Why do people make fun of Mental Health Disorders ?

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stkitt
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   Posted 11/2/2010 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All,
 
I received this by email today from my SIL ~  sweet huh ?  Yup,  I feel bad and how I wish I could do more to advocate for Mental Health.
 
This coming week is National Mental Health 
Care week.

You can do your part by remembering
  to contact at least one unstable person  
to show you care.
Well...... my job is done. Your turn!


Please send an encouraging message to a disturbed friend. Just as I've done. I don't care if you lick windows or take the special bus.... you hang in there sunshine, you're special... 


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   Posted 11/2/2010 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kitt,

I wouldn't take it personally. I don't think she meant anything by it, but it does go to show that sometimes others don't think about our feelings. And I think that is sad. Please try not to take it personal. I am sure she didn't mean to make you feel bad. She just obviously doesn't understand what we go through.

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   Posted 11/2/2010 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
NO. NO. NO.   nono   nono   nono    VERY INVALIDATING, LACKS
 
ANY     skull skull skull    FORM OF COMPASSION AND
 
 
 UNDERSTANDING. mad mad mad mad
 
 
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE NEED THOROUGH AND SOUND
 
EDUCATION REGARDING MENTAL ILLNESS!!!!!!!!!!
 
DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT!!!!!!!
 
IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!! JAMIE nono nono nono nono nono nono nono
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   Posted 11/2/2010 5:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Because all mental health issues seem to have been lumped into one category by society - something akin to insanity. (which of course is wrong, and could not be farther from the truth). 
 
One just has to look at the terminology used to describe people with mental health issues to see what we're up against:  unstable, loonie, crazy, off your rocker, bats in the belfry, psychotic, two bricks short of a load, ad nauseum. 
 
That they segregate mental health from physical health in insurance coverage does not make me feel any better about how I am perceived.  You have one path to get medical coverage, and an entirely different organization in which to get mental health coverage.
 
I will be bluntly honest when I say I would never tell any employer I had depression.  I'm almost certain they would consider me a loon and incapable of doing the work, and I am sure my days would be numbered.
 
In the 1972 election Tom Eagleton was dropped as a VP candidate because it surfaced that he had mental health issues.  (There were other issues, but the main reason McGovern dropped him was because Eagleton had gotten shock therapy, had manic depressive episodes, and apparently suicidal thoughts).
 
Back then, I thought that was an outrage.  He had been a senator for years, and apparently a good enough one to be considered as a VP candidate, despite his mental illness.
 
Despite my depression, I am capable of plenty of rational thought - more rational thought than many people who don't have depression.  I don't consider anyone on this site to be "mental", no matter what their problems.  I see so much love, compassion, and intelligence about the world flow through this site.
 
It is such a shame society does not give people with mental issues the same due as those with physical problems.  Whether it's because not enough research has been done, not enough is known about mental issues, or mental issues take a back seat to the easier cured physical problems - I don't know, but it disheartens me to see people coming in here day after day with basically the same story - no one cares, they don't know where to go for help, and they aren't taken seriously by those in their life.
 
Bah, see, now I've fallen from the anxiety I had earlier.  Fallen a bit too far. 
 
   
 
 

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   Posted 11/2/2010 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
And oh, yeah - I think that post is pathetic.  I find nothing funny about it.
 
Your SIL can kiss something else, and I'm sure you know what I mean.

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   Posted 11/2/2010 5:49 PM (GMT -6)   
And yeah, one more thing, I agree with Jamie.  Unfeeling, uncaring, callous, heartless IDIOTS!
 
 
nono   nono nono nono nono nono nono nono nono nono nono

stkitt
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   Posted 11/2/2010 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks All and Karen I suspect your right.  This was sent to many people on my SIL's email list and it is just in dang poor taste and she should know better as she works in health care.  
 
I continue to believe  as people get more informed and educated about mental illness they realize those of us  with a  mental illness dx are not stupid or violent or looking for attention.  They may finally realize that no disorder is a joke or in the least bit funny to the people with the disorder. 
 
