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   Posted 1/29/2011 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Red,
 
I've felt for sometime that I didn't adequately explain to you why I think coffee and chocolate are really very much part of depression, so I've done a little more reading in an effort to give you all that I know regarding those foods and how they affect the feeling tone.
 
1.  Foods that are high in sulfur (thiols) are irritating to the body, and the effects of their ingestion may not be felt for as long as 4 to 7 days after they are ingested.  We must eliminate them for at least one week  after we've had our last chocolate bar or cups of coffee before we will begin to feel better.
 
2.  The symptoms of ingestion of sulfur foods (high in thiols) are the following:
 
    A. tired, icky, depressed feeling starting within a few hours of eating
those foods and lasting 4 to 7 days following ingestion of repeated use of them.
 
     B.  We must go on a 7-day exclusion test of these foods to know if we are beginning to feel better.  Then, pour them on again, and we will be certain as to whether or not these foods are triggers for our depression.
 
     C.  If our health improves after the exclusion test, we will know that we have a sensitivity to the sulfur-component in the foods and
that we must avoid them.  These foods contain free thiol groups that interact and CAUSE EMOTIONAL DEPRESSION.
 
Now, which foods are they?
 
Coffee, Chocolate, Cheese of all sorts, Bakery products containing whey, eggs, or enzymes, Cream, Dairy Products including milk from any animal, Onions, Garlic, Peas, Peanuts, etc.  (And I mean the list goes on and on; for a full run-down on those look at the website Sulfur Foods.com.)
 
The trace mineral molybdenum is helpful in supporting the sulfur pathway which may help us tolerate a little more caffeine than we could without using an adjunct.  We need to  read more about that, hopefully.
 
By the way, I don't manage tea well, either, and generally avoid it.
 
I hope this has more helpful information for you, Red.
 
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   Posted 1/29/2011 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I found out recently that gensing contains sulfur too. My husband had an allergy or cold or something and he read in the book we have (the ultimate healing system) that often sulfur helps so he took some ginseng and all the symptoms went away. Though I am sure that if he had too much that it would be the symptoms as described above. But I guess at times we get low on it and need it.

Very interesting thread It's Genetic. You are so smart. I drink caffiene, but not like I use to. I like a little boost in the morning. But then it bothers my stomache. I cut back one third on the caffienated coffee and it helped my blood pressure go down. I like a little chocolate now and then, but not like I use to on that either. Not only bad for you, but fattening. lol... But they say that dark chocolate has antioxidents in it.

I hope that you are having a good day IG. I hope that you don't mind me posting on Redlightening's thread.

Hugs, Karen
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It's Genetic
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   Posted 1/29/2011 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
No, of course I don't mind your posting on the thread to Red, Karen.
I was just concerned that she might not see it if I posted the data on some other thread that wasn't directed to her so that she'd be sure to get it.

I hope all who have an interest in how diet affects us would read all the material they can find to help alleviate the symptoms of depression--which I could live very well without, thank you!

This has been a good day for me; I hope all of you are having a good one, too.

IG
 
P.S.  Coffee and chocolate will spark the appetite because they act as a stimulant to the central nervous system.   If we're dieting, best to remove them while we're trying to lose weight.

Post Edited (It's Genetic) : 1/29/2011 1:55:32 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/29/2011 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I have noticed if I eat something sweet, it causes me to crave more sweets. Did you ever read the book called "sugar blues"? It is rather interesting in the fact of how refined sugar is really bad for us. I use to have diabetic problems and could only use pear concentrate as a sweetener in stuff like jellies, jams and juices. I did use equal at that time, but not that is bad for us too. I guess going natural is the best way. Even though sugar is natural, it still isn't good for us.

I am having a pretty good day. Though I wish that the sun was out today. At least it isn't all that cold.

Hugs, Karen
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   Posted 1/29/2011 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
My internist seems to think that craving sweets is just a "woman thing", as she calls it. I know that it creates cravings in me and so do coffee and tea. I lost weight eliminating coffee and tea and could probably lose a great deal more if I removed sugar entirely. It's just so hard to do that altogether.

IG
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