gillian

PS. Not that being male or female makes any difference!!! lol.

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Posted 12/30/2007 3:09 PM (GMT -7)

Hi Gillian,

I know what you mean - I joined December 24th as I was feeling so depressed about the holidays and I have really enjoyed this forum. So far I have been following this thread as I am getting to know some others and their illnesses. I guess I should read some other threads and jump in there or not..

Nice to meet you. How old are your kids? U do not have to respond if u find that intrusive ok? I do not have kids, but am busy with work and the gym. Do you have any pets?

No I am female - that is too funny. Write when you feel like it and I hope you have a Happy New Year...

JOC  

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Posted 12/30/2007 3:43 PM (GMT -7)
New years is coming up so fast. It seems like since halloween, the time just flew. I just don't know where it went.

I think it is good to be able to say things that you normally wouldn't feel comfortable with otherwise. And if everybody reads, so what. Often others think it is interesting. I have met a lot of people here that way and everybody can use the input.

Gillian, I wondered where you went. I haven't talked to you much lately. I hope that Embers is doing okay. I haven't heard from her in a few days. Unless I missed something.

I do like to walk in the woods with my dogs and they love it. I just worry about the darn snowmobiles all of the time. Our property borders the state land with all of the snowmobile trails. But sometimes they don't come really close. Sometimes I like their tracks because they pack them down and I can walk (or ski) on them easier than in the deep snow.

Hugs to you guys
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Posted 12/30/2007 4:43 PM (GMT -7)

Hi Getting BY and Everybody,

I know New Years is coming up and it seems like the year has flown by---- I am in the midst of another depression - last year I was feeling better - the cycle...

Your property sounds neat - do you have alot of snow?

I was just re-reading the threads and also the rules. I was forgetting about them - I hope that I have not said too much etc. I should apologize for making reference to the media stars - if I had been thinking properly I would have written that the media in general often promotes a body image that is hard for alot of women to achieve and as it is everywhere alot of women are saturated with that image and it does contribute to self esteem and depression. Individual stars are not to blame, but some are seen so frequently and choosing not to watch  - therefore not spending the money is a way of ignoring things that make us feel bad or inadequate. If I made anyone feel bad - so sorry. My friend has a moviemaker on his computer so he gets movies that way - you have to pay a monthly fee though...

Gotta remember those rulz....

Getting BY - I thought it was ironic that your dog needs elavil too.... Do animals imitate our behavior do you think?

JOC   

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Posted 12/30/2007 7:12 PM (GMT -7)

Wow, you don't log on for a day and you miss so much!

JOC - we're not that far apart geographically - I'm in Ottawa for school, but am home in the country until after new years for the holidays. 

I wish I could say I've been enjoying the time off from school, but I've been feeling so stressed and sad that I haven't, and I think getting back to school will be good for me. My major is music, I play piano, but I'm not taking performace, which is why I haven't played much recently. Before I decided to go back to school I was working through the Royal Conservatory and aiming to get my ARCT (teachers) certificate, but I found that I couldn't take on full time University along with the time required to fulfill the conservatory requirements.

I wanted to ask you (JOC) if you ever worry about taking the clonazepam? I use it, too, when I'm very anxious and can't sleep, but I find it makes me feel groggy in the morning. And I don't like to use it unless I really need to. When I was prescribed it I was told it was not addictive, but I don't want to become dependent on it.

No pets for me in the city, but my family has a dog and two cats. The dog is great, really funny, quite a personality. I miss having the animals around when I can't get home for long periods of time. Getting By - you're right that animals tie you down, but you're also right about the unconditional love. Whenever I come home the dog is so happy to see me. He gets all worked up, as if I were the most important person in the world. I sometimes wish people were that pleased to see me.