I never really shared with my co-workers or peers my issues or that I was on medications and saw a therapist.  I had a few friends that knew.  I know I was always fearful of the stigmata that still sticks with mental health disorders.
 
However now I am much more  able to admit to others that I am having issues.  I have lost friends that did not want to be around someone who is sad so I still put on a smile when I may not feel happy but perhaps the smile does make me feel better. I have a good time but I am still oversensitive and keep on working at just letting go of nasty comments.  I know only I can control my emotions.
 
Hugs to each and everyone of you!
 
Kitt
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   Posted 11/2/2010 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
One of our greatest presidents (and probably much more) dealt with mental health issues and to give them this kind of disrespect is unpatriotic. I hope you see the parallel that I am not articulating well. It was inconsiderate and uncompassionate of her to email this. I truely do hope she was just joking around and did not mean to be offensive.
I would definately argue that clearly she does not understand suffering, let alone the level of suffering you have endured.
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   Posted 11/2/2010 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Unless your sil is a sarcastic *****, I think she meant you no harm. Trying to acknowledge the need for Mental Health week, that she would like to be supportive but doesn't know how.
I didn't read your sentence first, and thought you were advertising for Mental Health Week, and thought, hmmm, you're sending an open message to everyone. Wonder how we celebrate this. Wasn't offended.
Sounds like some are sensitive to the labels, off your rocker, etc. My mom used to call people psycho maniacs, nice, grew up with that. Guess that sort of hardened me, and don't think about what people call me behind my back.
What is the politically correct term to use? I guess unstable person doesn't fill anyone with warm fuzzies.
I personally don't want to be called anything. My dear husband told everyone where we live, when I didn't come out much, and didn't go to the en masse functions, that I was Bipolar and depressed. I can only imagine what they call me now, ha ha, or shall I say I refuse to think about that.
Did confide that situation to an elderly lady that I used to do errands with/for, and she was so incensed that she called my husband to come over to her place and lambasted him. Saying Bipolar is a terrible, serious disease. You shouldn't broadcast that if she doesn't want you to. Good, and Bad. Torn, let everyone know, as it was any of their business, or don't tell anyone at all, hide. Hmmm. Some people now treat me with kid gloves.

Shall I start a poll? Just kidding, done with that.

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   Posted 11/2/2010 9:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,

You are such a kind and caring and good person. I do agree it was in bad taste. But I honestly think she didn't mean to hurt you. If she did, she is a very callous person and I guess the only thing that you can do is over look it. She wouldn't be worth the bother of feeling bad. I hope that she just has bad taste.

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Taygeta
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   Posted 11/2/2010 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,
 
Now that I've gotten over my steam and read the post again, I'm pretty sure it was meant to be cute with no malice behind it, and it was probably sent with the thought you might find it a bit comical.
 
People do that kind of stuff all of the time without thought of how it might be taken.
 
When I hurt my leg and was on crutches at work, I got all kinds of comments about being lame, gimpy, whatever.  In fact, I might be the first to make fun of something like that with myself.  Sometimes, making fun of yourself is a way to deal with the hurt and pain, and it also makes it easier for people who don't know how to react.  If you're a bit jovial about your own problem, there is less confusion on their part as to how to approach you.
 
I know this is a really silly example, but if I had a friend who had no arms, and I needed help with moving something - I could expect him to say something like - I'd give you a hand if I had one . . . and I'd laugh about it because I would know that's a way for him to deal with his disability.  And at some point, I might inadvertently say something like "could you give me a hand with this" and not really be thinking enough to realize.  And he might laugh at that because of my foolishness, knowing I was being a mouth clutz.  But I would never consider sending him a joke that made fun of people who didn't have arms.  There's a line, and you really have to be careful not to cross it.
 
I have found that many folks make jokes about other's problems and disabilities (without ever thinking about the consequences).  I mean, really, not even a second thought behind what comes out of their mouths.  And I've seen people hurt by what's said, and they won't say anything at the time, but I could always tell by their facial expressions or change in demeanor.
 
