GOODY BYE PRISTIQ, HELLO VITAMINS!

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cancan81
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   Posted 10/25/2011 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I am on my 5th day of weaning myself off of Pristiq solely because it has made me become more irritable, more irrational, and more overly uncontrollably emotional. Im not a antidepressant virgin so I have been on different type of medications and have weaned myself off them successfully. Before taking Pristiq, I was on Cymbalta in which I did not suffer from the horrible side effects that I have read that most people have encountered. However, I am already started to experience brian zaps, dizziness, and fatigue. In the past I have taking a regimen of different kind of vitamins that seemed to lessen the side effects of weaning off of the medications before. However, I do not remember all in which I used to take. If any one has any suggestions on different kinds of vitamins to take during my weaning off process, it would be greatly appreciated.

Currently, I am down to 1/2 of a tablet of 50mg of Pristiq.

Thanks!

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   Posted 10/25/2011 3:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you suppose to break those tablets? Is your doctor helping you with this? I thought that pristiq was one of those wierd ones that you aren't suppose to break. I take it. I take 100mg along with abilify. They work good together for me. I am sorry that it didn't work for you.

I am not sure of the vitamins that you should be taking. Maybe somebody else is. Ask your doctor or the pharmacist. Hopefully somebody here will know. I just hope that your doctor knows what you are doing. And I hope it is safe to cut the tablets.

Take care,

Hugs, Karen
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   Posted 10/25/2011 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Karen is right about this, Cancan81, in my view. Your doctor needs to know partly because one of the B vitamins in the series (which is excellent for nervous system strength) needs to be tested in you before you begin a regimen of the Bvitamins. It's folate.

Ask him about the test to determine if you have a missing enzyme in
your digestive system that prevents you from converting Folic Acid, Vitamin B9, into folate for use in the brain. He will probably know that you can't determine that by blood tests, because the brain level of B9
can be low while the blood system maintains a steady supply. You need genetic testing for that enzyme.

70% of depressed people are low in folate. Some of them may be missing that enzyme.

Otherwise, unless you do not manufacture enough hydrochloric acid
to utilize B12 from meats, you would probably be okay to take
a high-quality multiple vitamin. (If you lack sufficient hydrychloric acid,
you could always take a Betaine hydrochloride supplement to provide
adequate B12 in your system.) Be sure to ask your pharmacist about
which high-quality vitamin he recommends.

I don't know that I would rely solely on vitamins for stability in depression. I would be more inclined to take a smaller dosage of medication (with my doctor's approval) and add the appropriate vitamins to boost the system's strength.

Diet also plays a significant role in your well-being. I've posted about this before, and it's somewhere on a page way back in the Depression Forum called something like "This is the Information You Regested on Diet Recommendations".  Please see the website called western diet promotes depression in women.com

I wish you real success with your efforts; you are to be admired for wanting to take control of your illness in a very positive way.

I.G.

Post Edited (It's Genetic) : 10/25/2011 4:25:29 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/25/2011 10:43 PM (GMT -6)   
my dr is checking my folate. noticed in the path request. now i know why. cheers, jamie.
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cancan81
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   Posted 10/26/2011 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you both Karen and Jamiee for your replies! However, I am a RN and would never do any thing without the supervision of my doctor. So I am well aware of the benefits and risk factors of doing all the above. However, I have discussed coming off the medication before and he is fully aware. Also, any medication that makes me more emotional, more irrational, more tearful then off of it isn't exactly the medication relationship I had attended. Pristiq IS NOT a medication they recommend you titrating down n half, HOWEVER, there is not a lower dose other then 50mg.

I have read up on several reviews and have spoke to other doctors that is the only recommendation they can offer, is to break the dose in half, weaning slowly for a couple of weeks and then go every other day for 2 more weeks...and so on, so forth. It's a very lengthy process, but I'm hoping during this process I will learn other "healthy" ways of coping and controlling my emotions in a more natural, holistic form. I only started back on medication close to a year ago, due to some changes in my life. In the past, I have been off medication and have function very well and happily. As for the vitamins, I am not treating my depression solely on vitamins, I was asking what vitamins I could take while weaning off that would diminish the side effects of the withdrawal symptoms you have while coming down. Every woman should take Folic Acid in my opinion due to our bodies and hormone regulations...so I will be making a trip to Walgreens this afternoon.