New Years Eve tomorrow....I've been dreading it, since everyone in my family has different plans and no one else will be home. I had no plans as no one asked me to do anything, so no party or dinner for me. I don't have many good friends. I really did not want to spend the night alone, since I've been feeling so low and anxious, so I finally asked a friend who said he also wasn't doing anything if he'd come and just watch movies with me. Trouble is I now feel horribly guilty about it, and am thinking of telling him not to bother, because I'm sure he could be going out and having fun if he wanted to. I KNOW he got invited to a gathering of mutual "friends" (which I wasn't invited to) I think he feels sorry for me and is just being nice, which makes me feel worse. I don't know how to handle situations like this...I don't want to be by myself, feeling miserable, but I also don't want to ruin anyone elses night, or be a burden on them. I feel weak when I ask for help, especially if it's asking someone to talk, or to come spend time with me, because it just reminds me that I don't have people outside of my family who care about me and who would reach out to me on their own. Sure, I can call people, but it feels like it's always me making the effort. I feel like I get forgotten or simply left out most of the time. And then I feel hurt. I love my family, and they care about me, but I would like to have a circle of friends that I could spend time with. I think it's because I relate badly to people. I keep thinking of things I could do to change the way I come across and I have tried so hard since starting school to get out there and meet people and talk to new people, but it feels like I keep hitting walls. Am I choosing the wrong people to strike up conversations with, or...well, maybe it IS me. It's happened all my life. I do not make friends easily. What should I do tomorrow? Should I tell him not to come? I'm getting more and more worried about it as I think about it now. Sorry this got so long.

-Flop

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Posted 12/30/2007 8:41 PM (GMT -7)

If I were you and I wanted him to still come by I would let him know and at the same time tell him he isn't obligated.  How do you know that he doesn't want to be with you, he might.  I think that you are underestimating yourself.  You don't always have to look for the circle sometimes you are the circle and just don't realize it.  I guess I don't socialize enough.  Tonight I went to a friends house it has probably been three or four months since I have been there.  They always ask me and I never go.  But I think that it did me good to get out.  Though it was actually kind of hard for me.  Though I think people get use to me not going and think I am doing other things when I am really just at home.  But I like it that way.  Gives me more time with you guys to.  I am comfortable with that.

Sometimes I think we are alone a lot because that is what we choose, or else we would be out there with other people.  We just aren't that way at the time.  Sometimes we wish others would invite us in, but they become use to us making that decision and they don't think to invite us.  They figure if we wanted to be there that we would be there.  Does this make any sense?

Hugs.

getting by

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Posted 12/30/2007 9:51 PM (GMT -7)
That does make sense.... I think that I assume everyone else is leading a fantastically busy social life, with friends all around. Maybe that's one of the myths of life in your 20's - that everything is supposed to be fun, friends, a great job and great romances.
I know in the past I have turned down invitations, and it can become a habit. It's so much easier and safer to stay home-I find it is often a struggle to be in social situations. I would love more friends, but I feel so shy around groups of people that I think I come off as being snooty. I've been trying to change this for the past year. I need to stop assuming that people think the worst of me and start thinking that if they ask, they must like me at least a little bit. Reading this back to myself I really sound like I need to just relax and not take it all so hard.
I'm a Cancer, so maybe I'm just naturally shy and touchy. But then again I don't believe in any of that....fun to read though.

-Flop
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Posted 12/31/2007 3:48 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Everyone,

Joc, I have two sons one is 5 and the other will be 3 in Feb, they are such a handful, i am on my own with them, my husband left me in March this year. So here's hoping we all have a better new year!!

Karen, How are you? i'm doing ok, i was wondering about Embers too, i hope all is well with her. I'm glad your christmas went well.

Well the last day of the year! I always feel strange on Hogmany. Have any off you got plans for the bells? I will be at my parents with the boys, probably be in bed by 12:15, lol. We will be having dinner at my sisters on the 1st.

Hope you all have a wonderful, healthy and peaceful new year, Gillian x
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Posted 12/31/2007 6:37 AM (GMT -7)
Hi you all,

Floppington, I had two cousins they were both really pretty with long black hair.  Quite a few years ago somebody said two me that they were both stuck up because they would go to parties and only talk to eachother, why didn't they talk to anybody else.  These girls were beautiful but stuck up.  The truth was they were both too shy to talk to anyone.  So it is hard to tell what others think of us.  I have a sister that thinks she is ugly.  I think that she is pretty.  It sometimes has a lot to do with what we think of ourselves.  Just because we might not like what we see in the mirror doesn't mean other's see  us the same, or that others don't like us.  I hate pictures of myself, where others like them.  I guess that is another case of me seeing myself a certain way.  I know from the past that you can't assume what other people are thinking because we always assume the worst.  So lighten up on yourself, and don't assume.  You never know when you are way off base.  I am sure that others would love to be around you, and sometimes others are jealous too and we don't know it.