If this person has shown no malice toward you, then I'd have to say it was a product of "not thinking on her part."  That doesn't make it right - at all - and it is really tasteless under these circumstances.
 
I hope my babbling has helped in some way . . .
 
Scythia      

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   Posted 11/2/2010 11:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks all and I am OK.  Your answers were taken to heart and in the spirit they were intended.
 
I have stepped back and asked myself why I was offended by the email "joke" ?  And the answer was it made me feel sad that others do not understand how we feel.  The joke was totally distasteful to me but it was not the end of the world and
I don't believe my sister-in-law was trying to hurt me but just was not thinking when she included me in the mailing list. 
 
So I will keep doing what makes me feel good about myself and extended a hand to others in need, enjoy my awesome family and thank heaven for friends here in the forum.
 
Gentle Hugs,
Kitt 
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   Posted 11/3/2010 4:23 AM (GMT -6)   
cool kitt. i know it was sent, purely in jest. i do not take things to heart for long, actually i have bigger fish to fry, albeit still very strong on the inept and disatasteful terminologies, so i hope she is now educated!!!!

thx kitt............you are a much loved person here. cheers. jamie.


keep being you, as i me, and everyone themselves, for as ourselves and your sil, we are all unique and varied individuals!!!

peace 2 you and all, jamie :-)
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   Posted 11/3/2010 5:47 AM (GMT -6)   
So, anybody gonna comment on what they would like to be called or how they would like to be referred to.
Because I'm not a bipolar, I have bipolar disorder.
There is no such thing as normal.
Hmm, don't know.

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   Posted 11/3/2010 6:28 AM (GMT -6)   
yeah. i can't define normal. so i never use the word. try very hard to not do!!!

i am jamie. i am a person, and i live with mental illness. and i live with other illnesses.
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   Posted 11/3/2010 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I am myself and a very unique person. I believe  the essence of our true selves is not any fixed label but the capacity to experience. Each person's normal is individual to  them.

Identity labels  are useful, even necessary. They shape the way we act and feel (and the way people act and feel toward us) in every situation But many labels are misleading, and none can fully describe the multifaceted reality that is a human being.  I am a Mother, daughter, wife, nurse, friend, but I am not a disorder or a disease.

Moreover, any external criteria we use to label ourselves -- looks, power, health, relationships, anything -- can disappear in a heartbeat. So really, the only way to avoid a lot of insecurity, fear, and suffering is to learn how to wear our identities lightly and let go of them easily.

Kindly,

Kitt

 
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   Posted 11/3/2010 9:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,

Can you send this in an email to me. Just the part that she sent you. I do know a guy who licked windows and he would get a kick out of this. I know it sounds cold, but if you could forward that to me, I could forward it to him. He wouldn't be offended. I promise.

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   Posted 11/3/2010 10:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,

Sandy sent this to me, so I got it. Didn't even think to copy and paste, where is my brain??? LOL...

Hope that you are having a good day today.

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   Posted 11/3/2010 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Jamie,
 
I agree with you.  There is no definition of normal.  It bugs me when I am compared to normal people.  Just what is normal anyway?
 
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   Posted 11/3/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,
I got to ask did you send it back to her, and just her?
LOL,
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   Posted 11/3/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I really don't think that there is a normal. That is my opinion.

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   Posted 11/3/2010 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Got it Karen................I just saw the messages now.
 
Navy - Naw,  I did not send it back.  I just let it go as I do not want to start a big fued over anything.  smhair

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   Posted 11/4/2010 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Why do people make fun of Mental Health Disorders ? So they don't have to look at themselves so critically.

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   Posted 11/4/2010 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
That is a good one Trying. I think it is ignorance on their part. They don't understand unless they are dealing with it. And I don't think that they realise how sensitive we are about it. But they aren't in our shoes. There will be awareness of this one day. People have to learn. But for now we all have eachother and that helps.

Kitt I hope that things are going well for you today.

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   Posted 11/4/2010 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
i thought i replied to this thread but i guess im out of it and didnt really lol. i find this insensitive but i see this joke a lot and i think someone is just joking around and meant no harm by it. they just dont understand
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