Thank you for your responses.

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   Posted 10/26/2011 11:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I find vitamin D3 helps me a lot with how I feel and my moods. That might help you if you aren't already taking it.

Have you thought about 5htp or st. johnswort? Thaqt might be an option for you.

Best wishes on your quest...

Hugs, Karen
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cancan81
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   Posted 10/28/2011 3:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Karen- went and got Vit D3 and Complex Vit B as well. It's my 8th day weaning down and brain zaps aren't as bad, however, still feel nauseated and well it's 4am while I'm writing this so insomnia is flaring up, but it could be due partly that I worked yesterday evening as well.

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   Posted 10/28/2011 4:16 AM (GMT -6)   
jamie here. wishing you all the best with the weaning, sounds as though your getting over the worst of it. i hope your insomnia is only due to working yesterday evening. i am a severe insomniac!!
take care cancan81. with compassion, jamie
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   Posted 10/28/2011 6:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I hope that the D3 helps you. You might need more than me. I take actually 2800 iu a day, 2000 from the D and there is 800 in my calcium. The doc put me on 50,000 iu a week for a month and that seemed to help. This time of year with less sun, it really does help. We have been having nothing but cloudy days and rain for two weeks. Gets to you after awhile.

I hope that you feel better soon.

Take care,

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bayoub2
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   Posted 10/28/2011 6:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Now wait, I am supposed to take madnesium and malic acid for fibro, multi vit cause I eat like poo, calcium and vitd cause I'm an old bad and now VitB complex too Plus all my meds??? Oh, and a HUUUGGGEEE potassium pill. Yikes! Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease-lol

Good luck cancan-anyone who can stop is my hero!!

Maggie
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   Posted 10/28/2011 7:55 AM (GMT -6)   
ditto. jamie. :-)
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Sue123
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   Posted 12/3/2011 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Bravo for trying to taper! Hope you find alternative ways to beat depression, I came off of Pristiq using the tips found on http://www.theroadback.org. An associated site sells supplements, TRB Health. I took the JNK for two months, the BodyCalmSupreme for 3 months and then continued with valerian and passion flower from herbs afterwards. (they make a nice tea with honey before bed). It took a month of no-Pristiq before the teary symptoms ended. I stopped because the Pristiq wasn't helping and am now trying alternatives like NLP, visualization and therapeutic yoga.

With respect to any vitamin deficiencies caused by anti-depressants, most note that the drugs only change your metabolism causing one to be more pre-disposed to diabetes. I personally lost weight and noticed my circulation improve, especially to my feet. I didn't change my diet any to cause the weight loss.

Best of luck!

p.s. please google cutting Pristiq as it is not a good idea! I tapered by skipping one daily dose, then two, etc until I stopped after about 3 weeks. Cutting them may be the reason behind some of the side effects

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   Posted 12/4/2011 1:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Cancan...Wishing you luck on your journey..sounds like you are well on your way. It is great that you are taking over and I also am trying some holistic ways. As far as vitamins I agree with Karen however, you should check with your doctor.

Karen...I have never heard of vitamin d3, I take vitamin d 2000 units in the winter 1000 otherwise. Is it any different?


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   Posted 12/4/2011 1:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Jamiee....I also have insomnia there is nothing more frustrating than tossing and turning. I can only toss and turn so much and then I have to get up. I hope we get some sleep soon....Take care, Jamiee


Bless you, Amy
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   Posted 12/4/2011 6:32 AM (GMT -6)   
yes to that amy!!!!! with healing compassion, jamie
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   Posted 12/4/2011 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Amy,

If on the back of the bottle, it says Cholacalcifloral or something to that order, then it is the right D. It may say D3 on the back too. It really helps. I take 2000 iu a day too.

Hugs, Karen
 
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