Therapies you have tried
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DBT dialectical behavior therapy - 0.0%
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CBT cognitive behavioral therapy - 100.0%
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CDOI client directed - 0.0%

 
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Trying to Understand
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   Posted 10/24/2010 10:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Anyone heard of CDOI? Client directed xx xx.
Supposed to be very successful, and not as lengthy. Around since the 90's.
Check this first link if curious...note the comment about how many fewer sessions/revenue are needed. And huge grants from a couple states.

http://www.talkingcure.com/uploadedFiles/CDOI_Fact_Sheet.pdf
www.talkingcure.com
www.whatsrightwithyou.com
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   Posted 10/25/2010 12:06 AM (GMT -6)   
client centred is good. DBT, extremely good, and in use for people with
severe borderline personality disorder, borderline personality disorder and other personality disorders. ie, schizo-affective disorder, and those with borderline and dependent traits in there personality.

cbt, not a fan. behaviourist white board algerbra!!! it helps others though. very dated, and still used as an adjunct for trainee psychologists!!! as you can see i do not like cbt.

ps, sorry for dissing it strongly, too many people were doing my head in with it, wereas my head needed assistance-and less of the confusion of cbt. i know it works for others. just my personal opinion. jamie.
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   Posted 10/25/2010 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Know that people have their own experiences and what works for one might not necessarily work for another. I myself had good experiences with CBT and it has helped me a lot. But that doesn't mean it is right for everybody, we all have different levels of problems and dxs.

I hope that you find what works for you. Work with your doctor or counselor.

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Trying to Understand
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   Posted 10/25/2010 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Siobhan-
Thank you for your input. You're right to point out that you need specific therapy to address the psycho-sexual issues you face. Sorry you haven't found that. Don't know what the complication in diagnosing you is, they always seem to be quick with the label.

Glad to hear that CBT worked for you, Getting by. Yes, I agree that we all have different levels of problems to work on.

Hope others will post on their experiences with therapy.
I had one good experience with CBT, liked it when the therapist would say something like "do you always attribute the lowest of motives to things people do?" Well, didn't care for that at the time, but I asked for it. Later on, realized that she was entirely right about that.
Another time, "I used to worry that my son would turn out like his father if he went to live with him, then I realized that he already was just like him". Another truism for me.
Sandy
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awty
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   Posted 10/25/2010 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
T2U - I have tried therapy, three times, first, I am not sure what you would call it, it was for ED issue that lasted 14 yrs, I never gave up the ED for another eight yrs, and I did that myself without any help. Was in that therapy for a yr and a half, but never talked about the real issues there, more food orientated.

Second was three sessions at hosp to try and get a diagnoses, not successful, as I couldn't express myself with words, so they thought nothing was wrong.

Third was six sessions, after phoning and telling them, I cant talk about the big stuff, could they cope with that, they said they could. I made it very clear, that I will stop talking, if I am backed into a corner, and someone is getting too close, they assurred me they could cope with that - well guess what happened, they couldn't cope with that.

So, me, I have given up trying, and probably never will again, has too much work to get my barriers down, and then, pull right back when someone close. Dumb thing is though, if they can just hang in there at that stage, they will have a brake through, and what they hear will blow thier minds!

I applaude anyone that can do the therapy thing though, any kind, as long as it is helping them at the time

Trying to Understand
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   Posted 10/25/2010 1:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hm, sort of how I feel.
Those "truisms", well my initial response was anger and denial. Only later did it hit me. Wonder if I gave up too fast, but then again, going to therapy for years, and getting occasional morsels of enlightenment is ridiculous.
Some have said to me, why would they want you to get better, they would be out of a job. They have to keep you coming back. Good point.
Regarding your ED, have watched this problem on "Intervention" and find it so mystifying that twins, raised together, can have/have not gotten into the ED problem. Congratulations in moving beyond this, was difficult I'm sure. How do you cope with your "issues" now?
Just heard of this CDOI and its great success and most interestingly, the decrease in time needed for it. Not widespread use, maybe because it IS so successful.
Sandy
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awty
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   Posted 10/25/2010 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm, the ED not an issue at all, been 10yrs free from it, and all it took, was working with at risk teens, and simply deciding, I didn't want them ever to copy what I had been doing, so I had to stop for thier sake. (I was unable to stop for my sake, but for them I could). A few relapses the first two yrs, but never as low as I could go.

The rest, I sort of have tried to get over as much as I can, that which I can't, I allow it there, and try to live the best life I possibly can inspite of it.

I am pretty determined, and fight really hard, it's tough doing it on your own though, none of my work mates know anything, and very few friends. I don't recommend my way, it can be awfully lonely, and makes tough days that much harder.

awty
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   Posted 10/25/2010 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
And, I am sorta pissed, that so much damage was done, and yet I still have to pay, nothing is free, and counselling is very expensive, up to $150 an hour. Barriers will never be down in an hour, geepers, imagine how much that would cost over a yr.

Those that have free help at hand, I really recommend you to take it, I wish I had when I was in state care, but at that stage, I couldn't remember everything

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   Posted 10/25/2010 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Awty, Have you tried Art therapy? Or another alternative therapy (art, music, movement, dance, pet [dog, horse, etc])? I know that helped me. You maybe talk for 5 minutes in the first sessions & very slowly progress into talking more over weeks or months.

Sandy, I found client directed therapy to be useless but maybe it would help you. I figure: if I knew how to help myself what do I need to be paying a counselor for? I never really knew what to talk about. Sometimes we'd just end up sitting in silence for 10-20 minutes while I tried to figure out what I needed to address. What a mess! Maybe if you know exactly what you need to do & how to get out of your situation, but just can't face it on your own without professional help, I think that would be a good therapy. Good luck!
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