JOC, I hope that you are feeling better today.  It is New Years Eve (again).  The time goes by so fast.  I don't think that you have broken any rules on the forum.  I know what you mean about the media portraying women especially in a certain way and we feel like we should be like that.  But on television and on magazines these women are so made up.  They usually look nothing like that.  They put so much makeup on them and air brush their flaws in the magazines.  It is all for show.  So you can't compare yourself to any of this and have it come out fairly.  The women my age are now all getting face lifts and boob jobs.  I tell you they look like their faces are frozen to smile.  It looks stupid in my opinion.  Some of them end up really messed up.

Gillian, My granddaughter will be three in February, on the 13th.  We were wishing for the fourteenth but she was a day earlier.  They are so cute at that age.  How are you doing?  Are you going to see your ex on New years eve.  You are so cool and open minded, I find that it is good for your kids at this point.  I know that you have had it rough, but you came out of everything just fine and I am proud of you.  Don't ever cut yourself short, because you are doing good actually.  I think of you often.  Hoping if I ever run into a situation like you have that I could handle it well like you did. 

I hope that you all have a wonderful and joyous New years.  I myself will stay home.  I don't like to go out on New years eve.  I worry about other drivers, though a lot of them get a designated driver these days which is good.  Also the cops will take people home if they call them.  I think, our county is kind of broke, so it is hard to say, but I am sure there are some who still do it just to keep the roads safe.  You are a wonderful bunch of ladies and I wish for all of you peacefulness in ringing in the new year.  And a happy and healthy year to come.

Luv and Hugs,

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Posted 12/31/2007 7:33 AM (GMT -7)
Awe, thank you Karen, you are such a lovely caring person, i'm so glad there are people like you here.

My boy was due on the 10th of Feb but didnt appear until the 16th, in Scotland we say " A LAZY LADDIE" lol,. The other one will be 6 on the 18th of March, and someone told me that when one will be 18 the other will be 21 all of four weeks apart lol!! We will have to have a joint celebration.

Well i got all my housework done this morning and most off the ironing so thats me ready to say Cheerio to 2007!

I will maybe be back on again before next year! lol Gillian x
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Posted 12/31/2007 9:28 AM (GMT -7)
Hi there Gillian,
Hasn't this year gone by fast? I just can't believe it will be 2008 tomorrow.

I want to wish you a happy and healthy year filled with many good things.

Please continue to write, I really enjoy reading your posts. Hopefully we will hear from Embers soon. Once she gets settled in. I know that she wanted to go home so bad. And I hope that is what she was able to do.

I myself wont be doing anything special tonight. Maybe get a bottle of champagne and have a toast for starting out our new year with our new marraige.

I wish for you a wonderful day,
I will be back to write more. Have to go into town and fill a prescription.

Luv and hugs,
Karen
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Posted 12/31/2007 11:10 AM (GMT -7)
Thanks Karen,

I was reading the post to you from Shy, i think Shy is so right, you would make a great Mod!! I hope you take her up on the offer, well done you! xx
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Posted 12/31/2007 4:53 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks Gillian.

I just don't know how much responsibility comes with it. I will find out and if I think I can do it, I will try. I just like being here. Just so you know I wont be going anywhere tonight so if somebody needs to talk, I will be here.

It seems to have warmed up a bit. It was really cold earlier. I really need to get outside go for a walk. A friend of mine and I were talking earlier about going sometime this week. She makes birchbark frames for pictures and I told her I have a lot of birchbark in my woods. We will have to climb up a hill some to get to it though. I have always wondered how she takes it off of the trees. Now I will know.

I hope you have a wonderful evening.

hugs,

Karen
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